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Old June 30th, 2012, 07:26 AM   #61
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So far only Chinese companies which are owned by the Chinese government bought C919.

Maybe some Southeast Asia countries. I forget.
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Old June 30th, 2012, 09:14 AM   #62
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So far only Chinese companies which are owned by the Chinese government bought C919.

Maybe some Southeast Asia countries. I forget.
There's GECAS, the leasing firm of GE.
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Old June 30th, 2012, 09:53 AM   #63
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The current backlog will keep them busy for a LONG time, currently Tianjin's A320 assembly can only deliver 4 frames per month, it'll take years for COMAC to even achieve that.
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Old June 30th, 2012, 10:51 AM   #64
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The current backlog will keep them busy for a LONG time, currently Tianjin's A320 assembly can only deliver 4 frames per month, it'll take years for COMAC to even achieve that.
I think after COMAC completed a series of test flights for C919 by 2014 and awaited for CAAC, FAA and EASA certifications by 2016, they'll gonna start producing the first few batches of planes...
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At the moment I'm skeptical about its 2014 maiden flight plan, however its certification process may be quicker now due to Bombardier's help.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 06:05 AM   #66
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At the moment I'm skeptical about its 2014 maiden flight plan, however its certification process may be quicker now due to Bombardier's help.
Certification for FAA and EASA standards?

And do you see a possibility of a JV between COMAC and Bombardier for future overseas productions of C919/929/939?
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Certification for FAA and EASA standards?

And do you see a possibility of a JV between COMAC and Bombardier for future overseas productions of C919/929/939?
Yes Bombardier will help C919 securing FAA certificate, I don't think they will set up a JV since the C919 will share much commonalities with the C-series, for example the fuselage will have very similar size and the C-series' fuselage will be supplied by AVIC Shengyang Aircraft Corporation.
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Old July 2nd, 2012, 11:28 AM   #68
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Yes Bombardier will help C919 securing FAA certificate, I don't think they will set up a JV since the C919 will share much commonalities with the C-series, for example the fuselage will have very similar size and the C-series' fuselage will be supplied by AVIC Shengyang Aircraft Corporation.
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Old July 9th, 2012, 04:47 AM   #69
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China-made C919 to appear on Farnborough International Airshow 2012
WCARN.com. July 5

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The Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, Ltd. (COMAC) will participate in the Farnborough International Airshow 2012 held during July 9-15, at Farnborough Airport (FAB), UK to showcase its C919 aircraft.
At the Farnborough International Airshow 2010, COMAC displayed models of its indigenous aircraft -- ARJ21 regional jet and C919 commercial narrow-body aircraft -- for the first time.

more: http://www.wcarn.com/cache/news/20/20117.html
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Old July 10th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #70
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The best they can do is bring the fully scale mock up of the forward fuselage as they did in Paris, unless they have finished a full scale mock up already.
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Old July 10th, 2012, 06:30 AM   #71
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COMAC presents C919 & ARJ21 at the 48th Farnborough Airshow
(WCARN.com, July 9)

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Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, Ltd. (COMAC) showcases the models of its large passenger aircraft C919 and ARJ21-700 regional jet at the 48th Farnborough International Airshow running from July 9, 2012 until July 15, 2012.


At the airshow, COMAC demonstrates models of its large passenger aircraft C919 and regional jet ARJ21 at B27, Hall 3, with an area of 200 square meters. A 3-D screen has been installed to present C919's mixed and all-economy cabin layouts, as well as the new regional jet ARJ21's cabin layouts varying from mixed, all-economy, premium economy, administration to business configuration.
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Airshow: COMAC signs pact with British Airways
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British Airways has expanded a pact with the manufacturer of China's planned new jetliner to include the UK carrier's parent, providing a vote of confidence for the program despite speculation that it's slipping behind schedule.

International Consolidated Airlines Group SA signed a memorandum of understanding with Commercial Aircraft of China Ltd., or COMAC, the state enterprise leading the development of the C919 jet, which is being touted as a low-cost rival to established planes made by Airbus and Boeing Co.


British Airways agreed in 2010 to cooperate with COMAC on the C919's development, and the new deal extends that to include the UK carrier's merger partner, Iberia.

more: http://www.wcarn.com/cache/news/20/20179.html
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Old July 10th, 2012, 03:56 PM   #72
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What does this cooperation mean?
Does it mean that BA is going to buy some C919s?
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Old July 10th, 2012, 05:54 PM   #73
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Here are some parts of 2 news articles about the deal that should answer your questions for a bit.
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London (CNS) -- The Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China Ltd. (COMAC) and the International Airlines Group (IAG) signed a Memorandum of Understanding at the Farnborough International Airshow 2012 on Monday local time.

The MoU includes items for cooperative effort: technology and operation requirements, regulations, financing, and client and product services for the former's C919 large passenger aircraft.
http://www.ecns.cn/cns-wire/2012/07-10/19176.shtml
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An IAG spokeswoman said the agreement would enable IAG to have an input on "what customers and airlines want from the new plane".
The company is also expected to consider the C919 as an option when upgrading its fleet in the future.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/10327519
The cooperation is basically IAG/BA giving feedback to Comac about the plane, giving advice on several aspects of the project from a costumers perspective. Since it only has orders from Chinese Airlines and leasing companies it's good to have some feedback from costumers in different markets. Airbus and Boeing don't have to do this like this anymore since they already have a big client base that already give them enough feedback. IAG/BA is not the only airline that has such a deal with Comac, Ryanair also has a similar agreement with them.

IAG has specifically said that this doesn't mean that they will certainly order the plane, but it will be option. This deal will definitely raises the chance that they will choose the C919 at some point in time. It will probably won't be to replace the complete narrowbody fleet, but BA and IB are big enough to have a reasonably sized subfleet where the C919 would fit in perfectly.
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IAG probably wont order it for their main fleet, but maybe for Iberia Express?
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Old July 10th, 2012, 08:48 PM   #75
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Old July 10th, 2012, 10:26 PM   #76
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It's good that COMAC is getting feedback from major international carriers such as BA, domestic carriers simply lack the experience possessed by BA, if they want the C919 to be competitive on the international stage it must be tailored to different carriers' needs.
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Old July 11th, 2012, 11:55 AM   #77
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Wait, Spanish flag carrier Iberia is BA's sister airline right? They're both under IAG.


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COMAC targets next batch of C919 plane orders
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Commercial Aircraft Corp of China Ltd said it is likely to announce new orders in October for its C919 jetliner, the nation's first large passenger plane.
more: http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/busi...t_15569371.htm
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Old July 12th, 2012, 01:52 PM   #78
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China's C919 Aircraft Draws Attention at Farnborough Int'l Airshow 2012
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The Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China, or COMAC showcased its C919 aircraft at the Farnborough International Airshow 2012 - ongoing in Hampshire, UK. The plane is China's first homegrown single-aisle passenger jet.

It brings with it a lot less ... less weight, less air resistance and lower emissions. According to its designers, it will also produce up to 30 fewer decibels of noise, 50 percent less pollution and use 13 percent less fuel compared with its competitors. But it also brings more ... The C919 will be the largest commercial airliner built in China.

Tian Min, Chief Accountant of Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China, said, "It is more user-friendly. The space between the seats is widened. Doors for luggage compartments open downward, which makes it more convenient for passengers to stow their luggage. The windows on the plane are bigger to provide a better view of the scenery outside."
more: http://www.wcarn.com/cache/news/20/20225.html
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Old July 16th, 2012, 06:19 AM   #79
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VSMPO will supply parts for Chinese aircraft
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The VSMPO-AVISMA Corporation, OJSC, and the Chinese company, Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Co. Ltd. (SAMC) have signed a ten-year contract for purchasing of titanium forgings for the COMAC C919 Aviation Program. The contract was signed during the Farnborough International Airshow-2012, which will work till July 15.
more: http://www.wcarn.com/cache/news/20/20321.html



IAG "Carefully Considers" the C919
(WCARN.com/ATW Daily News, July 16)

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The International Airlines Group (IAG) signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with the Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China (COMAC) to "carefully consider" ordering the Chinese-produced C919 at the Farnborough Airshow.

According to the MOU, COMAC will set up a joint working group with IAG to conduct cooperation in the fields of technology and operation requirements, regulations, financing and client and product services for the C919.

According to a COMAC insider, IAG is the first non-Chinese airline to consider ordering the 150-seat aircraft. Last year, Ryanair signed a similar MOU with COMAC.
more: http://www.wcarn.com/cache/news/20/20348.html
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Old July 26th, 2012, 11:00 AM   #80
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MTU Aero raises forecast
(China Daily USA, July 26)

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MTU Aero Engines Holding AG, the German company helping develop engines for China's planned C919 airliner, raised full-year earnings and sales forecasts after beating analysts' first-half revenue estimates.


MTU now expects adjusted operating profit this year of 370 million euros ($446 million) and sales of 3.3 billion euros, the Munich-based company said on Wednesday.
more: http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/busi...t_15620464.htm
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