MOSCOW - VTB Arena (12,500) - Page 7

WFInsider · July 7th, 2011, 02:59 PM

islessmore · July 7th, 2011, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AlekseyVT

Because this stadium (its facade) was include in the list of architectural monuments of Russia. Therefore, it's illegal to demolish old part.

sorry but i confused, where is exactly the monumental part you mention about. i couldnt see anything old in renders. this part you mentioned will be part of facede or will be located in site plan??

AlekseyVT · July 7th, 2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by islessmore

sorry but i confused, where is exactly the monumental part you mention about. i couldnt see anything old in renders. this part you mentioned will be part of facede or will be located in site plan??

Facade of the stadium was built in the Constructivism style, the leading style in the Soviet architecture in 1920s-early 1930s.

Look at this part of the facade:

flavze · July 9th, 2011, 08:32 AM

Looks great, love the concept to.

WFInsider · August 1st, 2011, 07:52 PM

DimitriB · August 2nd, 2011, 07:32 AM

When do they start building this (excellent) complex?

Jim856796 · August 2nd, 2011, 07:41 AM

Never because the complex looks terrible and needs to be redesigned so that the soccer stadium has the same orientation as the old Dynamo Stadium.

ultEmate · August 2nd, 2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim856796

Never because the complex looks terrible and needs to be redesigned so that the soccer stadium has the same orientation as the old Dynamo Stadium.

Lol you mad? The stadium looks great, and they should start earlier next year.

Jim856796 · August 2nd, 2011, 09:11 AM

Only its interior looks good, but the exterior is still terrible. Arena still needs to be in a separate building, and I don't think the plans needs to be finalized yet. Why was the arena proposed inside the stadium, and why is the stadium's orientation wrong? And what's the deal with this blobbish exterior design? Don't construct this building with an ugly exterior in real life, it is an example of terrible design and terrible arrangement within a historic facade. Dynamo Stadium should have been demolished altogether, and this despite its facade being listed as a historical monument.

WFInsider · August 2nd, 2011, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim856796

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Are you 3 years old?

AlekseyVT · August 2nd, 2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim856796

Dynamo Stadium should have been demolished altogether, and this despite its facade being listed as a historical monument.

With same mentality, very soon there will be no any historical monuments in Moscow anymore.

***RMB2007*** · August 2nd, 2011, 07:22 PM

Like many people on here, it's best just to ignore Jim856796. The stadium and arena look amazing. Can't wait to see this thing built.

Laurence2011 · August 2nd, 2011, 08:11 PM

this is a WC venue right? along with spartak stadion and luzhniki?

AlekseyVT · August 2nd, 2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Laurence2011

this is a WC venue right? along with spartak stadion and luzhniki?

This stadium is in the list of potential candidates for WC venue (together with Luzhniki and Spartak Stadiums). Now we can only guess - what and how many Moscow stadiums will be include in the final list.

Jim856796 · August 2nd, 2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WFInsider

Are you 3 years old?

I am 18 years, and I say the stadium/arena building just looks f***ed up.

It's like that story on how some townhouses are built on the field of a former baseball stadium in Japan. And do you know what happened to that stadium and those townhouses? They were torn down for redevelopment. The stadium was in Osaka.

Roltel · August 3rd, 2011, 01:32 AM

Fantastic looking stadium redevelopment. is this definitely going ahead?

And don't worry about Jim - he just has delusions of relevance.

Jim856796 · August 3rd, 2011, 02:32 AM

And why can't the new stadium and arena be built as separate structures on the site? I am just opposing this piece of crap project and may be called a total NIMBY.

Roltel · August 3rd, 2011, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim856796

And why can't the new stadium and arena be built as separate structures on the site? I am just opposing this piece of crap project and may be called a total NIMBY.

You might not like it, but as you can see from responses here, a lot of people absolutely LOVE it. Certainly not a piece of crap IMO - more a breathtakingly stunning refurbishment.

Jim856796 · August 3rd, 2011, 03:19 AM

Why can't they be built as separate structures?

Roltel · August 3rd, 2011, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim856796

Why can't they be built as separate structures?

Why should they be? What are the advantages of doing that?

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August 2nd, 2011, 07:41 AM	#127
Jim856796 The Q&A Guy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Citizen of the World Posts: 6,774 Likes (Received): 12	Never because the complex looks terrible and needs to be redesigned so that the soccer stadium has the same orientation as the old Dynamo Stadium. __________________ I honestly think all development projects must be dashing, sustainable, and futureproof. You support the good projects... and oppose the bad.

August 2nd, 2011, 09:11 AM	#129
Jim856796 The Q&A Guy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Citizen of the World Posts: 6,774 Likes (Received): 12	Only its interior looks good, but the exterior is still terrible. Arena still needs to be in a separate building, and I don't think the plans needs to be finalized yet. Why was the arena proposed inside the stadium, and why is the stadium's orientation wrong? And what's the deal with this blobbish exterior design? Don't construct this building with an ugly exterior in real life, it is an example of terrible design and terrible arrangement within a historic facade. Dynamo Stadium should have been demolished altogether, and this despite its facade being listed as a historical monument. __________________ I honestly think all development projects must be dashing, sustainable, and futureproof. You support the good projects... and oppose the bad. Last edited by Jim856796; August 2nd, 2011 at 09:29 AM.

August 2nd, 2011, 08:11 PM	#133
Laurence2011 ローレンス！ Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Haverhill, England, Wetzlar, Germany Posts: 635 Likes (Received): 6	this is a WC venue right? along with spartak stadion and luzhniki? __________________ Remember always keep the sun in your face and your shadow will always be behind you - Rest in peace Terry Connor 1929-2012

July 9th, 2011, 08:32 AM	#124
flavze Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 36 Likes (Received): 0	Looks great, love the concept to.

August 2nd, 2011, 07:32 AM	#126
DimitriB Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Antwerp Posts: 367 Likes (Received): 12	When do they start building this (excellent) complex?

August 2nd, 2011, 07:22 PM	#132
*RMB2007* Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,511 Likes (Received): 315	Like many people on here, it's best just to ignore Jim856796. The stadium and arena look amazing. Can't wait to see this thing built.

August 3rd, 2011, 01:32 AM	#136
Roltel BANNED Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 50 Likes (Received): 0	Fantastic looking stadium redevelopment. is this definitely going ahead? And don't worry about Jim - he just has delusions of relevance.

August 3rd, 2011, 02:32 AM	#137
Jim856796 The Q&A Guy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Citizen of the World Posts: 6,774 Likes (Received): 12	And why can't the new stadium and arena be built as separate structures on the site? I am just opposing this piece of crap project and may be called a total NIMBY. __________________ I honestly think all development projects must be dashing, sustainable, and futureproof. You support the good projects... and oppose the bad.

August 3rd, 2011, 03:19 AM	#139
Jim856796 The Q&A Guy Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Citizen of the World Posts: 6,774 Likes (Received): 12	Why can't they be built as separate structures? __________________ I honestly think all development projects must be dashing, sustainable, and futureproof. You support the good projects... and oppose the bad.

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