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Old April 16th, 2010, 12:44 AM   #21
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Over 300 flights from Glasgow cancelled today and the airport will stay closed till at least 13:00 tomorrow.

Its going to take along time to clear the backlog from this.

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06:00 KL1470 AMSTERDAM CANCELLED
06:30 BD001 HEATHROW CANCELLED
06:30 EZY6877 ALICANTE CANCELLED
06:30 FR696 PALMA CANCELLED
06:30 FR653 TENERIFE CANCELLED
06:30 TOM1524 PALMA CANCELLED
06:40 FR651 FARO CANCELLED
06:45 BA2953 GATWICK CANCELLED
06:45 BE881 SOUTHAMPTON CANCELLED
06:50 FR404 LONDON STANSTED CANCELLED
06:55 BE1431 CARDIFF CANCELLED
07:00 BA1475 HEATHROW CANCELLED
07:00 BD1292 LEEDS B/FORD CANCELLED
07:00 BE341 MANCHESTER CANCELLED
07:00 BE6820 STORNOWAY CANCELLED
07:00 EZY206 STANSTED CANCELLED
07:00 EZY462 BELFAST INTL CANCELLED
07:00 FR6953 FUERTEVENTURA CANCELLED
07:00 TCX933K HERAKLION DELAYED
07:00 TCX911K TENERIFE CANCELLED
07:00 TS325 TORONTO CANCELLED
07:05 BE781 BIRMINGHAM CANCELLED
07:05 EZY066 LONDON LUTON CANCELLED
07:15 TOM1418 LANZAROTE CANCELLED
07:30 CO016 NEWARK NYC CANCELLED
07:30 FR771 DUBLIN CANCELLED
07:45 BA8723 LONDON CITY CANCELLED
08:00 BE125 BELFAST CITY CANCELLED
08:00 EI3220 DUBLIN CANCELLED
08:00 BE125 BELFAST CITY CANCELLED
08:00 EI3220 DUBLIN CANCELLED
08:10 WW5821 EAST MIDLANDS CANCELLED
08:20 EZY067 LONDON LUTON CANCELLED
08:25 BE126 BELFAST CITY CANCELLED
08:25 EI3221 DUBLIN SCHEDULED
08:25 BE880 SOUTHAMPTON CANCELLED
08:30 BA1472 HEATHROW CANCELLED
08:30 BE6921 ISLAY CANCELLED
08:30 EZY401 BRISTOL CANCELLED
08:35 TCX519K TENERIFE CANCELLED
08:35 WW5822 EAST MIDLANDS CANCELLED
08:45 EZY6883 PARIS CDG CANCELLED
08:45 EZY463 BELFAST INTL CANCELLED
08:50 BE883 SOUTHAMPTON CANCELLED
08:55 BE6843 CAMPBELTOWN CANCELLED
08:55 EZY402 BRISTOL CANCELLED
09:00 CO017 NEWARK NYC CANCELLED
09:00 EZY785 GATWICK CANCELLED
09:00 TCX693K SHARM EL SHEIKH CANCELLED
09:10 BD003 HEATHROW CANCELLED
09:10 EZY6861 MALAGA CANCELLED
09:25 BD1291 LEEDS B/FORD CANCELLED
09:25 EZY786 GATWICK CANCELLED
09:30 BE6821 STORNOWAY CANCELLED
09:35 FR772 DUBLIN CANCELLED
09:35 TOM782 SHARM EL SHEIKH CANCELLED
09:40 FR407 LONDON STANSTED CANCELLED
09:40 BE342 MANCHESTER CANCELLED
09:50 BA1474 HEATHROW CANCELLED
09:55 EZY207 STANSTED CANCELLED
10:00 BA2957 GATWICK CANCELLED
10:00 BE6807 BENBECULA CANCELLED
10:00 FR692 ALICANTE CANCELLED
10:05 FR7892 GOTHENBURG CANCELLED
10:05 BE784 BIRMINGHAM CANCELLED
10:10 BE1432 CARDIFF CANCELLED
10:15 BD1683 COPENHAGEN CANCELLED
10:15 SK9729 COPENHAGEN CANCELLED
10:20 EZY464 BELFAST INTL CANCELLED
10:20 BE6922 ISLAY CANCELLED
10:25 FR691 ALICANTE CANCELLED
10:20 BE882 SOUTHAMPTON CANCELLED
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Old April 16th, 2010, 01:34 AM   #22
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Result: fully booked Eurostar trains and other international trains.

Luckily this doesn't happen very often... Let's just hope this won't last too long.

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Old April 16th, 2010, 03:16 AM   #23
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In the news the said this might last over a year. And a nearby volcano might erupt as well. Fortunaterly there is good train network in Europe.
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Old April 16th, 2010, 03:18 AM   #24
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I was due to fly to Florence tomorrow morning at 7

Looks like the airlines let you change your flight to another day for free, but obviously it's to late to cancel the hotel reservation...so that money would be lost.
Can't you just take the train? Normally airlines pay your train ticket if they can't fly.
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Old April 16th, 2010, 03:29 AM   #25
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Can't you just take the train? Normally airlines pay your train ticket if they can't fly.
That would depend where he is travelling from. If its from another Italian destination on the main land then maybe, otherwise the train is pretty useless.
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Old April 16th, 2010, 03:50 AM   #26
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Can't you just take the train? Normally airlines pay your train ticket if they can't fly.
The fastest train connection from Amsterdam to Florence takes 18! hours and requires 3 train changes in Frankfurt, Zurich and Milan...hardly an option for a short 3 day citytrip.
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Old April 16th, 2010, 04:06 AM   #27
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Old April 16th, 2010, 07:39 AM   #28
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Depending on how far the ash plume spreads throughout Europe, it might interfere with the foreign dignitaries attending the state funeral in Poland this weekend. It's not like Obama has the option of taking the train and an trans-Atlantic crossing by ship hardly seems realistic given the time constraints. What are the options for the various dignitaries if European airspace is still locked down?
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Old April 16th, 2010, 07:44 AM   #29
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Result: fully booked Eurostar trains and other international trains.
But they are on strike....
CDG and ORY are closed at least until 14:00 (CET).

Don't expect to travel by car: due to school holidays, it's one of the busiest week-end of the year.
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Now, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Berlin and Dusseldorf are closed.
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Old April 16th, 2010, 12:22 PM   #31
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Can we confirm the airspace south and south east of europe remains operational...
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Yes, it does. Some countries just don't have ADS-B coverage in RadarVirtuel, so that why they always appear empty. Also only ADS-B enabled aircraft appear on the map, so just a portion of overall traffic, but I reckon a majority of airline traffic.

Here's what's closed. (Note that Z = Zulu = GMT; Maastricht UAC = Maastricht Upper Area Control = airspace over and above 7,500 meters in the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg and North-West Germany)
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Airspaces zero-rated until...
(aerodromes geographically located within these airspaces will be unavailable)
Belgium: 16-1600z
Denmark: 17-0000z
Estonia: 17-0000z
Finland: 17-0000z
France - Reims ACC: 16-1200z
France - Paris ACC: 16-1800z
France - Brest-north sectors: 1200z
Germany - Langen & Dusseldorf: 16-1600z
Germany - Karlsruhe: 16-1200z
Germany - Bremen: 16-1800z
Germany - Munich-north/east: 16-1600z
Germany-Frankfurt Airspace 16-1600z
Maastricht UAC: 16-1800z
Netherlands: 16-1600z
Norway BD limited availabilty/contact FMP for details Poland north: 16-1600z
Poland south: 16-from 0800 to 1600z
Republic of Ireland Shannon 16-0900z
Republic of Ireland Dublin: 16-1000z
Sweden: 16-2359z
-ESOSNK OPEN FROM 1300Z EXCEPT SECTOR ESOS4

United Kingdom excluding scotland : 16-2359z

Airports zero-rated until...
EFHK: 16-1200z
EGJB: 16-1200z
EGJJ: 16-1200z
LFOB: 16-1200z
LFOP: 16-1200z
LFPB: 16-1200z
LFPG: 16-1200z
LFPN: 16-1200z
LFPO: 16-1200z
LFPT: 16-1200z
LFPV: 16-1200z
LFQQ tma: 16-1200z
LFRG tma: 16-1200z
LFRM: 16-0000z
LFRW: 16-0000z
EDDN:16-1000Z-1200Z
EDDC: 16- 1200z
EDDE: 16- 1200z
EDDP: 16- 1200z
EDDM: 17-0000Z
For info, the following significant a/d are unavailable due to surrounding airspace closures.
Please note, this list is not exhaustive.
EDDB: 16-from 0000 to 1800z
EDDH: 16-from 0000 to 1800z
EDDK: 16-from 0000 to 1600z
EDDL: 16-from 0000 to 1600z
EDDT: 16-from 0000 to 1800z
EDDF: 16-from 0600 to 1600z
EPWA: 16-from 0800 to 1600z

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Old April 16th, 2010, 03:07 PM   #34
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There's now a ash cloud layer on RadarVirtuel.
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In the news the said this might last over a year. And a nearby volcano might erupt as well. Fortunaterly there is good train network in Europe.
yes, because all the people taking flights in and out of the UK will fit through the chunnel. The European rail network won't be able to cope with such a huge increase in demand at all.

It's hard to work out what would be more environmentally damaging; the volcano or all the flights.
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Schiphol Amsterdam Airport expects to go open tomorrow 6 am...but it depends how the ash cloud is going to develop...
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I have the latest ash-data here now, made by the Norwegian Met. Service.

Only black ash is actual ash (which will stop air-traffic). Spread out black ash is so thin air traffic might resume.

Yellow and red is ash particles on the ground (air traffic can resume).

Time is GTM-1 (Oslo-Amsterdam-Rome time)

Friday 12.00


Friday 18.00


Saturday 00.00


Saturday 06.00


Saturday 15.00


Saturday 21.00


Sunday 03.00


Sunday 09.00


Sunday 15.00
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As expected, given the forecast, Bucharest FIR will start getting shut down tomorrow morning. Unless the forecast are way off, Sofia, Zagreb, Sarajevo, Milano FIRs and others will follow.
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All flights are grounded as volcanic ash blankets UK


Glasgow International Airport: where rows of check-in desks at Terminal 1 went unstaffed.

The first signs of disruption emerged in the early hours yesterday when ash from Iceland’s Eyjafjallajokull volcano began to move towards the north of Scotland.

Soon, officials from airports across the country were being woken from their beds as crisis management teams prepared to react to the unprecedented decision to close the UK’s airspace.

Shortly after 4am, the three main airports in Scotland were closed and by mid-morning the sky above Britain had been turned into a no-fly zone.

At Glasgow International Airport, rows of check-in desks went unstaffed and the departure lounge left deserted.

Alison Curry, from Edinburgh, had been due to travel to from Glasgow to Crete to meet friends and enjoy a holiday in the sun with her husband.

The couple had arrived at 5am, only to be told to return home as no planes were boarding. But when they arrived back in Edinburgh, they phoned their tour operator and were told that people were still being checked in, so they returned to the airport, where they were told there were no flights leaving. Mrs Curry said: “We are just going to book into a hotel in Glasgow as we can’t face going back to Edinburgh again. Hopefully it’s sorted soon. We are shattered.”

Christine Campbell, 55, from Garelochhead, Argyll, who works at Faslane naval base, got to the airport at 5.30am for a flight at 6.45am in order to travel to La Rochelle in France for her son’s wedding.

Ms Campbell, who was planning to try to get a train to London and then travel to France by Eurostar, said: “When we arrived we were told there were no flights going out today and to go home. But I wanted to come and wait anyway because I didn’t want to miss anything. I’m really disappointed and upset because I’ve been looking forward to this wedding for two years and at the last minute there’s this hiccup.”

Isla Bisset, 22, had travelled from Thurso on Wednesday and stayed in a hotel overnight before her flight to Egypt yesterday morning. Ms Bisset, who is a member of cabin crew, returned to a hotel again for another night after her flight was cancelled. “It had to happen the day I was going on holiday,” she said. “A volcano erupted in Iceland and we are not flying out of Glasgow. It is really odd.”

Bode Banjoko, a student at Dundee University, was scheduled to fly home to New York to see his family. The 30-year-old, who is studying oil and gas management, said: “I had to take time off school and I have important family business to take care of, so my plans have really been disrup-ted. I’m just stuck now and trying to work out what to do next.”

On motorways near the airport, signs flashed to alert drivers of the closures while it was standing room only on cross-border trains and both Stagecoach and Virgin Trains laid on extra services to cope with the upsurge in demand, including a special late evening rail service from Glasgow Central station to London Euston.

Just as Glasgow International Airport emptied of passengers who had been due to travel, one flight landed. The Air Transat plane left Toronto at 5am UK time and touched down at 11am in “very exceptional circumstances”.

The flight was granted permission to land by air traffic controllers at Glasgow after arriving via Irish airspace.

It is understood that the aircraft travelled through transatlantic airspace from Canada before restrictions were imposed. It then entered Irish airspace and descended below the altitude which is controlled by the air traffic control service. A spokesman for Glasgow International Airport said: “The aircraft landed in very exceptional circumstances for reasons of passenger safety.”

Holidaymakers on the flight said they were stunned when they learned they were on the only plane arriving in Scotland, particularly because they could not see anything unusual from the windows of the plane.

Kaley Maxwell, 23, thought it was a joke when she discovered what had happened. “The weirdest part is that we were so completely oblivious to it all,” she said. “I just feel lucky to have got here. It could have taken us a couple of days to get back.”

Robert Russell, 53, from the south side of Glasgow, added: “Not a word was mentioned to us on the flight. We thought everything was normal.”

As airports counted the cost of the closure, aviation experts praised the decision by air traffic controllers to effect the biggest closure of UK airspace since the Second World War.

Although unprecedented in the UK, the action mirrors the concerns of aviation authorities around the world who regard the dangers posed by volcanic glass as one of the biggest threats to passenger safety that nature can throw up.

The tiny shards of glass thrown up by volcanic eruptions can reduce visibility for pilots, causing abrasions on the windows of the cockpit and clog up jet engines, causing them to fail.

Jim Ferguson, an aviation writer based in Aberdeen, said air traffic controllers had responded appropriately to a serious safety threat. “You cannot take the chance of losing an aircraft,” he said. “In 1982, a cloud of volcanic ash turned a British Airways Boeing 747 into the world’s biggest gl ider. It’s a miracle that there weren’t 200 deaths.”

Dr David Rothery, from the Department of Earth and Environmental Sciences at the Open University, said: “This is not a dense cloud, and is unlikely to be noticed by people on the ground. However, air traffic restrictions have very properly been applied. If volcanic ash particles are ingested into a jet engine, they accumulate and clog the engines with molten glass.

“In 1982, British Airways and Singapore Airways jumbo jets lost all their engines when they flew into an ash cloud over Indonesia, and a KLM flight had a similar experience in 1989 over Alaska. On each occasion, the plane fell to within a few thousand feet of the ground before it was possible to restart the engines.”

As a result of these experiences emergency procedure manuals for pilots were changed, said Dr Rothery. “Previously, when engines began to fail the standard practice had been to increase power,” he said. “This just makes the ash problem worse. Nowadays, a pilot will throttle back and lose height so as to drop below the ash cloud as soon as possible.The inrush of cold, clean air is usually enough to shatter the glass and unclog the engines. Even so, the forward windows may have become so badly abraded by ash that they are useless, and the plane has to land on instruments.”

Meanwhile, one airline was taking off and landing normally. The seaplane that flies between Glasgow city centre and Oban ran its usual four flights and will be in operation today, because it does not fly at a high enough altitude to be affected by the dust clouds. We were able to put on four flights yesterday without any trouble at all,” said Captain David West.


The Impact
Glasgow International Airport was due to handle 320 flights and 28,300 passengers yesterday, but all services were cancelled.

Glasgow Prestwick Airport had to cancel all flights in and out yesterday –about 100 in total.
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Both Glasgow Airports are starting to re-open now and as a result, allot of London bound traffic from the USA and Canada will be arriving in Glasgow tonight.

At the moment an extra 12 flights are bound for Glasgow, most from New York, others from Los Angeles, San Francisco and Icelandair's Reykjavik to London Heathrow and Manchester flights will both operate to Glasgow tonight, alongside Icelandair's scheduled Reykjavik to Glasgow flight.
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