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Old April 18th, 2010, 08:43 PM   #81
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Jet2 are now bussing passengers from Spain to the United Kingdom. I'm surprised Thomas Cook and Thomson Airways are not doing the same.

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Old April 18th, 2010, 08:52 PM   #82
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British Airways have a Boeing 747-400 in the air over the UK right now. The aircraft, G-CIVC, will fly at 30,000ft for 2.5 hours before landing at Cardiff Airport in Wales where maintenance checks will be carried out.
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Old April 18th, 2010, 08:54 PM   #83
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LONDON: British Airways plans a test flight to gauge the impact of the volcanic ash cloud on flight safety.

The airline says the Sunday night flight will leave London's Heathrow Airport before traveling over the Atlantic and then returning to a maintenance base in Wales to check for damage.

It is in advance of a videoconference set for Monday by European transport officials to discuss the crisis caused by the spreading ash cloud.

British officials said Sunday that UK airspace would be closed until at least 7 a.m. London time (2 a.m. EDT) Monday.

Most British airlines including budget carriers have canceled flights scheduled for Monday.

British transport officials say they are urgently trying to find safe paths that could allow some flights to resume.
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Old April 18th, 2010, 10:29 PM   #84
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2 KLM Cargo Boeing 747s left Schiphol for the UAE and Bangkok around 8 PM local time, I guess they will go ahead with more flights tomorrow if these 2 arrive safely.
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Old April 18th, 2010, 10:40 PM   #85
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2 KLM Cargo Boeing 747s left Schiphol for the UAE and Bangkok around 8 PM local time, I guess they will go ahead with more flights tomorrow if these 2 arrive safely.
So they are sending some planes to see if the path is safe or not. Isn't that the same as gambling, gambling with safety? Just after the eruption when the first airports was closed they made it perfectly clear they don't gamble with safety, and won't fly again until they are 100% sure it is 100% safe to fly.
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Old April 18th, 2010, 10:43 PM   #86
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Dutch carrier KLM has dispatched three cargo flights, two to Sharjah and one to Bangkok. The intention is to test on an actual route the risk to aircraft operating in European airspace.

The move comes after Lufthansa, KLM and British Airways have all carried out test flights throughout the day to examine whether their aircraft engines show signs of damage from flying in the ash cloud from the Eyjafjallajokull volcano. Both KLM and Lufthansa have so far stated that these flights showed no cause for concern.

Pressure has been mounting through the day from the airline industry for the EU authorities to reassess the danger of flying in volcanic ash, which they say are overly strict in comparison to other areas of the world where these conditions would not be an issue and which aircraft routinely operate in. Should the freight flights prove to have no problems it will be an extra argument for the airlines to resume operations.

However, there is still no guarantee that passenger flights will be allowed to operate in the near future, and governments are now examining how to bring citizens home from around the world, with the British examining the possibility of using the Royal Navy to ferry people from Spain or France.
http://www.handyshippingguide.com/sh...st-safety_1594
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:13 AM   #87
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Eurocontrol lifts aviation ban; 50% of flights to resume

Aviation safety authorities in Europe have lifted bans on flying as fears of the effects of volcanic ash clouds dissipate.

An urgent meeting of Eurocontrol, the European air safety body, has just agreed to lift restrictions in areas where the ash cloud is having no effects.

"The forecast is that there will be half of flights possibly operating tomorrow [Monday],” Spain's secretary of state for EU affairs Diego Lopez Garrido told reporters after the meeting.

The decision comes after EU presidency country Spain pushed for a rapid re-opening of air routes where there is no danger.

Spain reopened all its 17 airports that were temporarily closed after the ash cloud moved away. By contrast, most of Europe remained a virtual no-fly zone, with about 30 countries closing or restricting airspace.

Spanish Transport Minister Jose Blanco has offered all airlines use of its airports for stopovers in Europe.

"Spain is offering the use of some Spanish airports as a intercontinental platform," he said, adding that flights from other continents could land in Spain from where passengers could make their way to other destinations in Europe by road or rail.

Airlines that have lost hundreds of millions of dollars by the grounding say test flights over the weekend showed no problems.

The suspension of most flights in northern Europe have affected some six million travellers around the world and brought chaos to over-crowded ground transport.

It also stopped air cargo operations, with a major impact on perishables such as fruit, vegeatables and flowers.

EU Transport Commissioner Siim Kallas said after the Eurocontrol meeting he hoped that 50% of European airspace would be risk free on Monday.

He said the current situation was "not sustainable" and European authorities were working to find a solution that did not compromise safety.

"We cannot wait until the ash flows just disappear," he said.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 03:30 AM   #88
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelin...ion/index.html

Ash cloud may be spreading to Newfoundland.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 03:44 AM   #89
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Just think of how much money is being lost everyday.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 08:20 AM   #90
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Here in Milan the airports opened 20 minutes ago. The first flights are running.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 11:38 AM   #91
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Italian airspace been closed again at 9.00am local time untill 8.00am local time tomorrow Tuesday 20th.
So planes could fly for just two hours.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 12:08 PM   #92
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Airspace Status Update from Eurocontrol

Here's the situation of European airspace now. As you can see some sectors have been opened. In fact, Scandinavia looks pretty good atm, Poland's clear, Southern France more open than yesterday, the Balkans are ok, part of Vienna FIR's open and sector MOPUG, in the West of Romania (Bucharest FIR) is open.



And here's the anticipated situation 4 hours from now.


Note: these maps come from the ATFCM Network Situation display that normally display delays in each sector of airspace, but I asked Eurocontrol and they indeed use it to display closed airspace now, since it's an exceptional situation. After the crisis will be over, they'll return to simply displaying delays.

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Old April 19th, 2010, 01:48 PM   #93
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Just think of how much money is being lost everyday.
Think about how much CO2 was saved.

Volcano makes only 15,000 t CO2 per day.
European planes makes 350,000 t CO2 per day.

All european railways earn now extra money.

We could have already european high speed railway network for speed 320 - 350 km/h We have to bulid it. Germany have know-how about Maglev 500 km/h+ technology and we cold have rail travel as fast as plane travel.
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Old April 19th, 2010, 02:44 PM   #94
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New reports shows that some engines are indeed damaged due to the ash...

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NATO: F-16 fighters damaged by volcanic ash (Associated Press) http://bit.ly/cD6cFS
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Official said NATO plane damage is "very serious matter", "airspace closed for a reason" http://cot.ag/bKo4nW
Meanwhile the Volcano has been very quiet last hours with almost no new ash.


source

But underground activity around it and around Katla is increasing:


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Old April 19th, 2010, 05:22 PM   #95
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Well, we all knew what volcanic ash can do in 1982. It's not a matter of whether the science is doubtful, but whether the airlines can accept the risk and still send planes into the air.
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FACTBOX-Industry impact on day 5 of volcano disruption
19 April 2010
Reuters

Airline industry group IATA called for steps to reopen European airspace shut down by a volcanic ash cloud as the disruption entered a fifth day..

Below are some of the effects on industries ranging from fish through car rental to electronics.

FISH/GROCERIES/RESTAURANTS

The world's largest fish farmer, Norway's Marine Harvest, said it would reduce salmon harvest volumes from Monday and that salmon exports to Asia and North America had been hit. Iceland's trade council said some fresh fish supplies were being fed into frozen fish supplies but most of Iceland's fish exports are sea-based and so unaffected.

Peter Grundhoefer, a top fruit and vegetables wholesaler in Frankfurt, said: "This affects all of us in the fruits business. We will lack beans and chillies from Egypt and fresh herbs from Israel ... (and) exotic fruits like mango, kumquats and physalis once stocks have been used up in the next one or two days."

Thomas Kosmidis, a manager at Frankfurt fish and delicacy restaurant supplier Venos, said: "We are running short of tuna from the Indian Ocean, Victoria perch from Africa, basil from Cyprus and other fresh herbs from Israel, lobster from Canada and green asparagus from California."

Germany's Deutsche See, which says it is the country's biggest seller of fish and seafood, said there was no bottleneck in fish supplies.

"Fish comes to Bremerhaven mostly by ship and truck and is then transported to our 23 Deutsche See sites within Germany by truck. Only small amounts of mostly exotic fish and seafood is imported by plane."

Barbara Hennings, who works at Frankfurt sushi restaurant Iroha, said exotic vegetables were a bigger problem than fish.

"So far we're not experiencing any supply bottlenecks and we're not having to take dishes off the menu." She said tuna supplies came frozen once a month from Spain so there was no impact there. "But we import several vegetables from Japan, such as shiitake mushrooms, and we also get our yellowfish from Japan. Here we have some problems...but the majority of our fish we get from within Europe via road."

Kenya's horticulture industry is losing $3 million a day and it will take several weeks to recover even if flights resume now, its association of exporters said.

Colruyt, the Belgian discount supermarket chain, said sales of cut flowers such as roses from Kenya and fresh fish from Iceland came to a standstill on Saturday.

LOGISTICS

Dutch mail group TNT said it had switched to road transport in Europe and was incurring higher costs.

"TNT's air network is mainly a European network. Within Europe we have a very strong road network that covers 39 countries, which means for most of the freight we have been able to move it by truck," said spokesman Cyrille Gibot.

Anita Gupta, Asia Pacific spokeswoman for rival DHL in Singapore, said the group had "increased its trucking capacity to minimize delays for shipments within Europe. A three- to five-day delay is expected for shipments moving between Europe and the rest of the world."

TELECONFERENCING

Cisco Systems Inc said companies were turning to videoconferencing to connect executives stranded by the flight ban in parts of Europe.

"The only evidence is anecdotal, but you will not get a demo room in any of the Cisco facilities," said Fredrik Halvorsen, former CEO of Tandberg and head of the group's TelePresence Technology Group. "We have seen a huge spike in usage."

HOTELS/TOURISM/CAR RENTAL

"Many hotels have been booked out since Friday, said Petra Winter, a spokeswoman for the tourism office in Frankfurt, Germany. Of 140 hotels with a total of over 34,000 beds in Frankfurt, only 20 still have vacancies.

Car rental companies have been hit by a surge in demand as travellers try to find substitutes for flights.

"We are buying new cars for this" by taking on sooner than planned cars that the company has already agreed to buy, a spokeswoman for Europcar in Hamburg said.

Rival Sixt is keeping cars in its fleet for more than the usual six months and recovering vehicles that have already been moved to used-car dealerships.

ELECTRONICS

Japans's Fujitsu Ltd said its notebook PC shipments to Europe have been halted temporarily due to disruptions in European air traffic. It said there was enough inventory in the region to ensure no earnings impact at the moment. Sony Corp, Sharp Corp, Hitachi Ltd and Panasonic Corp said they were experiencing no impact.

In Seoul, Kim Seong-bong, market analyst at Samsung Securities, said: "If the stoppage of flight services in Europe ...lasts more than a couple of weeks, it will be negative to technology exporters."

PHARMACEUTICALS

Officials said thanks to buffer stocks meant there should not be any immediate drug supply problems.

"We're comfortable that there is no threat to the supply of medicines to patients at this point in time," said Sarah Lindgreen, a spokeswoman for Anglo-Swedish group AstraZeneca.

AIRLINES/AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL

Giovanni Bisignani, head of the International Air Transport Association (IATA) airline industry body, estimated airline revenue losses were now reaching $250 million a day, up from an estimate of $200 million on Friday.

IATA said the economic impact on airlines would be greater than after the 2001 Sept. 11 attacks.

The global Civil Air Navigation Services Organisation (CANSO) said the air traffic control sector was losing up to 25 million euros ($35 million) a day due to the closure of European airspace and warned of a significant impact on future investment decisions.

Some airlines in Europe are not going to be in business in the next week or two due to the volcanic ash cloud that has affected European air travel, the Association of European Airlines said.

British airlines and travel companies are losing tens of millions of pounds a day from Europe's airspace paralysis, increasing the pressure on officials to give the all-clear for planes to fly again.
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ASH ALERT - Glasgow flights to resume

Fight restrictions due to volcanic ash will be lifted in the morning (Tuesday) from Glasgow airports.

Services will be able to operate south to a line between Teesside and Blackpool from 07.00.

The instruction came from Natioanl Air Traffic Services, which said the Icelandic eruption had reduced with the volcano not emitting ash to altitudes that will affect the UK.

"Assuming there are no further sifnificant ash emissions we are now looking at a continuously improving situation," NATS said.

It added that while there was a changing situation, the latest Met Office advice is that the contampination area will continue to move south.

This gives the possibility that airspace restrictions above England and Wales - including the London area - maybe lifted later tomorrow, NATS added.

"It is now for airports and airlines to decide how best to utilise this opportunity," NATS said. "Passengers should contact their airlines to find out how this will affect their travel plans."

A further NATS update is due to be given at 21.00 tonight.
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I hope any residual ash won't screw up airplane engines in the long run. This ash cloud seems to have caused a serious mess.
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Eurocontrol Press Release

Revised approach to air traffic affected by the volcanic ash cloud

Brussels, Belgium – EUROCONTROL hosted a telephone conference earlier today between the European Commission, several European States, Air Navigation Service Providers and technical experts.

The conference concluded that, while the initial reaction by the States was prudent and reduced risk to an absolute minimum, it was now time to move towards a harmonized European approach (set out below) that permitted flights – but only where safety was not compromised.

This conclusion was submitted to the meeting of European Transport Ministers this afternoon and was adopted.

Accordingly a limited “No-fly zone” will be established by the States concerned, based on forecasts from the VAAC. EUROCONTROL will provide the data and the forecast to States every 6 hours.

Aircraft Operators will be permitted to operate outside this zone. In their decision as to whether to fly, they will be supported by shared data including advice from the scientific community (meteo, volcanic ash proliferation etc.) – including safety assessments supported by tests
under the oversight of the competent Safety Authorities.


Member States have been asked to formally confirm their agreement. Meanwhile EUROCONTROL will start the provisional application of this approach.

In addition the ICAO European and North Atlantic Office are organising a meeting to consider the effects on the North Atlantic Region.

These actions will be implemented as soon as possible and, in any case, by 06:00 UTC tomorrow morning.

The conference also concluded that, in time, it should be possible to move towards an approach in which full discretion is given to Aircraft Operators.

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