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Old April 19th, 2010, 09:38 PM   #101
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It's a Dornier 228 of the Dutch Coast Guard. Btw, KLM started service between AMS and JFK, DXB and PVG; aircraft already departed.


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Old April 19th, 2010, 11:39 PM   #102
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Despite Glasgow being open from 0700 (UK time) tomorrow morning, most flights are still cancelled. The following appear to be the only flights operating tomorrow morning; everything else is listed as cancelled.


07:00 BE6820 STORNOWAY
07:50 W6415 WARSAW
08:00 EI3220 DUBLIN
08:15W6416 WARSAW
08:20 BE782 BIRMINGHAM
08:25 BE880 SOUTHAMPTON
08:25 EI3221 DUBLIN
08:30 BE6921 ISLAY
08:55 BE6843 CAMPBELTOWN
09:15 BA296 CHICAGO
09:00 EZY785 GATWICK
10:15 BA212 BOSTON
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Old April 20th, 2010, 12:30 AM   #103
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Backlog clearing likely to anger some stranded passengers

As airlines announces their operations resume, the question about how to deal with stranded passengers remain. Unlike more regular disruptive catastrophes like terrorism, political unrest or so - all causing significant flight disruption -, the Icelandic volcano eruption will not induce much travel planning change. Everything is pretty normal on the ground, be it for business, leisure or family visits.

The usual practice of clearing such air passengers backlog is:

1. Board as many passengers as possible in their original flights. If operations are fully resumed Wednesday, passengers with tickets for Wednesday have nothing much above the usual to worry about.

2. Board passengers which are away from home, and/or in the middle of a connection trip that got disrupted.

3. Board passengers stranded in their origin points, giving priority to critical ones like unaccompanied minors.

This industry policy make sense, practically and financially: it is better not to increase the number of disrupted journeys. In addition, while passengers stranded by a volcano are not entitled to additional compensation for the eruption is an Act of God, bumping out regular passengers scheduled after operations are normal to make room for stranded ones would entitle the formers to receive hefty compensation.

I'm just wondering that we are going to see some particularly gruesome and complaints over the next days, like families claiming that is unjust passengers scheduled to flight Apr. 22th are taking off and they are being left without assistance on London for their 12th consecutive day and so on. I do think some full service airlines will offer buyouts for some regular scheduled passengers so they can accommodate more stranded passengers more quickly. And I read in a somehow influential blog in my country that "EU should step in and order airlines not to transport anyone who is in the comfort of his home and city before stranded passengers are taken to their destinations"
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Old April 20th, 2010, 04:18 AM   #104
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Ash crisis now worse than 9/11 - airlines
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THE global air travel industry is losing 200 million euros ($292 million) a day because of the volcanic ash cloud covering Europe and says the crisis is now "greater than September 11".

Qantas hasn't been spared from the economic pain, revealing it was losing $1.5 million a day due to the Europe travel ban.

The airline estimated that more than 12,500 of its customers had been affected so far and it had accommodated more than 2000 passengers in hotels across the world. It has cancelled all flights to Europe until at least noon tomorrow.

The eruption of the Eyjafjoell volcano last Wednesday has stranded millions of air travellers across the world, with the enormous shroud of fine mineral dust particles now stretching from the Arctic Circle to the French Mediterranean coast, and from Spain into Russia.

The peak body of the airline industry is now urging governments to reopen routes through the volcanic ash cloud.
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Old April 20th, 2010, 04:34 AM   #105
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Well this is different! Shame the vast majority of flights are still cancelled.

07:00 BE6820 STORNOWAY ON TIME
07:50 W6415 WARSAW ON TIME
08:00 EI3220 DUBLIN ON TIME
08:15W6416 WARSAW ON TIME
08:20 BE782 BIRMINGHAM ON TIME
08:25 BE880 SOUTHAMPTON ON TIME
08:25 EI3221 DUBLIN ON TIME
08:30 BE6921 ISLAY ON TIME
08:55 BE6843 CAMPBELTOWN ON TIME
09:15 BA296 CHICAGO ON TIME
09:00 EZY785 GATWICK ON TIME
09:35 TOM129 BARBADOS ON TIME
10:15 BA212 BOSTON ON TIME
10:50 BE6811 ISLE OF MAN ON TIME
11:00 BE6853 TIREE ON TIME
11:00 BE127 BELFAST CITY ON TIME
11:05 FI430 REYKJAVIK ON TIME
11:25 BE128 BELFAST CITY ON TIME
11:35 EI3223 DUBLIN ON TIME
11:45 BE6916 KIRKWALL ON TIME
12:05 FI431 REYKJAVIK ON TIME
12:20 BE6915 KIRKWALL ON TIME
12:25 BE6808 BENBECULA ON TIME
14:10 BE6826 STORNOWAY ON TIME
13:00 BE6812 ISLE OF MAN ON TIME
13:00 BE6854 TIREE ON TIME
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Old April 20th, 2010, 11:42 PM   #106
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All UK airspace and airports are re-opening at 10pm (UK time tonight), about 15 minutes from now.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 04:01 AM   #107
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Let's keep our fingers crossed that Katla doesn't erupt now.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 12:01 PM   #108
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The skies over Grenoble, France seems quite busy at the moment
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Old April 21st, 2010, 06:02 PM   #109
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It’s so good to be home
21 April 2010


Virgin Atlantic Air hostess Marina Lower greets daughter Cadey at Glasgow International Airport.


John and Fiona Ross from Clarkston are greeted by sons Fraser, left, and Graeme.


Hannah Black from Gatehead, near Kilmarnock, is greated by father Ross at Glasgow International Airport on Tuesday night.


There were cheers of joy as a planeload of stranded passengers touched down at Glasgow International Airport today as flight restrictions were lifted.

Families enjoyed an emotional reunion with hugs and tears when they saw loved ones coming through the international arrival doors.

It wasn’t just passengers who were relieved to be home after volcanic ash fears eased.

Virgin Atlantic air steward Marina Lower, 28, was reunited with daughters Cadey, 2, and Kendra, 1. She had been without them for more than a week.

She said: “It’s just great to see them.”

Slowly but surely it was almost business as usual at Glasgow International Airport opened for its first full day since the volcanic ash cloud descen*ded over UK airspace almost a week ago.

Families on the 6.55am Virgin Atlantic flight from Orlando, Florida, were just over an hour delayed, but it had taken them several days to get home.

Mum and daughter Sharon and Monica Kelly received a big hug from sister Elaine who was anxiously awaiting their arrival back in the UK.

Sharon, 35, from Mount Vernon, was delighted to be back home.

She and daughter Monica had enjoyed a Disney holiday and even swam with dolphins.

However when news broke of the travel disruption their holiday came to an abrupt end.

Sharon said: “We were due to fly home last Friday. We were actually on the plane and taken off it again.

“We might still have been away but it didn’t feel like a holiday when we heard about the ash cloud. We are just glad to be back.”

Mount Vernon Primary seven pupil Monica came home clutching a new friend cuddly dolphin Akai.

The 11-year-old said: “I have missed a couple of days of school but I am not that bothered.”

Mum-of-three Sharon McNiven, 37, from East Kilbride, burst into tears with relief at being home.

She said: “It has been a nightmare. I hate to think what we have had to shell out in extra hotel nights and car hire. It is a relief to be home now.”

Today check-in desks had queues – albeit just a handful of them – as passengers began arriving again for departing flights.

EasyJet flights for Alicante, Stansted and Belfast took off earlier this morning with several others scheduled throughout the day.

BMI is expected to resume its Glasgow operation around lunchtime with British Airways domestic flights scheduled to start late afternoon.

Easter holidaymakers were due to fly home last weekend with Virgin, but they were not brought home until this morning.

The planeload of 450 was the first of two expected and travellers were just happy to be home.

Another Virgin Atlantic flight was expected to come into Glasgow tomorrow and three rescue flights brought passengers into Glasgow overnight from Arrecife, Heraklion, and Sharm el Sheik.

An Emirates flight from Dubai was expected at 1pm today.

Amanda McMillan, managing director of Glasgow International Airport, said: “I think this is a sign we are getting back to normal. Flights are moving and within 24 hours I think we will see a big difference.”

Flights began landing in Scots airports late last night for the first time in five days following the lifting of restrictions caused by a volcanic ash cloud.

British airspace was reopened from 10pm last night, paving the way for airlines to take to the skies again and to start to bring home the thousands stranded abroad.

Passengers arriving in Glasgow International Airport from Crete at 11.30pm last night told how the pilot tried to resassure more than 200 passengers on board that it was safe to fly.

And the crew got a round of applause from the relieved passengers when the plane landed safely.

Among those arriving were 55 passengers who had been rerouted from Manchester who were immediately bussed back to the north west of England.

British airspace was reopened from 10pm last night, paving the way for airlines to take to the skies again and to start to bring home the thousands stranded abroad.

The Civil Aviation Authority sanctioned the reopening of airspace for the first time since flights were grounded across Europe on Thursday.

The move was decided after manufacturers agreed increased ash tolerance levels for planes.
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Old April 21st, 2010, 09:31 PM   #113
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What a load of crap. Why the hell are people crying, hugging and celebrating? It was a delay of like 5 or 6 days, not like they were taken hostages during a hijacking. What a bunch of drama queens. I wonder what they do when a family member returns after a 2 week holiday. Welcome them with flowers and a red carpet maybe.
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What a load of crap. Why the hell are people crying, hugging and celebrating? It was a delay of like 5 or 6 days, not like they were taken hostages during a hijacking. What a bunch of drama queens. I wonder what they do when a family member returns after a 2 week holiday. Welcome them with flowers and a red carpet maybe.
I'm guessing allot of people will have been away for 2 weeks and then "stranded" for a further 5 days.

During the 5 days, nobody knew how long they would be stranded for so I think people have the right to be emotional when returning home.
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What a load of crap. Why the hell are people crying, hugging and celebrating? It was a delay of like 5 or 6 days, not like they were taken hostages during a hijacking. What a bunch of drama queens. I wonder what they do when a family member returns after a 2 week holiday. Welcome them with flowers and a red carpet maybe.
first of all...your whole message is one and all crap.....
second of all, Are u aware of how many people are being affected by this ash cloud?!?!?!?! A lot of people have still no option to go home or already waiting 6-7 days and some of them have to wait 2 weeks more or even later to get home...This brings a lot of uncalculated expenses with them and it's not for sure if they get (a part of) it back/a refund. And what about urgent medical services for some peeps or relatives which are ill or even have past away, but the passenger can't go to it because of this 'disaster'....
And you forget all the business' related to aviation...A lot of people missed a lot of income because of this and many companies don't have the (right) insurance to get the missed revenue and income back...
This is an emotional, economic and social disaster for a lot of people, so please don't talk B*LLSH*T if you don't know what ya talkin about...The total cost of this disaster will costs billions of euro/dollar and who's going to pay for it......maybe a little support by government/E.U., but that's all!!!! Or are you willing to pay this?
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I'm guessing allot of people will have been away for 2 weeks and then "stranded" for a further 5 days.

During the 5 days, nobody knew how long they would be stranded for so I think people have the right to be emotional when returning home.
Big deal. 19 instead of 14 days. My brother was stuck there and he had to be here for my wedding. He'll finally arrive today (or probably just have) and will just make it to the event. I'm sure no-one will be crying or hugging or shit like that. I can't think of a scenario where someone being stuck for 5 days will make me cry/hug/weep.
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first of all...your whole message is one and all crap.....
second of all, Are u aware of how many people are being affected by this ash cloud?!?!?!?! A lot of people have still no option to go home or already waiting 6-7 days and some of them have to wait 2 weeks more or even later to get home...This brings a lot of uncalculated expenses with them and it's not for sure if they get (a part of) it back/a refund. And what about urgent medical services for some peeps or relatives which are ill or even have past away, but the passenger can't go to it because of this 'disaster'....
And you forget all the business' related to aviation...A lot of people missed a lot of income because of this and many companies don't have the (right) insurance to get the missed revenue and income back...
This is an emotional, economic and social disaster for a lot of people, so please don't talk B*LLSH*T if you don't know what ya talkin about...The total cost of this disaster will costs billions of euro/dollar and who's going to pay for it......maybe a little support by government/E.U., but that's all!!!! Or are you willing to pay this?
Emotional and social disaster? HOW?

As for the economical disaster, I think EU will probably pay the airlines. A lot of businesses have suffered, but not to a huge degree. Also, a lot of businesses have also made a lot of money (cabs, trucks, buses, trains).
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Emotional and social disaster? HOW?

As for the economical disaster, I think EU will probably pay the airlines. A lot of businesses have suffered, but not to a huge degree. Also, a lot of businesses have also made a lot of money (cabs, trucks, buses, trains).
do you think the EU will pay the airlines no because it's not there fault you just can't stop a volcano erupting. it will be more likely that the airlines will pay for compassion in some areas (not most) due to the fact they treated people well and put them in hotels.saying bailing out airline companies is just not the right way to go unless this continued for weeks on end then yes then a bail out would be needed. all i can say they put safety in front rather than money.
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If any airline goes out of business due to the volcano, the chances are that airline was already on the brink of collapse.
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