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Old June 14th, 2004, 07:47 PM   #1
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Indonesia Tempoe Doeloe (Old Times Indonesia)

Jakarta Tram (1920s)


The carriage of this tram is similar with Glenelg Line in Adelaide.




Jakarta Harbour:


HMS Batavia (Jakarta), I think should be HMS huh?:


Aerial View (1935):


Amsterdam Gate (dunno still exist or not)


Old Jakarta Theatre:

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Old June 14th, 2004, 08:09 PM   #2
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Bogor Palace:


Uh Oh, I miss this place. My high school is just opposite.
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Old June 15th, 2004, 07:18 AM   #3
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Bogor Palace:


Uh Oh, I miss this place. My high school is just opposite.
Sanhen You studied in Bogor then ?
Where are you located at now ?

Cool pictures ...
Let's show the worlds ... this is INDONESIA .... :smile:
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Old June 15th, 2004, 07:29 AM   #4
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Yup. Regina Pacis High School. I am in Melbourne now.

Btw. The deers (how to say 'rusa' in english?) is still exist and roaming freely in the palace ground. Jakarta Governor Sutiyoso took some of them and put them in Monas Monument ground.

yah, old time indonesia is beautiful.
there's more pics on the net if you googling.
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Old June 15th, 2004, 07:40 AM   #5
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yeah.. jakarta looked like a nice city in the old times..
they should'nt scrap off the trams.. they're nice
I always take the tram from the city to glenelg here in adelaide..
did u know that glenelg spelled backwards is still glenelg
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Old June 15th, 2004, 07:58 AM   #6
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LOL glenelg.
i never realized that.

they scrap the tram because in favour of cars and buses.
the street is not just wide enough.
i think it was the US goverment that push this idea to countries.
i still can see the tram line during the 80s in Jakarta.

but, that is a wrong move though.
even sydney regret they scrap their tram.
now they have a short line from central station to casino.
tram is clean and eco friendly (as long as they're not jamming cars).

i love tram.
always use it here.
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Old June 15th, 2004, 08:16 AM   #7
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yeah i love trams as well.. they're great..
here's a few pics of the glenelg - victoria square tram in adelaide







pics courtesy of www.urbanmelbourne.com/adelaide
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Old June 15th, 2004, 08:31 AM   #8
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Yup. Regina Pacis High School. I am in Melbourne now.

Btw. The deers (how to say 'rusa' in english?) is still exist and roaming freely in the palace ground. Jakarta Governor Sutiyoso took some of them and put them in Monas Monument ground.

yah, old time indonesia is beautiful.
there's more pics on the net if you googling.
Yupp the deers are still there.
Funny enough when Gus Dur was a president ... they catch the deer and ate it .... Unless I am Mistaken ...
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Old June 15th, 2004, 08:34 AM   #9
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Those trams on Jakarta and Adelaide looks like the old city circle tram in Melbourne

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Old June 15th, 2004, 10:41 AM   #10
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yeah they are similar )).

the difference is Melbourne Class W City Circle tram have two side doors, whilst indo tram have only one in the center. and i think the gauge also different.

maybe taman mini or ambarawa train museum have this tram preserved. if i am not mistaken, melbourne style tram do exist in semarang or surabaya before. cant remember.

so far in oz i have seen double traction tram only in adelaide. but melbourne new siemens tram have 5 (!!!!!) section instead of 3.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 09:25 AM   #11
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Soekarno scrapped the trams during the Demokrasi Terpimpin. In 1955, the Bataviasch Verkeers Maatschappij handed over the trams to the city government. Soekarno considered it 'unmodern' and instead wanted highways with busses to replace them.

The Batavia gate was destroyed by the Japanese during World War Two. Other prominent buildings, such as Harmonie (a club for Dutch), Wilhelmina Park (Where a statue of Athena stood, symbolizing Batavia) was also destroyed to make way for the Istiqlal Mosque. Soekarno wanted whole district razed so he can indulge in his pathetic 'modernization' movement of Djakarta.

During his reign of Demokrasi Terpimpin, he build or planned to build among other things: Senayan Sport Complex (financed mostly from Soviet help), Hotel Indonesia (14 floors) and Wisma Nusantara (29 floors) which where financed from war reparation money with Japan, Monumen Nasional, Istiqlal Mosque and had wanted to build a very tall tower (Menara Bung Karno) and the largest theater in the world.

He had a vision of Jakarta that would have made it look very similar to any Communist capitals, complete with huge, ugly, modernist, commie blocks.
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Old June 17th, 2004, 10:34 AM   #12
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phew lucky his vision is being scrapped.. ehehe i dont want to see commie blocks everywhere in Jakarta
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I found these on the internet

http://home.wanadoo.nl/~varro/foto_bob.htm



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Old July 23rd, 2004, 10:46 AM   #14
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Jakarta


Jakarta:
- Atas: Complex Perbankan - Monumen Nasional - Gedung M.P.R.
- Bawah: Gedung Hailai Ancol - Lambang D.K.I. - Lalu lintas dijalan
Thamrin
Date: '70s, 80s


- The Harmony Junction of Jakarta.
Date:


- Pusat Perdagangan Jakarta | Commercial center Jakarta.
Date: 70s


- Main street of Jakarta.
Date:



- Kesibukan lalu lintas di jalan Jendral Sudirman kearah Kebayoran. | Heavy traffic at jalan Jendral Sudirman en route to Kebayoran Jakarta.
Date: 80s


- R.S. Carolus Jakarta.
Date:


-Keramaian lalu lintas di Jalan Hayam Wuruk dan Gajah Mada, Jakarta | Bustle of traffic at Hayam Wuruk and Gajah Mada streets , Jakarta.
Date:


- Gereja Kathedral Jakarta | Cathedral
Jakarta.
Date:'80s


- Mesjid Agung, Kebayoran Jakarta
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 10:49 AM   #15
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Bandung


- Bandung Institute of Technology Ganesa str. (Taman Sari)
Date: 1970s


- Gedung Sate
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 10:50 AM   #16
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Prambanan


- The Prambanan Temple, built between 732 and 928 A.D. near Jogyakarta.
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- Kereta sapi dengan latar belakang Candi Prambangan, Jawa Tengah | Cow cart with temple Candi Prambangan at background, Central Java.
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 10:52 AM   #17
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Semarang


- Tugu Muda | Youth Monument
Date:1970s


- Tugu Muda |
Date:1980s


- Klenteng Sam Po Kong | The Sam Po Kong Chinese temple.
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 10:56 AM   #18
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Surabaya


- Atas: Djl. Tundjungan - Geredja Katolik St. Maria
- Bawah: Pasar Blaoeran - Djembatan Sindhu Negara
Date: '70s, 80s


- Two views of the shopping center 'Tunjungan'.
Date: '70s

Another Pictures

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Old July 23rd, 2004, 01:33 PM   #19
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Nice pic,bring back my memory about jakarta ,thought i am not born in th 70
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Old July 23rd, 2004, 02:28 PM   #20
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wow
kewl
jakarta has always been crowded by traffic
too bad sukarno scrapped the tram =/
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