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Old November 7th, 2004, 04:27 PM   #301
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I think the CSS's services days are truly numbered. They are a relic of past days, a service which was once needed, but no longer so in today's scenario. They might as well get rid of them all quickly instead of doing it one at a time!
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Old November 8th, 2004, 12:56 AM   #302
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HK's public transport beats S'pore's because it's reliable, affordable

I LIVE in Hong Kong.

The structure of the public transport system in Hong Kong is similar to that in Singapore, but the efficiency of the system in Hong Kong is second to none.

If Singapore is ranked third, it must have been a distant third.

Although the Singapore media often praises the so-called world-class standard of the Singapore public transport system, the best compliment comes not from ourselves but from our more developed neighbours.

These are some observations on Hong Kong's superb transport system:

Affordability: In Hong Kong, the cost of public transport is kept affordable in relation to the average income level.

Reliability: There is no SMS service to inform commuters arrival times. There is no need for such an expensive service as the public transport system is reliable.

Efficiency: Hong Kong's bus system is made up of 'regular' buses (similar to Singapore's SBS buses) and minibuses. There are many express routes that ply between residential areas and key business areas. The minibuses are driven by market demand and operate in areas not frequented by the 'regular' bus routes.

Competitiveness: Since the MTR subway system and bus companies are owned by separate entities, there is real motivation for each company to improve its services and meet market demand. Within the bus transport system, there are at least five companies to service the community - Firstbus, Citybus, KMB and two minibus companies.

In Singapore, SBS has undertaken numerous initiatives to improve the system, an instance being the introduction of SMS service.

However, knowing arrival times of buses is useless if the bus system is not efficient and reliable in the first place.

In an environment of a real world-class transport system, there would be no need for an SMS service. The implementation of the SMS service presumably entailed high set-up costs which will eventually be passed on to consumers.

Transport companies should remember that their imperative public role is to provide an efficient and inexpensive transport system.

Frills such as SMS service and television sets on buses should be regarded as a secondary objective, the primary one being to continuously improve the efficiency of the transport system.

Only with an almost flawless public transport system will there be a control on the number of cars on the roads.

Long Tian Fang
Hong Kong

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Old November 8th, 2004, 03:52 AM   #303
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IMO I think that guy is screwed up and has nothing else better to do than to make such a comment.
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Old November 8th, 2004, 08:18 AM   #304
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Muahaha....I seriously am contemplating writing a reply to that letter writer.

Notice the "evidence" he gave to support his stance seems watery at best? He keeps insisting that the buses there are "more efficient." By what measure? He made no mention on that. Singapore's transport system is one of the cheapest in the developed world, and even Singaporeans find their costs expensive. What makes us any inferior in that aspect?

Singapore tried introducing "minibuses", but they dont really take off, perhaps demonstrating just how comprehensive the existing services already are. Not to forget our taxis fill the gap easily, besides being amongst the cheapest worldwide too. And dont we have express bus services too?

All in all, he seems to be arguing that the Singapore bus system is less efficient only because of the recent introduction of the sms service??

I think he has been living in HK too long.
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Old November 8th, 2004, 08:53 AM   #305
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Old November 8th, 2004, 08:54 AM   #306
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i yearn for greater frequencies and more direct routes though..
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Old November 8th, 2004, 08:57 AM   #307
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I wonder just how "inefficient" the public transport in Singapore is??
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:00 AM   #308
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i yearn for greater frequencies and more direct routes though..
Yeah..but that can hardly be considered a measure of "efficiency" right?
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One of my favourite bus.......and my favourite seat.....anyone care to guess??
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:04 AM   #310
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nono i'm just saying more can be done to improve. the tvs should stay.
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:05 AM   #311
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nono i'm just saying more can be done to improve. the tvs should stay.
Get rid of the TVs!
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:07 AM   #312
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tv mobile is good because bus rides are worse than boring if you're not sleeping
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:12 AM   #313
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tv mobile is good because bus rides are worse than boring if you're not sleeping
Yup.....I find it okay when I'm really bored.......but then sometimes really irritate when you seen the programme for umpteen times........
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:19 AM   #314
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nono! i might die further without tvs!
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:21 AM   #315
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uh... i dont watch tv often so i dunno what they show also.. and i dont really take bus in sg very often these days (because i'm in perth).
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uh... i dont watch tv often so i dunno what they show also.. and i dont really take bus in sg very often these days (because i'm in perth).
I suppose you'll have plenty of chance(to take the bus) once you get back to Singapore??
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:23 AM   #317
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look cab! (dont be hum sup)





hippo bus





silvercab - free air purifier, wet towel and what else? i remember three items.
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[QUOTE=heirloom]look cab! (dont be hum sup)
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Emm.....I thought the government would like us to be more "hum sup" so that the population would get bigger??
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Old November 8th, 2004, 09:34 AM   #319
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be careful arh.. hum sup teachers always get in trouble...



london cabs; we should have like 10 million of these! they are so adorable! how come we have so little only? i've never even been on one except in london. and it was the crummier older type.












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Muahaha....I seriously am contemplating writing a reply to that letter writer.

Notice the "evidence" he gave to support his stance seems watery at best? He keeps insisting that the buses there are "more efficient." By what measure? He made no mention on that. Singapore's transport system is one of the cheapest in the developed world, and even Singaporeans find their costs expensive. What makes us any inferior in that aspect?

Singapore tried introducing "minibuses", but they dont really take off, perhaps demonstrating just how comprehensive the existing services already are. Not to forget our taxis fill the gap easily, besides being amongst the cheapest worldwide too. And dont we have express bus services too?

All in all, he seems to be arguing that the Singapore bus system is less efficient only because of the recent introduction of the sms service??

I think he has been living in HK too long.
I thought I might see your reply on the straits times tomorrow??
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