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Old November 10th, 2004, 04:27 PM   #421
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A gay with a train set? Seriously, heir, I think our continued efforts to straigthen you appears to be reaping some results.
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Old November 10th, 2004, 04:32 PM   #422
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uhuhuuhuh got efforts meh? i used to be itnerested in cars even... but that was in primary school..
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Old November 10th, 2004, 04:36 PM   #423
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Why is heirloom a gay?

If you want a full length trainset either get those cheapo ones at the pasar malam for under 20 dollars, full length...haha...or more expensive build it yourself LEGO ones for about 100 dollars.

So its expected that real sized models will be expensive. Guess not only does it cost them money to manufacture train models to look a tad more real than pasar malam or LEGO ones but also perhaps they need to pay for the permission to be granted from Alstom to use their train design.
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Old November 10th, 2004, 04:37 PM   #424
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He is gay because he is happy.

Lego...I used to use it to build monster ships, bridges, and eventually...even airports.
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Old November 10th, 2004, 04:40 PM   #425
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Then you must have spent hundreds on acquiring tonnes of LEGO bricks.

I only had one LEGO set. Could only go as far as to building a 10m by 10m (converted to real life scale) house with a small garden and 1 kitchen and 1 multi use room (bedroom living room). No toilet.
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Old November 10th, 2004, 04:44 PM   #426
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i am gay because i am

omg i love lego but parents always no money to buy the 250 dollar train set haha.

i want a realistic train set lar.. not the pasar malam type alhtough i never see before.. uh but i repeat i dunno how to make it useful
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Old November 10th, 2004, 04:47 PM   #427
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No...they are almost all free....because my cousin happens to work at the toy department. But of coz I dont get those lego sets....I just get a huge number of those similar shaped blocks, especially the 2 by 4 retangular block. they were probably used for exhibitions or something, but I could build a suspension bridge about 1 metre long using them alone, plus some string (which always causes my mum to scream).
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Old November 10th, 2004, 06:01 PM   #428
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Cause many people don't have any appreciation for the older SMRT rolling stock. They should have.

Yup doubt the models sold by SBS Transit are selling well cause despite the fact that they are limited edition models, its been a year since NEL commenced service and they are still being sold. Big drawback, the price.

If they manufactured the train models in smaller sizes they would be cheaper (contrary to what Kit said) cause when a train model is small, they don't have to spend additional resources, hence driving up costs, in paying particular attention to the train interior details, they can just make do with the train exterior details. This can be the affordable version.

But if people want models of a larger scale and with a more detailed design, they can still purchase the more expensive version. Since railway train models that move on tracks are cheap, they can install the same cheap motors on these NEL train models so they can move.
The cost of making a die cast model, more often than not, is determined by the level of detail and not size. I can come up with a dozen of examples indicating more detail but smaller die cast models actually cost more. Amount of recources put together to make a small but detailed model can exceed that of a bigger model. Many times, just because the model is bigger doesn't means its packed with more details. Making really detailed small models are not technically impossible but takes more time to detail and of course, will cost more.

There isn't really a point to make a really detailed interior and "make do" with the exterior. What people are going after is a piece of reality. Modellers strive to build them as close to the real thing as possible irregardless of what kind of detail you get. If you want to pay less, you get a less detailed model but the level of detail is uniform throughout. Vice versa applies but I can safely tell you...... manufacturers have been paying more attention to exterior details more than interior because on the shelves, that's what sells the models.
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Old November 10th, 2004, 06:04 PM   #429
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The existing NEL Train Models are very detailed, both in its exterior and interiors (You can see the seats).

If you made the train smaller, you can don't even bother about making the interiors, hence saving costs and being cheaper. You are basically just making the shell of the train and not the interior designs too.
I think you haven't come across some smaller models that equal, if not exceeds bigger models in terms of details. Being able to see the seats is not exactly what I would call "detailed". You can see seats on a $2.50 Hotwheel die cast.
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Old November 10th, 2004, 06:10 PM   #430
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I used to have a friend in JC who hated mercedes bus......he say it was very noisy.......unlike volvo which is smooth and steady.......
Heh!! If he thinks the Benzes were noisy, he should really have a ride on old Leylands and Albions. Mind blowing loud!!!
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Old November 11th, 2004, 01:51 AM   #431
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Nov 11, 2004
New highway to ease CTE jams
Proposed North-South Expressway next to CTE may run from Sembawang/Upp Thomson to city
By Christopher Tan
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THE Government is mulling over what could be Singapore's last expressway project - one that will give new hopes to residents in the north who are perennially stuck in traffic jams.

The Straits Times understands that plans are being sewn up for a highway that can alleviate the peak-hour congestion on the 13-year-old Central Expressway (CTE).

Tentatively called the North-South Expressway, the proposed highway will run west of, and almost parallel to, the CTE and may have its northern end in the Sembawang/Upper Thomson area.

The CTE is currently the only high-speed link between growing population centres in the northern parts of the island and downtown, and congestion on it has worsened steadily since it first opened in 1991.

The proposed new expressway, said a Land Transport Authority (LTA) official, would run through 'substantially developed parts of Singapore' and thus might have elevated and underground sections.

Because of its proposed alignment through built-up areas, he said, various other agencies were being consulted in a final feasibility study the LTA was conducting.

An engineering study was conducted from 2002 till last year with consultants Parsons Brinckerhoff Merz and McLellan - American tunnelling specialists whose projects include New York's subway system.

The LTA would not comment further, but The Straits Times understands the new highway may be built as early as 2010, and that it would be linked to the other expressways.

The proposed North-South Expressway would be Singapore's 10th, after the CTE, East Coast Parkway, Pan-Island, Kranji, Seletar, Bukit Timah, Tampines and Ayer Rajah expressways.

The Kallang-Paya Lebar Expressway is now under construction and is expected to be ready by 2008. The 12km highway includes a 9km underground section.

The North-South Expressway, if constructed, will possibly be the last highway project for Singapore, which has already devoted 12 per cent of its land area to roads.

The new expressway was not envisioned in the LTA's 1996 White Paper on a world-class land transport system it wants for Singapore.

It was mooted after traffic congestion on the CTE worsened.

Today, about 9,500 vehicles per hour head north on the Central Expressway during the evening peak period - three times the volume recorded in the first hour after it opened on Sept 21, 1991.

North-bound traffic is so heavy that night electronic road-pricing - a first for a highway in Singapore - was once considered as a solution.

To ease congestion, certain stretches of the highway were widened in recent years, including that leading to the Braddell Road exit.

However, traffic remains heavy.

Because of this, the ERP rates of $3 on the CTE and a sliproad into it during the morning peak hour period are the highest for any road here.

Traffic volume has been growing as more Housing Board towns have been built in the north.

From Ang Mo Kio and Yishun, the region alone now accounts for over one-third of all HDB flats, with new estates like Sengkang, Punggol and Sembawang still expanding.

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Tentatively called the North-South Expressway, the proposed highway will run west of, and almost parallel to, the CTE and may have its northern end in the Sembawang/Upper Thomson area. It would run through 'substantially developed parts of Singapore' and thus might have elevated and underground sections. It may be built as early as 2010 and would be Singapore's 10th highway.

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It will be cool if they had the intention to build a dual level expressway though, like the ones in Tokyo, to handle double the traffic with the same amount of land space required and hide them underground. The benefits would be enormous but so would the costs. I hate seeing expressways pop up everywhere. Seeing the construction of the Kallang Paya Lebar Expressway already makes me wanna puke. They literally tore a path through Singapore's landscape. Thank goodness its underground for most of the way. Can't imagine the destruction to the landscape if it had been elevated.
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I think you haven't come across some smaller models that equal, if not exceeds bigger models in terms of details. Being able to see the seats is not exactly what I would call "detailed". You can see seats on a $2.50 Hotwheel die cast.
I didn't say that seeing the seats means a train is detailed. That was just one example. Thats why I said that by making the train models smaller, they can afford to make less details on the train models cause there's no point in putting in so much effort on the details in small trains anyways cause you can hardly see them, hence cheaper. I didn't mean making them smaller and yet maintaining the same level of detail. That would definitely be more expensive like what you said.

Ya I agree if the train models for NEL had no detailed interiors and had only the exterior shell it would be cheaper. And to make it even cheaper size is also an issue too, cause being small means less materials used, in addition to the cost savings from the lesser attention to detail.
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Well, to tell you the truth, making money out of these models or even making die cast collection popular is not the priority for SBS Transit or SMRT for that matter. Like I said, I've talked to them and they have no intention to further any die cast production. The reason why these die cast models are still available although being produced in limited quantity is that they're not marketed like Hotwheels. You don't find them readily available in shops.

The sole purpose of these models is to commerate the new SBS Transit Coporate identity and launch of NEL. Actually part of these productions were actually given away as coporate gifts. Since these models represent the company, I wouldn't imagine that they would make cheaper, less detailed models. Like it or not, its really meant for the die hard collectors and business partners, not your everyday toy buyers.
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Sadly I agree with what you had said. Too bad. Cheaper makes of these models could have been really fun to play with...haha...
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actually wouldnt building another expressway atop cte be cheaper than building one underground?
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Perhaps, perhaps not.

Having two expressways running parallel to each other seems like a waste of space. Ideally, its better to just have one single expressway that can handle all the traffic from the new CTE and the old CTE (Dual level, underground expressway).

But that would be very expensive cause you literally have to build two expressways and demolish the old one, so I guess building another expressway alongside, regardless of the fact that it takes up precious land space, is the most cost effective way to attempting to solve our CTE traffic problems.
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i dont think cost is too much of an issue here if they can build the kpe..

anyway since the govt is so fond of building excesss capacity might as well go full steam build a 5 level expressway.
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Our government...excess capacity? Perhaps in a few areas like the airport...but they certainly didn't have ''excess capacity'' in mind when they built our MRT platforms, which are built to cater only to 6 car trains and cannot be lengthened in the event that ridership increases as population increases etc etc. Then again, maybe 6 car lengths are already sufficient for the long run. The issue lies then in increasing train frequencies, so no need for excess capacity in platform length there...
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