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Old November 20th, 2013, 12:41 PM   #2981
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Wait, but the article doesn't state anything about tourists being not allowed to take pictures?
I mean THAT would be just a disgrace, celebrating the construction of this complex for the whole world to see, then put an observation deck in the main tower, but if you actually visit the site, want to walk around it and take pictures, it's considered insecure???
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Old November 20th, 2013, 01:51 PM   #2982
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Anatomy Of A Building: World Trade Center Transit Hub

Read more: Anatomy Of A Building: World Trade Center Transit Hub · NYU Local http://nyulocal.com/city/2013/11/19/...#ixzz2lBZlOvP2
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Old November 20th, 2013, 04:56 PM   #2983
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Current security reality

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Wait, but the article doesn't state anything about tourists being not allowed to take pictures?
I mean THAT would be just a disgrace, celebrating the construction of this complex for the whole world to see, then put an observation deck in the main tower, but if you actually visit the site, want to walk around it and take pictures, it's considered insecure???
AFAIK this matter has been decided by the courts in favor of the photographers, which I think constitutionally logical (I am not a lawyer).

If you are a tourist, please don't let these POSSIBLE future vehicle barriers keep you away. I consider this security theater part of the NY, NY experience.

My feelings toward some of the security theater have also evolved over the last decade. For example, I thought the National Guard stationed inside NY's Penn Station were sort of silly. However, after the Nairobi shopping mall tragedy, I've starting thinking they might have a slight utility. The last time I was at Penn they were walking around in pairs w/ handguns cabled to themselves. On a given weekday, New York Penn Station sees approximately 430,000 riders boarding and alighting trains within the station.
www.realtransit.org/tao_2013_7.php

I've reposted the current LMCCC (Lower Manhattan Construction Command Center) street map below to give you a visual idea on how large the vehicle security area is and it's relationship to vehicle traffic flow/one-way streets. The block that is overlaid by the numbers 8420 is a 1930's Federal Office Bldg. The orangish stripe next to the 8420 is the current "NYCDDC/WTC Security". 0690 is "PATH Transit Hall - Oculus"

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Old November 20th, 2013, 05:04 PM   #2984
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Old November 20th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #2985
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Has anybody noticed that all of this camera trouble started when they had 13 segments on each side positioned... and that it happened on November 13th?

Just saying...
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Old November 20th, 2013, 07:06 PM   #2986
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Has anybody noticed that all of this camera trouble started when they had 13 segments on each side positioned... and that it happened on November 13th?

Just saying...
We should have adopted Otie's way of counting the portals then maybe this would never have happened
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Old November 20th, 2013, 08:05 PM   #2987
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^ That's how it is marked on the blueprints.
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Old November 21st, 2013, 06:42 PM   #2988
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It is not off. Just one preprogrammed angle and zoom is not available on the server. Check my last post. Camera and server are still functional.

How is "not available on the server" and "off" different?

So if it's not off, I could still SEE the Oculus, right? How do I do that?
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Old November 21st, 2013, 07:06 PM   #2989
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How is "not available on the server" and "off" different?

So if it's not off, I could still SEE the Oculus, right? How do I do that?
The camera can be absolutely operational.
But system administration of ecnetwork.us could for any reason change location of stream for any other to hide it from public.
Let's say they named it URL /archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzmpr288_333344445555.jpg instead curent URL /archives5/ecnetwork/us/ny/nyc/gzmpr/gzmpr288_4.jpg

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Old November 21st, 2013, 07:22 PM   #2990
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How is "not available on the server" and "off" different?

So if it's not off, I could still SEE the Oculus, right? How do I do that?
The camera is working since all the other angles which are captured by the same camera are still available. So the camera is still on, either they do no longer record the "oculus" angle or they do, but do not make it available on the server.
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Old November 21st, 2013, 11:33 PM   #2991
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this also wont work someone ells try this link http://archives.earthcam.com/archive...gzmpr288_4.jpg
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Old November 21st, 2013, 11:38 PM   #2992
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this also wont work someone ells try this link http://archives.earthcam.com/archive...gzmpr288_4.jpg
It's known dead link
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 07:43 PM   #2993
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The camera is working since all the other angles which are captured by the same camera are still available. So the camera is still on, either they do no longer record the "oculus" angle or they do, but do not make it available on the server.

I beleive this is NOT THE SAME camera. There are more than one cameras at the same spot. One is focusing on Tower 4, one on the Oculus, one on Tower 1, etc. The camera filmin the Oculus IS off.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 08:41 PM   #2994
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 09:12 PM   #2995
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Oh, bring us a station webcam;
Oh, bring us a station webcam;
Oh, bring us a station webcam, for we've lost our good cheer!

We won't go until we get one;
We won't go until we get one;
We won't go until we get one, so bring it right here!
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 02:58 AM   #2996
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plz bring back the transportation hub cam link
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 12:54 PM   #2997
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At least when people do occasionally post pictures of the hub progress we'll see real progress made rather than the snail pace they were at when we checked the cam everyday! Just trying to find a positive from this...
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Old November 24th, 2013, 12:34 PM   #2998
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An older video from dbox with some Transportation Hub CGI rendering porn (after 1:11)...

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Old November 24th, 2013, 05:11 PM   #2999
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This camera is clearly pointing downwards, isn't it? How could it be filming the tip of Freedom Tower at the same time it is filming the Oculus? Better yet, how could it be filming the tip of Freedom Tower, which is located upwards right in front of the camera and at the same time be filming the top of WTC4, which is located upwards at a 90 degree angle to the left, and at the same time point the Oculus?

My guess is that there are more than one camera...
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This camera is clearly pointing downwards, isn't it? How could it be filming the tip of Freedom Tower at the same time it is filming the Oculus? Better yet, how could it be filming the tip of Freedom Tower, which is located upwards right in front of the camera and at the same time be filming the top of WTC4, which is located upwards at a 90 degree angle to the left, and at the same time point the Oculus?

My guess is that there are more than one camera...
I don't know what makes you believe that the camera is filming two spots at the same time. The pictures are updating every 15-20 minutes, that is because the camera has to move and zoom into different angles.

And remember, each time when the camera was unmounted due to window washing activities, all links always showed the same position, because the camera was no longer able to move around during these outtages. Better accept it that there is only one
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