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Old December 8th, 2013, 03:33 PM   #3081
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Metro-North also services two states: NY and Connecticut.
Yes, I'm aware of that...
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Old December 8th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #3082
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I knew LIRR and Metro North are under their "ownership" (I mean, you see the MTA logo everywhere), but I didn't know that it is, or that ownership implied it is, managed by the MTA...in regards to operations, maintenance, etc.

That is what I was asking for clarification of, since you seemed to know...
Well, this is somewhat off-topic, so I don't want to keep this tangent going too long, but here is the little I know.

I am not intimately familiar with the organizational structure of MTA and how the management of their various divisions is arranged. Ultimately, they all fall under the same "roof" and so there is a larger level of management that is certainly coordinated.

I would point to the East Side Access project, for example, which plans to bring LIRR into Grand Central, which currently serves MetroNorth. East Side Access is major capitol project taken on by MTA, as well as the 7 extension, Fulton Center, and the 2nd Avenue Subway. Information about all 4 projects can be found on their site - as well as other developments.

Visit this site, and look under "Mega Projects" tab.
http://web.mta.info/capitaldashboard/CPDHome.html

I don't have any "insider" information nor am I an expert, but I don't see any reason to believe that MTA doesn't ultimately manage all of their services. I am certain this is done so in divisions that make sense for their organizational structure.
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Old December 9th, 2013, 07:18 PM   #3083
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O Oculus, O Oculus,
How faithless is thy EarthCam!
Their coverage doth really blow,
In summer and in winter snow!
O Oculus, O Oculus,
How faithless is thy EarthCam!

O Oculus, O Oculus,
How we do miss thy EarthCam!
On many happy days of yore
Above thy portals we did soar!
O Oculus, O Oculus,
How we do miss thy EarthCam!
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Old December 10th, 2013, 06:32 AM   #3084
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I've been wondering about the height figure in the thread title for a long time. Here is an old pic I've had which says 160 feet. Which doesn't seem to include the height of the rafters. Can someone confirm the true height of the building? Otie perhaps?

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Old December 10th, 2013, 06:36 AM   #3085
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Old December 10th, 2013, 05:55 PM   #3086
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I think we noted that we lost the Oculus camera around November 13. At that time, there were about 13 transition segments placed on each of the 4 sides.

Now here we are about a month later, and the Street View and other views seem to show that very few more have been placed. Therefore, could there be more to the madness than first appears? Is the camera down because of things they don't want us to see? Why have so few more segments been placed?
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Old December 10th, 2013, 08:14 PM   #3087
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I think we noted that we lost the Oculus camera around November 13. At that time, there were about 13 transition segments placed on each of the 4 sides.

Now here we are about a month later, and the Street View and other views seem to show that very few more have been placed. Therefore, could there be more to the madness than first appears? Is the camera down because of things they don't want us to see? Why have so few more segments been placed?
Pretty sure we are not important to them in the slightest, but nice conspiracy theory.
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Old December 11th, 2013, 01:57 AM   #3088
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The folks down there are pretty well aware they are being observed. I am certain the Oculus view was disabled by desire, though can't figure out a particular reason.

Spectre, I am working on something.
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Old December 11th, 2013, 09:07 AM   #3089
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An older one from PANYNJ's facebook...
We're talking about some serious scaffolding down there...

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Old December 11th, 2013, 05:48 PM   #3090
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The folks down there are pretty well aware they are being observed. I am certain the Oculus view was disabled by desire, though can't figure out a particular reason.

Spectre, I am working on something.
Seriously!? Wow that really surprises me. Not that we have any power to do anything about what we see....
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Old December 11th, 2013, 07:55 PM   #3091
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An older one from PANYNJ's facebook...
We're talking about some serious scaffolding down there...
They need to get up there to weld all those arch segments. I wonder if they will build the scaffold up to weld the rafters, or they will do it some other way.
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Old December 12th, 2013, 03:28 PM   #3092
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#14 NW !!!
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never mind. I guess it was the wrong piece and it didnt fit so it got taken down
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Old December 12th, 2013, 05:37 PM   #3094
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I find the amazing and timely coincidences of Earth Cam shutting down and the lack of serious construction progress... fascinating. (Raises eyebrow)

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Old December 12th, 2013, 06:10 PM   #3095
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I find the amazing and timely coincidences of Earth Cam shutting down and the lack of serious construction progress... fascinating. (Raises eyebrow)

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Dammit, Spock, I'm a doctor not an ironworker!
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Old December 13th, 2013, 09:14 AM   #3096
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They need to get up there to weld all those arch segments. I wonder if they will build the scaffold up to weld the rafters, or they will do it some other way.
Segments after nr.10, from each quadrant, are bolted.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 09:36 AM   #3097
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Why don't they bolt all of them? Aesthetics?
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Old December 13th, 2013, 12:03 PM   #3098
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The connections between the segments are bolted. However, the connections between upper portals and transition segments need to be welded.

@RubenT: I guess it has to do with the bigger load the outer ones have to carry.

from WTC Progress on Facebook:
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Workers erect and weld steel ribs under the 1 subway line at WTC Transportation Hub.
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Old December 13th, 2013, 04:30 PM   #3099
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Why don't they bolt all of them? Aesthetics?
Close to each splice joint (they are all vertical) at the end of each arch the inclination of all the metal sheets compusing the main supporting arch tube is too steep and all the internal stiffeners preclude the bolting. After 10 segments, the inclination of the walls and stiffeners is more moderated so items are bolted.

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Old December 13th, 2013, 06:51 PM   #3100
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they tried to place another transition segment in that same spot today but yet again it didnt fit
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