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Old March 18th, 2014, 06:21 PM   #3561
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The real question is how old are you, like ten? Coz you act like a baby...
Hey, leave RealVooDoo alone. I was actually thinking of saying in my post that St. Paul's is not at all ancient by European standards. I don't think his comment is childish--it was said in humor. And it's also true. No need for insults here.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 06:23 PM   #3562
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. . .and another SE too.

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Old March 18th, 2014, 06:44 PM   #3563
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Roma = Rome, the Eternal City. I would love to visit there some time.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 09:15 PM   #3564
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Hey, leave RealVooDoo alone. I was actually thinking of saying in my post that St. Paul's is not at all ancient by European standards. I don't think his comment is childish--it was said in humor. And it's also true. No need for insults here.
Thanks, I didn't mean to offend anyone, i just wanted to point out how things could look differently depending on witch part of the world you grow up in.


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Old March 19th, 2014, 02:36 AM   #3565
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Old March 19th, 2014, 03:02 AM   #3566
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The real question is how old are you, like ten? Coz you act like a baby...
"Coz" seems more childish to me. Use real words, and try not to be a ass.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 06:19 AM   #3567
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"Coz" seems more childish to me. Use real words, and try not to be a ass.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 06:37 AM   #3568
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Wow, SOOOOOO old!!

Sorry for the OT, but in my city, Roma, there are a lot of building of the 16th-17th century and the oldest buildings has more than 2000 years
On the other end we don't have so much modern architecture
It is absolutely annoying beyond belief when I hear Europeans say this type of shit. It's significance is contextual. This building was built when NYC had a mere 11,000 people and was nothing more than a small outpost, and has somehow survived the industrial revolution, the skyscraper construction boom of lower manhattan, and inevitably 9/11. This building has seen greater change occur around it than any site in Roma, including the coliseum. Just think this building existed from the time NYC had a mere 11,000 people, and has witnessed New York City become more than three times as large as Modern Day Rome.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 06:38 AM   #3569
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Anyway, now back on topic. I'm excited to go back to NYC and see the hub from the inside!
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Old March 19th, 2014, 01:01 PM   #3570
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It is absolutely annoying beyond belief when I hear Europeans say this type of shit. It's significance is contextual. This building was built when NYC had a mere 11,000 people and was nothing more than a small outpost, and has somehow survived the industrial revolution, the skyscraper construction boom of lower manhattan, and inevitably 9/11. This building has seen greater change occur around it than any site in Roma, including the coliseum. Just think this building existed from the time NYC had a mere 11,000 people, and has witnessed New York City become more than three times as large as Modern Day Rome.
Seriously...? What is the base for the comparison you are trying to make? Why a value judgement of 'historical change'? Of course recent history has more relevance to you, but try looking beyond your own context.

I understand the church has great historical value for NYC. He was just saying that it's age is not that impressive on a global scale. Fair point.

That said, this building is a great addition for NY. Looking forward to seeing it finished.
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Old March 19th, 2014, 04:30 PM   #3571
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Old March 19th, 2014, 05:01 PM   #3572
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Seriously...? What is the base for the comparison you are trying to make? Why a value judgement of 'historical change'? Of course recent history has more relevance to you, but try looking beyond your own context.

I understand the church has great historical value for NYC. He was just saying that it's age is not that impressive on a global scale. Fair point.

That said, this building is a great addition for NY. Looking forward to seeing it finished.
He was saying that from a Euro-Centric point of view, the church isn't that old. And to compare a building's age in the US to that of buildings in Europe is absolute bogus. The historical significance of this church should not be taken in a global context but rather a local context. It's like me saying the Coliseum is laughable and isn't old because I'm from France and we have a building in Barnenez from 4850 BC, making it three three times as old as the coliseum.
Ok, now I'm mister big dick, and now I've exhibited false superiority over Rome's historical significance. I just despise how stupid and ignorant Europeans act toward North American History all too often.


AND on a similar note, I look forward to this building being of historical significance in a few hundred years. haha
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Old March 19th, 2014, 05:50 PM   #3573
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another rafter going in
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Old March 19th, 2014, 06:31 PM   #3574
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Second try, so hopefully they don't have to remove it again..

Only 14 upper portals left with 4 of them already on site, shouldn't be long until the gap is filled
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Old March 19th, 2014, 10:22 PM   #3575
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Santiago Calatrava's Flying Bird Takes Shape at the WTC



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The new World Trade Center transportation hub has come under fire for a lot of things—mostly for being billions of dollars over budget and years past the original opening date—but one thing is for sure: the development, with its exposed rib cage structure, makes for some really fun construction watching. Architect Santiago Calatrava wooed the city 10 years ago when he proposed this "bird in flight" design, but value engineering chipped away much of the finesse and left us with a something less like a graceful bird, and more like a chunky stegosaurus. Even still, now that it's actually rising on the site, it certainly inspires a bit of awe.




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Old March 19th, 2014, 10:47 PM   #3576
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I just checked the older pics, 8 pairs of upper portals have been placed in the last month.. so it shouldn't be much longer than another month until the remaining ones are placed. The rafters should be erected even faster, I suppose
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Old March 19th, 2014, 11:13 PM   #3577
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SE rafter is down on the floor again
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Old March 19th, 2014, 11:55 PM   #3578
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Old March 19th, 2014, 11:59 PM   #3579
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"something less like a graceful bird, and more like a chunky stegosaurus"? Does the author of that article not know that the "wings" of the bird have not been attached yet? How dare he insult our baby!
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Old March 20th, 2014, 12:22 AM   #3580
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I just checked the older pics, 8 pairs of upper portals have been placed in the last month.. so it shouldn't be much longer than another month until the remaining ones are placed. The rafters should be erected even faster, I suppose
Doesn't look like it...
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