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Old June 24th, 2015, 04:27 PM   #6201
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Does anyone actually know what type of coating (paint) they are actually using? I'm assuming it's at least some type of epoxy for durability.
Because of the lack of any other kind of fireproofing, it must be an intumescent paint. When exposed to flame, it expands to many times its original thickness and chars on the outside. This generates an ash-like layer that provides thermal insulation to the material beneath the intumescent coating.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 06:27 PM   #6202
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Because of the lack of any other kind of fireproofing, it must be an intumescent paint. When exposed to flame, it expands to many times its original thickness and chars on the outside. This generates an ash-like layer that provides thermal insulation to the material beneath the intumescent coating.
I was originally thinking the same thing but I wonder if that's the certainly true. Considering there is really nothing close to the structure that would present a significant fire load on the structure it may not be required. Also intumescent paint normally doesn't provide a great service finish nor is it normally very weather resistant.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 07:00 PM   #6203
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According to an article in the New York Times:

Mid-July is when the corridors will open. We'll See.
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Old June 24th, 2015, 07:12 PM   #6204
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Just keeps getting pushed back...
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Old June 24th, 2015, 07:13 PM   #6205
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Old June 24th, 2015, 07:53 PM   #6206
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I was originally thinking the same thing but I wonder if that's the certainly true. Considering there is really nothing close to the structure that would present a significant fire load on the structure it may not be required. Also intumescent paint normally doesn't provide a great service finish nor is it normally very weather resistant.
Agreed, but the "ribs" are pretty much one continuous piece into the inside, so you'd assume the same finish would be used throughout.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 01:36 AM   #6207
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Picture from New York Times article: A Crossroads Decades Gone Will Reopen at the World Trade Center
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Old June 25th, 2015, 02:33 AM   #6208
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Good news that the roads will at least be opening pretty soon. After 50 years!

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For fear of vehicle-borne bombs, however, the crossroads will be closed to traffic.
Uhhhh...And for how long are they planning on closing off the streets from vehicle traffic? Seems like a paranoid move..

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Old June 25th, 2015, 03:05 AM   #6209
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I honestly don't think vehicle traffic will ever be allowed, unless they only allow vehicles that have authorization of some sort.
I guess you could say its a bit of a paranoid move, but we're dealing with a twice attacked site here. I don't think they are willing to take any chances. Better to be safe than sorry.

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Old June 25th, 2015, 03:25 AM   #6210
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I don't think vehicles should ever be allowed back on the interior streets, not because of terror concerns, but because there are so many pedestrians.
Even after all the underground concourses open up, the buildings and memorial will have lots of people coming and going at ground level.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 03:31 AM   #6211
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Only authorized vehicles will be allowed in the "campus". These include bot aren't limited to buses, taxis, black cars, and residents living around the area. These people have to apply for proof of some sort to show to the guards at the sally ports.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 04:49 AM   #6212
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Those are extremely stringent regulations. Well, I look forward to seeing taxis and buses riding along the streets. The road in front of 4WTC is nice and smooth. I rode my bicycle along it on my way back to Brooklyn just to check out progress a few months back.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 07:35 AM   #6213
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Old June 25th, 2015, 04:06 PM   #6214
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Just keeps getting pushed back...
Yes, considering they originally said December (and that was from a report to Community Board 1 last year) They must have the worst project planners ever. Wait, the guys who managed the Fulton Center were the worst ever.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 05:52 PM   #6215
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Old June 25th, 2015, 06:18 PM   #6216
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Now if only Brookfield would get its act together and finish the frontage along West St. There is a crosswalk setup at Fulton and West. It would be nice to walk out of the main entrance of Brookfield Place and be able to walk to Greenwich St avoiding the horrible pedestrian pinch point on the north side of 1WTC. Also, the crosswalk on the south side of Vesey and West. In the morning, huge masses of people are all over that intersection, crossing over to Brookfield, while traffic is turning from Vesey to West. I'm surprised that no one has been hit and injured on that corner.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 06:21 PM   #6217
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They are over a year behind nonetheless on all aspects of their renovations. Their side of West Street was supposed to be done months ago also.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 06:24 PM   #6218
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Now if only Brookfield would get its act together and finish the frontage along West St. There is a crosswalk setup at Fulton and West. It would be nice to walk out of the main entrance of Brookfield Place and be able to walk to Greenwich St avoiding the horrible pedestrian pinch point on the north side of 1WTC. Also, the crosswalk on the south side of Vesey and West. In the morning, huge masses of people are all over that intersection, crossing over to Brookfield, while traffic is turning from Vesey to West. I'm surprised that no one has been hit and injured on that corner.
I think once the concourse is opened up toward the PATH and the Oculus, that can be done underground quite well, but yes, we always ask ourselves, what is taking so long with the Brookfield plaza??? That would be so beneficial to them, one would think...
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Old June 25th, 2015, 07:37 PM   #6219
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Should allow for some great up-close photos of the hub now.
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Old June 25th, 2015, 09:08 PM   #6220
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Maybe they see it as they have time until BNYM moves.
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