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Old November 21st, 2015, 07:05 PM   #6701
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My understanding was that the only vehicles that would be allowed into the underground complex were buses and delivery vehicles. I'm sure there will be exceptions but I didn't think it they would be any regular vehicular parking allowed.
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Old November 21st, 2015, 07:07 PM   #6702
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I'm guessing that no there quite old drawings of the underground areas since they still call 1WTC Freedom Tower in them. Also I didn't think that any car parking was going to be available as part of the underground complex for security reasons. Those drawings certainly shows several areas that are designated for car parking.
The rename was done during construction so all underground plans were done already.
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Old November 23rd, 2015, 09:38 AM   #6703
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Old November 23rd, 2015, 10:41 AM   #6704
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Old November 23rd, 2015, 03:28 PM   #6705
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The gap in the skylight paneling has been filled-in

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Old November 23rd, 2015, 10:21 PM   #6706
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What should be connected to all these frames?
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Old November 24th, 2015, 01:25 AM   #6707
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What should be connected to all these frames?
I've been wondering the same thing for some time? Anybody know? And also what's with those panels at the lower right that appear to be damaged?
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Old November 24th, 2015, 03:10 AM   #6708
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Those panels are not damaged, that is the protective wrap around them that they need to pull out. As for the marked pointy things the should be the base for the last pieces to "frame" the skylight... This frame will connect with the east and west portals...
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Old November 24th, 2015, 03:53 AM   #6709
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Those panels are not damaged, that is the protective wrap around them that they need to pull out. As for the marked pointy things the should be the base for the last pieces to "frame" the skylight... This frame will connect with the east and west portals...
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Old November 24th, 2015, 04:16 AM   #6710
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The OCD in me can't handle the shoddy construction shown in this photo.
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Old November 24th, 2015, 06:30 AM   #6711
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People have said that the interior of the WTC Transportation Hub reminds them of bones. I've never totally seen it until today, but dang, that looks like a rib cage from the inside. by Augie Ray, on Flickr



A new section of the WTC Transportation Hub has been revealed. This is the spine over the PATH platforms. by Augie Ray, on Flickr



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Old November 25th, 2015, 10:48 AM   #6712
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Old November 25th, 2015, 08:51 PM   #6713
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Old November 27th, 2015, 12:13 PM   #6714
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Old November 30th, 2015, 03:01 AM   #6715
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The OCD in me can't handle the shoddy construction shown in this photo.
What's so shoddy about it?
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Old November 30th, 2015, 07:42 PM   #6716
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He might be talking about a slight misalignment. More evident in the fourth element in these two shots.

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Old November 30th, 2015, 09:40 PM   #6717
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Exactly, the structural elements are misaligned and/or the wrong shape. Perhaps "shoddy construction" isn't the best term for describing this though. I'll grant that this was not an easy structure to build.

However I can think of no other iconic buildings, other than the leaning tower of Pisa, that is so eye-catchingly imperfect. There are likely other iconic buildings that exhibit flaws but this is the only one that catches my eye every time I see it. Some people don't pick upon the flaws or don't care. But there are a large number of people that can't help but notice irregular spacing and misalignments at first glance. Not sure if that is a blessing or a curse.

Is this too harsh an assessment or not worth the nit-picking? Consider that 2500 years ago the Greeks built the Parthenon with non parallel lines and irregular spacing simply to make the lines look parallel and with equal spacing. Not only did they get the look correct, they had to construct it "wrong" to do so. They were anticipating known optical illusions. Meanwhile, 2500 years later with computers and cranes, we've got an obvious flaw in the capstone of a multi-billion dollar project.

This page is rather primitive but does touch on the perspective tricks built into the Parthenon.
http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/.../parthenon.htm
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Old November 30th, 2015, 09:43 PM   #6718
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Are those imperfections very noticable from the ground level ?
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Old November 30th, 2015, 10:03 PM   #6719
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Are those imperfections very noticable from the ground level ?
They are visible from ground level. "Noticeable" is a subjective judgement. Some people will notice and some people won't.

This will be a frequently photographed building. Many tourists visiting the WTC will go home with photos showing uneven spacing.
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Old December 1st, 2015, 06:52 AM   #6720
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I don't think the spacing is as bad as the interior ribs/columns having a stucco-like finish vs. being smooth
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