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Old February 18th, 2016, 01:18 AM   #6881
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Old February 19th, 2016, 12:13 AM   #6882
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Old February 19th, 2016, 10:35 AM   #6883
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that's what i meant that is missing to install. well, still some more pieces to go.

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Old February 19th, 2016, 09:48 PM   #6884
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Old February 19th, 2016, 11:31 PM   #6885
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2530867

Looks like the connection to Fulton Stn, T2, and T4 are not included in the early March opening. Maybe in May on the anniversary of the date they were to open in 2015?
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Old February 20th, 2016, 12:17 AM   #6886
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Looks like the connection to Fulton Stn, T2, and T4 are not included in the early March opening.
I don't see anything that suggests that is the case in the article. I assume the "phased opening" drawing simply shows areas that will be open in March in yellow, and the rest in grey.

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Old February 20th, 2016, 08:29 PM   #6887
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Old February 23rd, 2016, 09:18 PM   #6888
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Old February 23rd, 2016, 10:00 PM   #6889
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Looks like a low fanfare opening:

http://gothamist.com/2016/02/23/live_and_learn.php
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Old February 24th, 2016, 07:52 AM   #6890
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Old February 24th, 2016, 10:27 AM   #6891
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According to the CBS report the Port Authority has no budget for a ribbon cutting ceremony?! What a shame. This structure deserves to be properly "Revealed".
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Old February 24th, 2016, 01:24 PM   #6892
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The public probably believes the cost overrun is a result of extravagant design or construction mistakes. They probably don't realize that politics out of the port authority's control played a larger role. Opening the memorial early costed hundreds of millions of dollars extra. Also, it is hard to fault everyone for not completely predicting the complexity of construction at ground zero, with live subway lines needing to remain active while suspended in mid air in the middle of a construction site.


I do think it cost more than is justified. Although I'm not sure how costs could have been cut much. The above ground structure could have been simplified. And the memorial could have been delayed. But if the structure was simplified, what would that mean? Would we have spent over 3 billion on something that brings the city down rather than attracts visitors? We'd have an expensive hub which wouldn't enrich the day of of everyone passing through it.
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Old February 24th, 2016, 02:00 PM   #6893
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A ribbon cutting ceremony isn't that expensive. They just don't think it's fitting with all the huge budget overruns.
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Old February 24th, 2016, 02:00 PM   #6894
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According to the CBS report the Port Authority has no budget for a ribbon cutting ceremony?! What a shame. This structure deserves to be properly "Revealed".
I think it would deserve a ribbon cutting ceremony if complete, but there will still be a lot of construction left to do after it "opens"
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Old February 24th, 2016, 03:12 PM   #6895
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That "report" makes it seem like just the dome itself cost 4 billion dollars, conveniently forgetting about, you know, the rest of the hub.
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Old February 24th, 2016, 09:50 PM   #6896
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According to the CBS report the Port Authority has no budget for a ribbon cutting ceremony?! What a shame. This structure deserves to be properly "Revealed".
I think they have passed on a ceremony based on optics more than real budget constraints. Pat Foye, outgoing head of the PA, seems to want to distance himself from the project.

I saw the opening ceremony when the west side passage opened a few years ago, and there was much over the top self congratulating at that event, which is really just for a hallway.
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Old February 24th, 2016, 10:59 PM   #6897
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The public probably believes the cost overrun is a result of extravagant design or construction mistakes. They probably don't realize that politics out of the port authority's control played a larger role. Opening the memorial early costed hundreds of millions of dollars extra. Also, it is hard to fault everyone for not completely predicting the complexity of construction at ground zero, with live subway lines needing to remain active while suspended in mid air in the middle of a construction site.


I do think it cost more than is justified. Although I'm not sure how costs could have been cut much. The above ground structure could have been simplified. And the memorial could have been delayed. But if the structure was simplified, what would that mean? Would we have spent over 3 billion on something that brings the city down rather than attracts visitors? We'd have an expensive hub which wouldn't enrich the day of of everyone passing through it.
Most of the extra costs are from the Port Authority and the NYPD being paranoid. Double the ribs for the oculus, lengthy delays to investigate costs and redesign which lead to problems reschuduling everything, higher material and labor costs, and the investigation costs to hire people to look at every single detail and ensure that the contract process was done fairly for every single item yet again. Someone could have gotten a free dinner in exchange for a contract to provide the cleaning spray bottles.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 08:09 AM   #6898
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It appears as though only t4 will open. I wonder when the rest will open.
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Old February 25th, 2016, 10:24 AM   #6899
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Old February 25th, 2016, 03:25 PM   #6900
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Sadly, there has been a large rolling bin parked in the middle of the West Side passage, in the section under West St. to catch water leaking through the ceiling. Made me think of what La Guardia is like on a rainy day. :-(
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