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Old July 23rd, 2016, 09:58 AM   #7321
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Old July 26th, 2016, 09:59 AM   #7322
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Old July 26th, 2016, 04:14 PM   #7323
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I have a question to specialists. I understand why marble was chosen for the floor and stairs. But I also understand that marble is known to be soft and porous, i.e. being prone to chips, cracks and stains. Walking across the Oculus daily, I can already see significant chips and stains. So the question: do you know how are they going to maintain the stone? I can't imagine - by constantly replacing the affected pieces.
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Old July 27th, 2016, 05:57 PM   #7324
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Does anyone know, will the mezzanine that connects to 1 WTC go over top of the 1 train to connect to the mezzanine in the oculus, or does it have to go under and back up again?
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Old July 27th, 2016, 08:19 PM   #7325
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Does anyone know, will the mezzanine that connects to 1 WTC go over top of the 1 train to connect to the mezzanine in the oculus, or does it have to go under and back up again?
The connection is already there, it's at the same level as the main oculus floor and it passes under the subway box. Until they recently opened the connection through the main PATH mezzanine to the West Passageway, that was how you had to go to get to the WFC.
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Old July 27th, 2016, 08:43 PM   #7326
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Does anyone know, will the mezzanine that connects to 1 WTC go over top of the 1 train to connect to the mezzanine in the oculus, or does it have to go under and back up again?
It's a good question. No offense to anyone, but I don't think it was just answered. It'll be interesting if someone can answer it.
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Old July 27th, 2016, 09:30 PM   #7327
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Does anyone know, will the mezzanine that connects to 1 WTC go over top of the 1 train to connect to the mezzanine in the oculus, or does it have to go under and back up again?
No, you'd have to go back down first.
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Old July 29th, 2016, 06:34 PM   #7328
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No, you'd have to go back down first.
They've taken a few construction barriers down (above the PATH/Metrocard machines) and its clearer to see that yes, you have to dip under the 1 train and go back up to the oculus mezzanine.
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Old July 29th, 2016, 10:41 PM   #7329
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They've taken a few construction barriers down (above the PATH/Metrocard machines) and its clearer to see that yes, you have to dip under the 1 train and go back up to the oculus mezzanine.
Naturally. There's no other physically possible way to do it, since the IRT line sits just below street level.

Speaking of questions, no one has thus far been able to answer definitively the question of where the in-mall access points to the southbound (1) platform will be. My suspicion is that there is at least one sitting directly beneath the suspended tracks on the north side, but is there really only one?

I also assume that the secondary IND (E) access point will connect to the C1M level under 2WTC (the original primary one connecting to level C1 proper), but I haven't seen this definitively confirmed either.
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Old July 30th, 2016, 01:55 AM   #7330
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I have a question to specialists. I understand why marble was chosen for the floor and stairs. But I also understand that marble is known to be soft and porous, i.e. being prone to chips, cracks and stains. Walking across the Oculus daily, I can already see significant chips and stains. So the question: do you know how are they going to maintain the stone? I can't imagine - by constantly replacing the affected pieces.
The Pantheon's marble floor is fine after nearly 2000 years.

Granted, it isn't intended to be a pure white space. But I really don't think it will be an issue. The marble will age but still be white marble.

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Old July 31st, 2016, 09:18 AM   #7331
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The Pantheonīs marble floor... it is sooo... you can not compare, thickness, quality and of course the number of times it has been restored. not to say you can not step...
Europe spends millions of euros alone in restoring ancient monuments, Spain, Italy, Greece, France ... But I think for new buildings sustainability and easy maintenance must to be requested
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Old July 31st, 2016, 10:10 AM   #7332
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Does anyone know, will the mezzanine that connects to 1 WTC go over top of the 1 train to connect to the mezzanine in the oculus, or does it have to go under and back up again?
If you go over the 1, you'll be pretty much at street level.
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The Pantheonīs marble floor... it is sooo... you can not compare, thickness, quality and of course the number of times it has been restored. not to say you can not step...
Europe spends millions of euros alone in restoring ancient monuments, Spain, Italy, Greece, France ... But I think for new buildings sustainability and easy maintenance must to be requested
Also, we have different "tolerance" to imperfection when talking about old and new buildings. I already see significant chips on the stairs that might become public risk if not fixed. Are they going to allocate a (significant) budget for that?
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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:37 PM   #7334
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Also, we have different "tolerance" to imperfection when talking about old and new buildings. I already see significant chips on the stairs that might become public risk if not fixed. Are they going to allocate a (significant) budget for that?
With older buildings, we're amazed that they've lasted so long. With newer buildings, we're disgusted that they wore out, as like what happened with Penn Station.

Disgustingly, the best concept to bring in here is the idea of "Ruin Value", a Nazi architectural idea that said that buildings should still be beautiful even when they fall into ruin 1000 years in the future.

Now I feel really dirty. Please excuse me while I go to the Mikvah (Jewish ritual bath).
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Old August 3rd, 2016, 03:48 PM   #7335
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So when will they start with the demolition of the temporary PATH station? What are they waiting for?
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Old August 3rd, 2016, 06:07 PM   #7336
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So when will they start with the demolition of the temporary PATH station? What are they waiting for?
I bet dismantling of the escalators alone will take a long time.
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Old August 5th, 2016, 12:50 AM   #7337
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What are we seeing erected on the plaza area next to Church St? Lamp posts? From the webcam view they look quite tall, but it can sometimes be deceiving.
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Old August 5th, 2016, 03:15 PM   #7338
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What are we seeing erected on the plaza area next to Church St? Lamp posts? From the webcam view they look quite tall, but it can sometimes be deceiving.
I think they recently installed bollards
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Old August 5th, 2016, 05:20 PM   #7339
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Looks to me like they could be flag poles.
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Old August 5th, 2016, 05:57 PM   #7340
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I saw those too, I'm wondering what they are
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