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Old July 30th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #1161
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Old July 31st, 2012, 12:29 AM   #1162
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The amount of rebar going into the top deck is amazing. I wonder if the south side will get the same treatment, or if this side is far more protected to allow for Fulton Street to be built there. [was it printed somewhere that Fulton will be pedestrian only?]
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Old July 31st, 2012, 01:03 AM   #1163
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In the renders, there were cars on this street.
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Old July 31st, 2012, 01:49 AM   #1164
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I thought I read in the NYPD and port authority security PDF that Fulton would be pedestrian only with the new plan, but I don't see why that would benefit anyone. Maybe I'm thinking of Dey Street instead.
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Old July 31st, 2012, 05:24 PM   #1165
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Usually steel uderstructure would follow the roadway

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In the renders, there were cars on this street.

I agree that in the renders cars and a street were shown. However, the steel deck does not seem to be designed for a road rather a two tiered plaza with steps. It seems like a waste of public space if you put the road back in and just keep it closed. I assume there is something in the steel understructure that I do not understand.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 03:39 PM   #1166
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In Otie's transit hub model, the sidewalk and street level are well above the level of the slab we are looking at. I imagine that he has done the research and would know more than us. Street or no street, the top-most slab will have to connect to the sidewalks and street. The unloading dock for the Hub is raised a few feet above the current slab, as is the concrete in the left lower corner of Otie's last picture.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 06:18 PM   #1167
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Drawing released by the Port Authority / Redevelopment Subcommittee Documents


Sorry for the pixeled image, I can only show you what the PA has made public. The current Master Plan documents (released October 1st, 2010) show indeed Fulton St. as an open street, with crosswalks and everything.

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Old August 2nd, 2012, 06:40 PM   #1168
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I agree that in the renders cars and a street were shown. However, the steel deck does not seem to be designed for a road rather a two tiered plaza with steps. It seems like a waste of public space if you put the road back in and just keep it closed. I assume there is something in the steel understructure that I do not understand.
The roads won't be closed per se. But you'll need special passes to drive through Greenwich, Fulton, Liberty, etc. Those passes are reserved for regular tour busses, office tenant's black cars (limo's), and so on. Personal cars won't be allowed through the WTC site.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 08:55 AM   #1169
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Otie, in the diagram you posted above, the sides aren't going to be that different are they? That would look so silly! Isn't it going to be like: almost flipped on both sides, so one side is long and goes small, then the other?
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Yes, one side will be much longer than the others, though I never realized it was THAT much longer. Also we are looking at a parallel perspective from the middle of the hub. each side is longer on one end and shorter on the other, the longest flying ribs of each side [I hope you understand] are diagonal from each other. In other words, we are looking at the end that decreases in size as it reaches the entrance on the Right [smallest at the furthest visible flying rib] and the opposite on the right. There is a great dbox render showing it, I will edit this post or post below it once I find it on this thread. It shows what I mean.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 04:24 PM   #1171
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This works for my explanation [thanks Otie for making this]. Imagine that we are looking at the diagram from the same side as we view this render, but from the middle.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 02:47 AM   #1172
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Old August 4th, 2012, 03:27 AM   #1173
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Old August 4th, 2012, 03:38 AM   #1174
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And why not? A test render

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Old August 4th, 2012, 03:51 AM   #1175
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This will look so amazing. I wonder when the first dome columns will appear?
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Yes, one side will be much longer than the others, though I never realized it was THAT much longer. Also we are looking at a parallel perspective from the middle of the hub. each side is longer on one end and shorter on the other, the longest flying ribs of each side [I hope you understand] are diagonal from each other. In other words, we are looking at the end that decreases in size as it reaches the entrance on the Right [smallest at the furthest visible flying rib] and the opposite on the right. There is a great dbox render showing it, I will edit this post or post below it once I find it on this thread. It shows what I mean.
Yes I understand That will look great! I thought that that was going to be the case.
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Old August 4th, 2012, 04:51 AM   #1177
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One of the wings will be reeeaally close to the WTC3. Will be nice how they will work it out...what goes up first/how they gonna do the liftings and such.
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Old August 6th, 2012, 06:23 PM   #1178
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looks like they are pouring the grade level NE area today.
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Old August 7th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #1179
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That section has now been poured.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 02:23 AM   #1180
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