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Old May 7th, 2010, 02:16 AM   #101
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When I told him that CZ and SK are the only countries throughout Europe where the color of this sign and background colour of signs on motorways does not correspond, he just replied "so what? is it any issue?"
... and there I was thinking it was a conspiracy when in fact it was a historical ****-up!
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Old May 8th, 2010, 01:07 PM   #102
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I always thought the Czech and Slovak motorways signs were blue so that they match color with other signs, for example the Parking sign.
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Old May 8th, 2010, 07:06 PM   #103
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The exit ramp itself doesn't count as being motorway? :O

Here, the exit ramp counts as being part of the motorway, because we want people to keep their speed (110/130 km/h) until they have entered the off ramp. I could imagine that in France, people would brake on the motorway itself in order to abide the low speed limit on the off ramp.
I think in this particuliar case they put the exit sign here because it's not exactly an off-ramp but an interchange with an expressway, so right after the turn you have an expressway entrance symbol (similar to the one I have posted before).

Anyway the ramp starts well before the exit sign (you can see the green divider on the left), and like on any ramp in France, you first have a '90' sign as you enter it, then a '70' sign so that you can progressively decrease your speed.
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Old May 11th, 2010, 02:15 PM   #104
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These are the signs used in Lithuania. I think the motorway sign design closely resembles ones used in Switzerland.



End of motorway



How it looks in reality
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End of motorway:
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Old May 11th, 2010, 04:00 PM   #105
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AFAIK, green was supposed to be the european standard color.

They managed to implement it in a lot of countries, but some refused to change, and still do.
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Old May 11th, 2010, 04:06 PM   #106
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AFAIK, green was supposed to be the european standard color.

They managed to implement it in a lot of countries, but some refused to change, and still do.
Was there such an intention? I was always wondering why some countries use blue for motorways and green for other roads while in other countries it's the other way around.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 01:53 AM   #107
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According to the Vienna convention, "Special regulation signs" should have either blue or white background. The motorway sign is in this class, but there is an exception for motorway signs allowing them to be green as well as blue. Likewise, "Direction, position or indication signs" on motorways are allowed to be both green and blue. Hence, I am not sure where the idea comes from that the standard is green. The standard is green or blue, and if anything, blue is more "standard" than green, as it follows the main rule for "Special regulation signs".

Full Vienna Convention on Road Signs and Signals: http://www.unece.org/trans/conventn/signalse.pdf

Oh, by the way, here are the Norwegian variants:
Motorway:

Expressway/Schnellstrasse="Gelbe Autobahn"?/Motortrafikkvei:


How widespread is the use of the latter signs, btw?
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Old May 15th, 2010, 01:02 AM   #108
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But this is from Switzerland.
Not Italy ?
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Old May 15th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #109
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Not Italy ?
no, italian is way different. (don't pay attention on colour, green are the same)

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Old May 15th, 2010, 01:36 PM   #110
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Old May 15th, 2010, 08:58 PM   #111
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no, italian is way different. (don't pay attention on colour, green are the same)

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And typical for Italy is the size. They are always very big. They are much bigger than they are in most other European countries
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Never heard of a "crippled" motorway symbol before!!

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Old June 12th, 2010, 09:58 AM   #113
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Oh, that's us. We make a distinction between a "double-carriageway freeway" and a "single-carriageway freeway" (which no-one else would call a freeway), and our freeway signage reflects this. (That's the Rustenburg bypass if I'm not mistaken?)
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Old June 12th, 2010, 11:16 PM   #114
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Spain also had the crippled motorway symbol for vías rápidas. I think I read somewhere it was going to be phased out.
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Spain also had the crippled motorway symbol for vías rápidas. I think I read somewhere it was going to be phased out.
doesn't it look like sign for Autovia, but only with 1+1 road drawn?
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Old June 13th, 2010, 03:41 AM   #116
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Oh, that's us. We make a distinction between a "double-carriageway freeway" and a "single-carriageway freeway" (which no-one else would call a freeway), and our freeway signage reflects this. (That's the Rustenburg bypass if I'm not mistaken?)
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Old June 14th, 2010, 03:37 PM   #117
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Oh, that's us. We make a distinction between a "double-carriageway freeway" and a "single-carriageway freeway" (which no-one else would call a freeway), and our freeway signage reflects this. (That's the Rustenburg bypass if I'm not mistaken?)

It's quite the same in Finland. Besides normal motorways (moottoritie), we have "motor traffic roads" (moottoriliikennetie). They are just like motorways, but with just one carriageway. In the 80's, over 200 km were built, but most of them have since been reconstructed to full-scale motorways. They were never very safe, and also traffic volumes grew so high that motorways were necessary.

The "motor traffic road" is signed like this. Thus it's a Finnish version for "expressway":
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nnetie_563.svg

On the other hand, dual carriageways that are not motorways have no expressway status, even though many of them very much resemble proper motorways.

And this is the Finnish motorway sign:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...oritie-561.svg
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Old June 14th, 2010, 03:47 PM   #118
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Spain also had the crippled motorway symbol for vías rápidas. I think I read somewhere it was going to be phased out.
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Old June 15th, 2010, 11:42 AM   #119
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How old is that picture? This sign should be phased out now
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Old June 15th, 2010, 12:01 PM   #120
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I noticed these in California and I quite like them, I think the European ones are rather dull (I like words ):



Does anyone know what they use in other states? Is there a website with an overview some where? What about Texas and NY?
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