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Old June 15th, 2010, 05:11 PM   #121
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I noticed these in California and I quite like them, I think the European ones are rather dull (I like words ):



Does anyone know what they use in other states? Is there a website with an overview some where? What about Texas and NY?
It varies (don't know about Texas and New York specifically, but it varies from state to state). In Pennsylvania, you just get a "Passenger Vehicles Only" at on-ramps, and at points where a road you're on upgrades to expressway/freeway. In New Jersey, at entrances to the Garden State Parkway, you'll see signs with the Parkway logo and restrictions - "NO commercial vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians...." and also "Toll Road" except on the stretches that are free.

As far as a website, a month or two back - on this thread, I think - I posted an American example. It wasn't easy to find, and I don't remember where I finally found it. So, the short answer is I didn't come across a site showing examples of freeway-entrance signage from all states. They may not be as significant here as they are in Europe (where seeing the motorway symbol tells you things like "the speed limit from this point is X"). But I suppose you could research each state individually and come up with most of them....

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Old July 6th, 2010, 06:28 PM   #122
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Old July 6th, 2010, 07:32 PM   #123
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In New Jersey, at entrances to the Garden State Parkway, you'll see signs with the Parkway logo and restrictions - "NO commercial vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians...." and also "Toll Road" except on the stretches that are free.
Virginia also just lists a bunch of forbidden vehicles on the interstates.

"Except on the stretches that are free"??? What the hell?! If "free roads" are the EXCEPTION then i'll probably never bother driving through New Jersey. There is ONE toll road in Virginia with ONE toll booth and thankfully it's nowhere near any place I drive very often.
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Old July 6th, 2010, 07:43 PM   #124
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Virginia also just lists a bunch of forbidden vehicles on the interstates.

"Except on the stretches that are free"??? What the hell?! If "free roads" are the EXCEPTION then i'll probably never bother driving through New Jersey. There is ONE toll road in Virginia with ONE toll booth and thankfully it's nowhere near any place I drive very often.
Except on the stretches OF THE GARDEN STATE PARKWAY that were built before a toll-road authority was created to finish it. Sheesh.
But speaking as a native New Jerseyan, you're perfectly welcome to stay out of the state. In fact, y'all can even commit treason en masse again if you so desire. I'm guessing this time, no one will shed any blood to keep you. :-P

EDIT: And also, aren't there two toll roads in Virginia? 267 and the Greenway? (Granted, they line up....) If memory serves, they're not cheap. And I'm old enough to have paid tolls on the Richmond-Petersburg Turnpike and the Virginia Beach Expressway. In fact, aren't there quite a few, albeit short, toll roads in the Richmond area?

EDIT 2: For your perusal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...ds_in_Virginia
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Old July 6th, 2010, 09:23 PM   #125
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Oh yeah, forgot about the Dulles toll road... And the bridges... Jeez, I oughta get around more!

And for the record, the toll at the only one which I'd thought of earlier is a dollar per motorcycle, two dollars per car, and $1 per axle on larger vehicles. How does that compare to NJ tolls?

And as for repeated secession, um, doubtful. Things would have to be a lot worse than they are now for that to happen again. Take a quick look at my avatar and then back on topic!
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Old July 6th, 2010, 09:46 PM   #126
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Oh yeah, forgot about the Dulles toll road... And the bridges... Jeez, I oughta get around more!

And for the record, the toll at the only one which I'd thought of earlier is a dollar per motorcycle, two dollars per car, and $1 per axle on larger vehicles. How does that compare to NJ tolls?

And as for repeated secession, um, doubtful. Things would have to be a lot worse than they are now for that to happen again. Take a quick look at my avatar and then back on topic!
Which road were you thinking of? I assumed you meant 267. (Since you're apparently in Arlington?) I'm toll-averse myself, but what can you do....

The Garden State Parkway is a bit over 170 miles long. The oldest 20 miles were built by the state in the late 40s and remain unnumbered state highways. The rest was* built and run by the New Jersey Highway Authority. There are barriers every 15 or 20 miles, where when I was first driving (late 80s/early 90s) you paid 25 cents. Presumably higher now. There are also ramp tolls (which used to be 25 cents or less), placed at certain on- and off-ramps so that if you'd miss a barrier you'd have to pay.

The New Jersey Turnpike is a toll road of the ticketed type - take a ticket when you enter and when you pay turn it in with the toll for the distance you traveled. (If you're paying cash - E-ZPass is used too.) The ticket tells you what the rate is to each exit from the point you entered, and tells the attendant at your exit where you got on (and the rate). Might be 130 miles, including extensions. As a very rough guess, I'd imagine it's something short of $10 to travel the whole thing.

The Atlantic City Expressway is a toll road about 40 miles long, connecting Atlantic City (obviously) to the Philadelphia suburbs. I've hardly ever been on it, but there's a barrier halfway along that Philadelphia traffic reports used to refer to as the "two-dollar toll." I think it may be $3.00 now. There may be ramp tolls for people who'll miss the barrier.

All New-Jersey-to-New-York bridges and tunnels are tolled, and expensive. Most bridges across the Delaware (to Pennsylvania or Delaware) are tolled, but you get north of Trenton and the river narrows; some bridges up there (mostly on back roads but including the one on I-95, until they rebuild it) are free.

Toll roads (as you must know, but others may not) are common in the Northeast and as far west as the Chicago area, mostly because those states were starting to build expressways/freeways before the Interstate funding became available.

But most Interstate mileage in New Jersey is in fact free. :-) I-295 even runs parallel to the Turnpike - so close you can see one from the other in places - for more than 50 miles. I rarely need to use toll roads. For expensive tolls, the Pennsylvania Turnpike will cost you $25 or more end to end....

*I think all three New Jersey toll roads - which used to be run by separate authorities - are under the Turnpike Authority now. Don't have time to verify this information now.

I've seen your avatar, and your signature. "Yankees and foreigners," indeed. :-P
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Old July 6th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #127
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I haven't been living in Arlington very long - I just moved here from Roanoke on June 1 -so I don't know my way around the DC area very well, except by tube - I can get around well enough with the metro, but not on roads.

But it's good to hear that there are only 3 main toll roads in NJ...

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Old July 6th, 2010, 09:57 PM   #128
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WThe New Jersey Turnpike is a toll road of the ticketed type - take a ticket when you enter and when you pay turn it in with the toll for the distance you traveled. (If you're paying cash - E-ZPass is used too.) The ticket tells you what the rate is to each exit from the point you entered, and tells the attendant at your exit where you got on (and the rate). Might be 130 miles, including extensions. As a very rough guess, I'd imagine it's something short of $10 to travel the whole thing.
Having recently escaped from Roanoke, I'm now mobile enough that I've now discovered that many parking garages use a similar system to that - push a button to get a ticket when you enter, go do your thing, and then cough up when you leave. I typically set the dollar ($1 for up to 3 hours parking) aside when I park and then have it ready and isolated with the ticket when I leave the garage.
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Old November 13th, 2010, 07:44 PM   #129
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Here is Wisconsin's Freeway entrance sign:

Found at the beginning of all limited access freeway entrance ramps.
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Old November 13th, 2010, 10:35 PM   #130
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Old November 14th, 2010, 03:10 PM   #131
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Here is Wisconsin's Freeway entrance sign:

Found at the beginning of all limited access freeway entrance ramps.
That's a lot of text Why not replace it with: Motorway entrance. And people should learn in there theoratical exam that motorway way means all the things the sign says ...

I mean the European signs are so simple an yet everyone knows what it means and what are the rules...


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No L-drivers? Meaning that continental cars were not allowed?
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L-driv·er (plural L-driv·ers)


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U.K. student driver: somebody who is learning to drive
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I didn't know that. I assumed it was something like left-side drivers...
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Old February 1st, 2011, 05:53 PM   #135
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That's a lot of text Why not replace it with: Motorway entrance. And people should learn in there theoratical exam that motorway way means all the things the sign says ...

I mean the European signs are so simple an yet everyone knows what it means and what are the rules...


Well, it wouldn't be "motorway" here.... ;-)

Garden State Parkway signs say all that in symbols (figure of a pedestrian in a red circle with a line across it, that sort of thing).

And most of those restrictions don't apply to drivers anyway.
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I didn't know that. I assumed it was something like left-side drivers...
Or drivers from Luxembourg!
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An old UK entrance sign:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5405255902/ (sharing is disabled by the owner)

Does anyone know what the little symbol next to "Motorway" is? Is it an older/different version of the motorway symbol?
Do you know how old that sign is?
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The motorway/freeway symbol is rare in Australia.

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There are some interesting pictures there!
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That's a lot of text Why not replace it with: Motorway entrance. And people should learn in there theoratical exam that motorway way means all the things the sign says ...

I mean the European signs are so simple an yet everyone knows what it means and what are the rules...


What that sign communicates to me is "Hey, idiot, you are currently driving on a divided limited-access highway. You are not expected to notice that yourself."
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