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Old December 8th, 2011, 06:40 PM   #3101
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Old December 8th, 2011, 06:45 PM   #3103
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Well, there is no doubt, in every crisis Malayalees must stand united.... As said, we might divide into 300 states and fight each other, when nothing looms over our heads.... But on the very day, an external attack happens, we come forward and stand united... History has several examples and I am not repeating it again....

Today Kerala is united over a real fear, which is not any Internet-Church-Political party induced for any gains, but over a cause which is real and in front of our eyes.....

Forget the fact, 3 districts going to washed... That happens only if Idukki blasts down, which is 50:50 chance.....

But even if Idukki remains strong and hold the waters of Mullaperiyar dam if the latter breaks, still Malayalees will unite and fight for it.... We cannot ignore the lives of those 75000 people living between Mullaperiyar and Idukki area.... We cannot allow, the most beautiful district- Idukki going under waters..... We will not say, since out of 75000 lives going to affected first, consists more of Tamilians than Malayalees, we will ignore....

Losing life is equally painful, whether its Malayalaee or Tamil or Bengali.... We are standing united for safety of each and every one living downstream to Dam, not a Malayalee vs Tami, Central Kerala vs South TN or Jayalaitha vs Ommen Chandy etc.........

Its lives first and we stand united for safety of even one life not to be affected due to break of an age old dam......
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Old December 8th, 2011, 06:58 PM   #3105
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I dont think that rest of Kerala is not doing anything for MP issue, Both the face book groups from kozhikode, Kozhikodanz and Nammude kozhikode are campaigning for MP issue.
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I dont think that rest of Kerala is not doing anything for MP issue.
But people from some parts of Kerala is spreading the message like that especially in SNSs.
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മലയാളികക്ക് അറിയാത്ത വേറെ ഒരുപാട് കളികള്* ഈ മുല്ലപെരിയാര്* ഉണ്ട്. തമിഴ്നാടിനു വേണ്ടത് വെള്ളം അല്ല. അവര്*ക്ക് വേണ്ടത് ഇടുക്കി ജില്ല ആണ്. അതിന്റെ തുടക്കം ആണ് മുല്ലപെരിയാര്*. ഇടുക്കിയില്* നടക്കുന്ന എല്ലാ ലാന്*ഡ്* reformation workil തമിള്* പോളിടിസിഅന്*സ് അവരുടെ ആള്*ക്കാരെ തള്ളി കെട്ടാറുണ്ട്. അതുവഴി ഇടുക്കിയില്* ഒരു വോട്ട് ബാങ്ക് ഉണ്ടാക്കി electionil തമിള്* പാര്*ട്ടി വിജയിക്കാന്* ആണ് അവരുടെ തത്രം. ശ്രീലങ്ക പോയപ്പോള്* അവര്* എപ്പോള്* കേരളത്തിനെ ആണ് നോട്ടം.

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Old December 9th, 2011, 09:18 AM   #3115
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മലയാളികക്ക് അറിയാത്ത വേറെ ഒരുപാട് കളികള്* ഈ മുല്ലപെരിയാര്* ഉണ്ട്. തമിഴ്നാടിനു വേണ്ടത് വെള്ളം അല്ല. അവര്*ക്ക് വേണ്ടത് ഇടുക്കി ജില്ല ആണ്. അതിന്റെ തുടക്കം ആണ് മുല്ലപെരിയാര്*. ഇടുക്കിയില്* നടക്കുന്ന എല്ലാ ലാന്*ഡ്* reformation workil തമിള്* പോളിടിസിഅന്*സ് അവരുടെ ആള്*ക്കാരെ തള്ളി കെട്ടാറുണ്ട്. അതുവഴി ഇടുക്കിയില്* ഒരു വോട്ട് ബാങ്ക് ഉണ്ടാക്കി electionil തമിള്* പാര്*ട്ടി വിജയിക്കാന്* ആണ് അവരുടെ തത്രം. ശ്രീലങ്ക പോയപ്പോള്* അവര്* എപ്പോള്* കേരളത്തിനെ ആണ് നോട്ടം.

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ella pathrathilum ethupoleulla news varunnundu. pakshe arum athu nokkunnilla. nammalude national political parties ethu nokkan samayam ella. thamizhanmar keralathine oru lanka akki mattum engane poyal.
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http://www.dailypioneer.com/state-ed...nd-on-dam.html

Well, I happened to see in another thread of SSC, that Experts back AG/MP Cell Chairman's opinions and news being celebrated citing Mullaperiyar as safe....

Well, I am sure, most of the media haven't published the affidavit which Kerala AG and Mullaperiyar Cell Chairman presented at Court....

Since most of the media (read Tamil Media) are celebrating opinions as certification for safety of Mullaperiyar, while Kerala Media citing the negativity is something I feel is like seeing an elephant by the blind....

Well, both the officials were reporting in a court of law, where its not a street talk to tell every dick and harry story as we see politicians or others make on streets.... Its strictly answering to the questions asked by the court...

The AG and MP Chairman didn't submit any detailed affidavit on the said date, rather submitted a brief about the question asked by the court

If the court asks, will Idukki dam will hold water of Mullaperiyar, neither AG nor MP Chairman can say NO or Yes fully, as

1. Break analysis report not prepared by both states
2. Can't predict future course of happenings fully.......

MP Cell chairman M.P Parameswaran Nair said, TODAY the level of Idukki reservoir has brought down to the level, which can absorb waters of Mullaperiyar, which is nothing but plain truth......

He didn't say, he is 100% confident, the dam will withstand the pressure of water + other objects going to strike.... And he cannot merely blabber without submitting an evidence in court of law. If court asked, whether water could be absorbed or not, only that answer can be made..... And he said the same, which is nothing but truth....

But the question, should we Kerala keep the level of Idukki always at less than 54 TMC for the sake of Tamils to store water in Mullaperiyar, so that if the dam breaks, it will absorb forever?

Kerala is going to suffer a major power cut from upcoming summer onwards, as much of our water stored in our dam for the planned production during summer time, have been used now to keep the levels low.... And we cannot do it forever.... We have to sell our water for almost free for TN's agricultural gains and now buy Power from them at high rates, is simply not acceptable to us....

Secondly the details of people going to be affected from Mullaperiyar to Idukki haven't fully furnished.... The AG's report says about 450 families, which is not based on a full fledged stats.... The details needed to be furnished before the court, only when final affidavit needs to submit. The collector of Idukki district says around 75000 people, which also includes people coming from TN, to work in Kerala.... When the dam break, it won't give an alarm first to allow entire Tamils to run out of Idukki to Theni, so that it can break.....

Thirdly, High Court was considering the safety measures, not other details as its not in HC's purview now.....

I am not saying AG has not misrepresented our position... I strongly believe, he has purposefully ignored several valid arguements.... But celebrating one sided news is not a good habit.

Pls consider this message as a reply to some another post........
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Old December 9th, 2011, 01:42 PM   #3118
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http://expressbuzz.com/cities/kochi/...99/341501.html

Well happened to see this report

It seems its a half-good and half bad option atleast for me....

Well I will talk about the positive of this suggestion first

1. It will solve Kerala's Today concern and will allow TN to maintain the dam whether its old or strengthen....

2. It won't change the agreement, which TN fears the most, even at the extreme risk of keeping an unsafe dam

3. Kerala's todays concerns are solved and we can live in peace at the moment

Now Negatives

The major problem of democracy and our system, is that, its not ready to think beyond 5 years of time.... These kind of suggestions happens only in India, as post independence, our planning became only 5 year planning system, which even Russia have stopped the pratice

Whether good or bad, the Britishers planned the dam for 999 years of vision, which means their concept was for a 999 period, irrespective of dam.... Whereas we Indians look only for next 5 year solution

The Main problem of this suggestion is that, It solves today's concerns, but never address potential future concerns

1. Today, the primary and only concern is safety, which doesn't mean, in next 999 years, that remains the only concern..... The basic agreement is one sided and never balanced, which shall always remain a thorn in our flesh, potential for questioning the validity in future.

2. The underlining question is, why should Kerala, share our west-flowing river to be diverted to Eastwards for mere Rs 40,000..... What is the gain of Kerala in sharing resources? TN's agriculture prosperity has nothing to do with Kerala, as long as we purchase these goods on market prices, not any special rates for sharing water resources for cultivation....

3. The agreement is for 999 years, which never going to withstand.... If Kerala and TN is refusing to follow any British Indian Law or agreements made during British times or during Chera-Chola times in past 999 years, we cannot ask our future generations to follow an agreement, made by their pre-ancestors.... This will create potential wars and unrest in future

4. The agreement is based on Kerala's today sitution as we have enough water, hence can spare Periyar's water.... This may not be true, after 100 years.... Hence even if that time, Kerala remains as Indian State, it could potentially develop more stronger unrest, as the agreement is not in favour of one state in the party. You cannot penalize for action of one man in the history for generations forward.....

That would be much similar to condemning 20th century Muslims of India, just for alleged actions of one Barbar of 15th century in Ayodhya case.....

Such actions are potential to create more unsolvable problems in future

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Hence its of best interest for the nation and for both states, to make a permanent solution, than mere cosmetic touch-ups here and there to solve today's issue, keeping the core issue alive for years to come....

A new agreement, with reasonable time frame, protecting both interests, with new dam is final solution for assuring peace in future......
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Imperialism in India left behind many vexatious, intractable and rather insoluble problems.The states and the nation are still struggling to come to terms with them. The ongoing Mullaperiyar Dam controversy exacerbating the relations between Kerala and Tamil Nadu is one of them.

The controversy centres on Kerala’s insistence on reducing the water level in the dam to 120 feet from the present dangerous level of 136 feet along with the construction of a new dam to replace the existing one and Tamil Nadu’s obstinate opposition to both.

The construction of the dam in Kerala in 1895 manned and controlled by the colonial administration in Madras on land leased for 999 years was based on the colonial illusion that British rule in India was for eternity. With the disappearance of British rule, the dam should have also disappeared without allowing it to remain a cause of concern for two neighbouring states in the post-British era.

If the dam did not disappear, it is mainly because India still lacks the spirit of federalism the fostering of which is integral to strengthening its federal polity as envisaged by the Constitution; and much-needed institutional mechanisms to settle inter-state disputes amicably.

As an archaic dam constructed about 116 years ago, Kerala’s apprehension that it would burst any time is well founded and has to be taken as real as no state can afford to wait and watch it crash and then say, oh yes, the threat was real, the dam has crashed. That apart, no state can allow its people to live in a perennial state of fear; and when the dam is perceived as a threat to life and property by an overwhelming section of the population the first thing the state should do is decommission it.

Seen from this perspective, the Kerala government’s approach to solve the problem amicably by ensuring its people’s safety and water to Tamil Nadu is laudable and pragmatic. Chief Minister Oommen Chandy has made it unequivocal that the barren districts in Tamil Nadu that depend on the reservoir would not lose even a single drop of its share even if a proposed dam were to come up.

If the dam controversy has turned violent causing bitterness among hapless people of both states it is mainly because of small-time politicians trying to fish in troubled waters. A case in point is the aggressive postures of Marumalarchi Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam leader Vaiko, who has been waiting for an opportunity to return to political limelight.

Tamil Nadu chief minister J Jayalalithaa has been too good to Kerala. Her good deeds include her gift of an elephant to the Guruvayur temple a few years ago; and her faith in Kerala astrologers, on whose advice she reportedly gifted the elephant and added an ‘a’ at the end of her name. In all probability she would have acted as a real puraitchi thalaivi (revolutionary leader) on the dam controversy had she obtained proper advice on what she should do to prevent an impending dam disaster.

It is not late for Jayalalithaa to act. She should turn the promise of assured water from the new dam into an inter-state deal; she could even walk that extra mile of sharing the cost of the new dam. These will restore peace and harmony in both states, keep the Vaikos away from mischief, and give some sleep to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who is incapable of influencing

Jayalalithaa. All said, the measure of all measures of federalism in a federal polity is how the states get along with and go to the rescue of each other through symbiotic deeds. It is for Jayalalithaa to set the example as Oommen Chandy, her counterpart in Kerala, is desperately waiting for her call.

Contrary to the above, by waiting for the dam disaster, Jayalalithaa will be inviting a political tsunami in Tamil Nadu; for if the dam crashes, apart from bearing the brunt of the whole blame from Kerala, Jayalalithaa will also have to bear the brunt of theblame by thousands of farmers in Tamil Nadu who have been irrigating their lands with water from Mullaperiyar in about 70,000 hectares in five districts, which they may not get any longer, and by opportunistic politicians who are just waiting to unseat her from power.

http://www.dnaindia.com/analysis/com...waters_1623309
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Old December 9th, 2011, 06:23 PM   #3120
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Nice to see Spanish Newspapers report the agitations for Mullaperiyar and the 208 Km Human wall formed yesterday!!!!
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