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Old March 29th, 2013, 08:44 PM   #81
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Glasgow's old 'Underground' logo.


Then the 00s ''SPT Subway'' logo.
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Now the new logo and typeface (Klavika font) which is being introduced.

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Old March 29th, 2013, 08:45 PM   #82
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Agree
It would be nice to use always the "M" for metros, and the "S" for suburban railways, in every european country...
No thank you. It would be silly given the names in different languages often doesn't correspond to such a thing.

T in Stockholm = tunnelbanan.
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Old March 29th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #83
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Stockholms subway/tunnelbana sign:



Honestly, I was wondering why there are such big "toilet" signs used during my first visits in the city. Later it was fun to discover that it is a metro logo.
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Old March 29th, 2013, 09:12 PM   #84
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No thank you. It would be silly given the names in different languages often doesn't correspond to such a thing.

T in Stockholm = tunnelbanan.
I agree. However, it is still quite strange that the logo of pendeltåg (commuter rail system) is a letter J.
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Old March 29th, 2013, 09:23 PM   #85
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I agree. However, it is still quite strange that the logo of pendeltåg (commuter rail system) is a letter J.
Probably for Järnväg? Just guessing on that one.
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Old March 29th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #86
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Probably for Järnväg? Just guessing on that one.
It may be. However, I am not sure about this one, too.
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Old March 29th, 2013, 11:39 PM   #87
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I am a bit biased but Barcelona Metro sign is great, very simple and easy to see from distance, mainly the 3-faced sign:
https://www.google.es/search?q=barce...w=1440&bih=751

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Old March 30th, 2013, 12:24 AM   #88
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Yes, me too. For Example, I wouldn't stand M sign in London or Berlin.. And I guess that people living there would think the same.
A metro line in Berlin (M29)

Moreover, it has stopped by a hospital, you can see the sign "H"

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Old March 30th, 2013, 12:28 AM   #89
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M sign for metro, of course. Instead of the blue U. Not for other things.


H stands for Haltestelle, doesn't it?
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Old March 31st, 2013, 09:55 AM   #90
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M sign for metro, of course. Instead of the blue U. Not for other things.


H stands for Haltestelle, doesn't it?
Yes.

Berlin signs:
U > U-Bahn (Metro)
M >MetroBus or MetroTram (Berlin, 24/7 service)
X > eXpress bus
S > S-Bahn


In Hungary:

M > Metro lines (M1,2,3,4)
H > Suburban Railways (HÉV: H5,6,7,8,9)

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Old March 31st, 2013, 12:15 PM   #91
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Glasgow's old 'Underground' logo.


Then the 00s ''SPT Subway'' logo.
image hosted on flickr


Now the new logo and typeface (Klavika font) which is being introduced.

Why did they call it a subway? Normally in English speaking non-American nations, a 'subway' is just a passage under something like a road or train tracks. Hence the use of Metro and Underground.

Anyway, I really like the Chengdu Metro logo. Chinese cities tend to have pretty bad logos, but this one has a nice aesthetic to it.


(Taken from Wikipedia)

I like the logo for the Valencia Metro too.



The worst logos for me are the Tyne & Wear Metro (it just looks so old and tired, the font is ugly and just sums up 'Thatcher's austerity Britain' to me for some reason, it looks cheap) and the Athens Metro logo, which is just ugly and a mess.

Tyne & Wear:



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And that awful 'M' used by the Moscow metro is ugly too. But there'll never be anything more beautiful and metro related than this, it is art:

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Old March 31st, 2013, 06:23 PM   #92
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Why did they call it a subway? Normally in English speaking non-American nations, a 'subway' is just a passage under something like a road or train tracks. Hence the use of Metro and Underground.
Actually, the Glasgow Subway was the first Metro in the world to be called 'Subway', and it's likely that systems like New York were named 'Subway' due to Scottish influence. Glasgow was, afterall, one of the largest cities in Europe at that time. In Scotland, we tend to use the word 'underpass' for such a passage.


When the Glasgow Corporation took over, and electrified the line, it was renamed the 'Glasgow Underground', but many Glaswegians still referred to it as the 'Subway', so in 2005, the SPT renamed it the Glasgow Subway.
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Old March 31st, 2013, 07:32 PM   #93
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Here in Nova Scotia, a subway is a type of fast food restaurant, so it was weird to visit Toronto and have people use the term for transit.
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Apparently the first Subway store actually opened in a New York subway station, hence the name! It's now the world's largest fast food chain overtaking McDonald's about 5 years ago. Their stores always smell weird too, kinda like fake bread/yeast.
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Old April 1st, 2013, 02:41 AM   #95
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I love the simplicity of the signs I saw in Vienna and Berlin. I like the German way of categorising it's rail.

Vienna:



Berlin:
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Simple and effective. And the distinction between S-Bahn and U-Bahn type systems is very clear in Glasgow, but our urban rail system has no special status, despite being the largest such system outside of London, and despite the fact that it forms a very Metro-like purpose when compared to other cities commuter rail systems. These stations in Glasgow are signposted with the usual rail station sign:


I actually really like the Tyne & Wear Metro sign. It just reminds me of this:
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The ISAP logo is no longer in use, but the STASY logo is so ugly in my opinion.
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Actually, the Glasgow Subway was the first Metro in the world to be called 'Subway', and it's likely that systems like New York were named 'Subway' due to Scottish influence. Glasgow was, afterall, one of the largest cities in Europe at that time. In Scotland, we tend to use the word 'underpass' for such a passage.
Interesting aspect, though it seems debatable which way the word "subway" took. It could as well originate in the US and have come to Glasgow. I would believe like you that it went from Glasgow to the US, but the only etymological reference I could find that goes into enough detail states that "The sense of "underground railway in a city" is first recorded 1893, in reference to Boston." [Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper]

The Boston subway, however, opened 9 months after Glasgow's. Both must have been planning and building at about the same time. Chicago came 4 years before Glasgow, but was elevated and being called "El", not "subway", at least not in the beginning.

Chicago: June 6, 1892,
Glasgow: Dec 14, 1896,
Boston: Sep 1, 1897,
New York: Oct 27, 1904

Is there any other evidence which way the word "subway" took? Could it have come up independently in Glasgow and Boston?
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Interesting aspect, though it seems debatable which way the word "subway" took. It could as well originate in the US and have come to Glasgow. I would believe like you that it went from Glasgow to the US, but the only etymological reference I could find that goes into enough detail states that "The sense of "underground railway in a city" is first recorded 1893, in reference to Boston." [Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2010 Douglas Harper]

The Boston subway, however, opened 9 months after Glasgow's. Both must have been planning and building at about the same time. Chicago came 4 years before Glasgow, but was elevated and being called "El", not "subway", at least not in the beginning.

Chicago: June 6, 1892,
Glasgow: Dec 14, 1896,
Boston: Sep 1, 1897,
New York: Oct 27, 1904

Is there any other evidence which way the word "subway" took? Could it have come up independently in Glasgow and Boston?
There's something to ponder... It was a time when many Scottish people ''left for the new world'', so it's possible that the name took from Scottish engineers. But then again, perhaps ''Subway'' was quite a well used term to describe such future systems at the time, with London being the exception.

Glasgow itself does look very 'American', it's centre is made up of grid streets, and it's sandstone tenements don't look too far removed from similar buildings on the east coast of the US. Glasgow was a very important port for the UK at the time, along with Liverpool, which itself built a similar railway system to Chicago in 1893, the Liverpool Overhead Railway.


There was definitely much cross-influence between these cities and the cities of the east coast.
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Copenhagen S-train










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I don´t have a top 5 but if I made anyone Londons Underground would be on the top.
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Apparently the first Subway store actually opened in a New York subway station, hence the name! It's now the world's largest fast food chain overtaking McDonald's about 5 years ago. Their stores always smell weird too, kinda like fake bread/yeast.
Subway is from Connecticut and the 'sub' in the name comes from the type of sandwich (submarine). It definitely didn't begin in the NYC Subway!
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