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Old May 13th, 2010, 03:46 PM   #1
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MISC | Unusual Metro Stations

have you ever seen or thought about a metro station built out of nowhere·····?
I mean somewhere you can see crops or rice····
here it is·····a farmland modern metro station with a muddy county road connected····
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BTW,it's in China······
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Old May 13th, 2010, 04:04 PM   #2
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I guess this is an area which is going to be intensively developed in the years to come.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 04:21 PM   #3
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the line was completed in 2006,but today,4 years later,nothing changed there·····

the line 4 of Guangzhou metro,which is showed in the pics,costs more than 13 billion RMB(about 2 billion USD),and it continued to lose more since it opened···there's few people using the line,actually,sometimes there’s only one passenger in the train,the driver·····
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Old May 13th, 2010, 04:24 PM   #4
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wait til 2016 and see what the area will look like

Just like when this sightseeing tower was built in the middle of nowhere

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Old May 13th, 2010, 04:39 PM   #5
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China's been overbuilding on infrastructure for years now. The country is obsessed with GDP growth, so it ends up with things like this metro line to nowhere or empty shopping centres or "ghost towns".

What I find funny is that that empty patch of land with absolutely nothing around is better served with PT than most of Sydney, LOL!
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Old May 13th, 2010, 04:58 PM   #6
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yeah that area will going to be developed soon just like some lrt stations built in middle of grassland in sengkang, singapore.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 04:59 PM   #7
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but is it too early to put a messive metro line in the Middle of crops and rice?
WTF is wrong with the planner?it wastes the taxpayers‘ money every day as long as the lonely driver driving his lonely train on the line(it’s actually happening````````)
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Old May 13th, 2010, 07:16 PM   #8
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It was very common for London Underground stations to be built in open countryside specifically with a view to promote development. The first instance was Golders Green in 1907, which was more built out of necessity as the Charing Cross, Euston & Hampstead Railway (now part of the Northern Line) needed to rise above ground somewhere to build its depot, as a consequence a terminus was built in the middle of a field by a crossing between two country tracks.

Within a decade it had become a very wealthy suburb and heavily developed, which gave LT the idea of purposefully driving its lines out into open fields and buying up the land to sell on at a huge profit; the Piccadilly Line Arnos Grove to Cockfosters, Northern Line Golders Green to Edgware, and Jubilee Line to Stanmore were other examples.

So, basically, this is standard development practice, and has been going on for over 100 years.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 07:25 PM   #9
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...Speaking of ridiculous, this takes the biscuit...

Blake Hall station in rural Essex on the now closed Epping-Ongar section of the Central Line. The line was originally built by the Great Eastern Railway, but taken over by LT after WW2. The Green Belt had already been imposed, so there was never going to be any development along the line. Blake Hall closed in 1981 on account of having a grand total of 6 passengers per day, the rest of the line followed in 1994.

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Old May 13th, 2010, 07:26 PM   #10
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too bad many people failed to do some research about that and simply took this as another chance to ridicule China...
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Old May 13th, 2010, 07:40 PM   #11
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but is it too early to put a messive metro line in the Middle of crops and rice?
WTF is wrong with the planner?it wastes the taxpayers‘ money every day as long as the lonely driver driving his lonely train on the line(it’s actually happening````````)
If it is going to be massively developed within the next decade I'd say not. It is of great benefit to build the public transport infrastructure before the rest because otherwise people will get to a higher extend accustomed to using the car instead than they are going to do anyway.

Btw, the highway next to the station does not look to busy either. It seems they are building that traffic infrastructure with future developments in mind and if these developments are really going to take place, it would be madness to construct nowadays infrastructure that would be vastly inadequate already in a few years.
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Old May 13th, 2010, 07:57 PM   #12
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Here in Washington D.C., the last part of the currently-under-construction Silver Line Metro extension will be nearly is bad.

Running it out to Dulles airport, I can see... but then they had to extend it out another two stops deep into exurbia (Loudoun County), where it will just encourage more long-distance commuting and sprawl. Note the boring, non-locality based names uncharacteristic of our metro ("Route 606", "Route 772"). As an aside, I proposed renaming the new stations from "Route 28" to "Sterling South", Route 606 to "Old Ox Road", and "Route 772" to "Ashburn-Broadlands".



I'm wondering if this was done just so WMATA could say: "See, you're getting rail service, too! Now shut up".

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Old May 13th, 2010, 08:01 PM   #13
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As others have said, it is common practice to build metro infrastructure before the actual population may need it. The same was done on the New York metro when it was being built, some stations were built in areas with very little density.

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As others have said, it is common practice to build metro infrastructure before the actual population may need it.
Yeah it's something the idiot planners here in Australia need to learn...
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Interesting way to generate development in some areas, but what a waste of money and natural resources
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:41 AM   #16
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With these kind of investments you need to look at it in spans of decades not years to see if it was really a good idea.
Having said that you also need to keep an eye on economic growth and population growth as well to decide whether those investments are needed.
At the present rate China's economy is following the Japanese bubble economy and may burst any time now.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 07:41 PM   #17
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As others have said, it is common practice to build metro infrastructure before the actual population may need it. The same was done on the New York metro when it was being built, some stations were built in areas with very little density.

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One thing I don't understand is why aren't these stations built when the developments are building? It's not hard to designate space for a future station.
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Old May 17th, 2010, 01:19 AM   #18
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I agree with deasine! The example with what would become eventually London Underground is pretty bad. Those schemes were private enterprises that never turned out to be profitable. Even though it eventually became a great system - no doubt about it. A lot of private money was lost in the process of construction. Many lines were eventually abandoned altogether, because they were redundant. So many lines were just built to compete with other railway companies and not because they were actually needed.

The times of the private entrepreneurs and the gold rush in the public transport business are long over - thank god! Today, the norm is centralized planning. If a public body (some sort of local government) knows, that a certain area is going to be developed within the next ten to twenty years, then they can plan traffic routes ahead. That means corridors can be designated and preparatory works can already begin. But building the entire infrastructure and even more operate it, before there's a single building out there, that's just insane and throwing away tax money. Because there is never ever a guarantee, that the promised development would actually happen, the way it was expected (e.g. financial crisis and so on).
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Old May 17th, 2010, 02:59 AM   #19
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Athens Metro, line 3, Koropi station:

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The times of the private entrepreneurs and the gold rush in the public transport business are long over - thank god! Today, the norm is centralized planning. If a public body (some sort of local government) knows, that a certain area is going to be developed within the next ten to twenty years, then they can plan traffic routes ahead. That means corridors can be designated and preparatory works can already begin. But building the entire infrastructure and even more operate it, before there's a single building out there, that's just insane and throwing away tax money. Because there is never ever a guarantee, that the promised development would actually happen, the way it was expected (e.g. financial crisis and so on).
I believe it depends on which part of the globe you live in.

One of the reasons why they develop in the middle of nowhere is to promote further development.
In already developed areas they use stations as a re-development stimulus to bring back people to a community that is going through what is known as the "Doughnut phenomenon".
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