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Old August 30th, 2011, 11:57 PM   #121
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The next time I'm in the UK, I'll make sure to visit Glasgow.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 01:53 AM   #122
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Thanks guys!

A few more pictures from that day...




A fantastic building, designed by Mackintosh, but impossible to get a good photo of!

































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Old August 31st, 2011, 10:54 AM   #123
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Old August 31st, 2011, 12:18 PM   #124
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Old August 31st, 2011, 03:31 PM   #125
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I have looked at all the pictures on this thread. A fantastic collection of photographs of a beautiful city. I would love to visit one day.
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Old August 31st, 2011, 07:35 PM   #126
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Beautiful city. Was it particularly rich during the Victorian era? The facades are all laid in stone. How many Scots and Englishmen are there for comparison?
Glasgow became rich during the boom of its shipping industry. At its peak, 1/3 of all steel sheeps in the world were manufactured on the Clyde (Glasgows main river). Then the supplies of steel in the area dried up, and the industry moved elsewhere, which caused a decline in Glasgow's fortunes.
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Old September 3rd, 2011, 12:58 AM   #127
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As to the issue of Second City of the Empire - several cities lay claim to this - notably Glasgow, Birmingham and Manchester as already pointed out, however the 'forgotten' Second City is Dublin which also had a claim. During much of the timeline of the Empire it was not only a large and productive city with many fine buildings, it was the only other city claiming the title that was also a capital city.
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Old September 6th, 2011, 12:18 AM   #128
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As to the issue of Second City of the Empire - several cities lay claim to this - notably Glasgow, Birmingham and Manchester as already pointed out, however the 'forgotten' Second City is Dublin which also had a claim. During much of the timeline of the Empire it was not only a large and productive city with many fine buildings, it was the only other city claiming the title that was also a capital city.
Tbh even as a second generation Irish immigrant I wouldn't call Dublin (imo better than Glasgow in looks) the Second City, because it was a colony of the Empire unlike Scottish and English cities. But still, Glasgow has one of the world's best cityscapes, and just as much character as Dublin and London (and much more than Edinburgh :S).
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Old September 9th, 2011, 11:49 PM   #129
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Glasgow: fantastic city.

A sister city to Liverpool - which, actually, WAS the second city of the empire.

Lots of architecture reminiscent of Liverpool - both being great Victorian ports and trade cities.
Glasgow was fortunate not to have been subject to sustained bombing during the 2nd World War, in the way that Liverpool was, and hence it retains more of its fine heritage.
Although, of course, Liverpool is still fabulous.
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Old September 10th, 2011, 01:55 PM   #130
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As to the issue of Second City of the Empire - several cities lay claim to this - notably Glasgow, Birmingham and Manchester as already pointed out, however the 'forgotten' Second City is Dublin which also had a claim. During much of the timeline of the Empire it was not only a large and productive city with many fine buildings, it was the only other city claiming the title that was also a capital city.
But unlike Glasgow, Dublin is not an architecturally grand city. Quite the opposite really.
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Old September 10th, 2011, 03:34 PM   #131
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Glasgow: fantastic city.

A sister city to Liverpool - which, actually, WAS the second city of the empire.

Lots of architecture reminiscent of Liverpool - both being great Victorian ports and trade cities.
Glasgow was fortunate not to have been subject to sustained bombing during the 2nd World War, in the way that Liverpool was, and hence it retains more of its fine heritage.
Although, of course, Liverpool is still fabulous.
There are indeed many similarities between the two! Liverpool has some fantastic modern stuff too though, a lot more than Glasgow got in the last decade or so. Been enjoying your thread! Hoping to visit sometime in the near future.

Not a massive update, mostly some of the bigger Victorian commercial buildings...























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Old September 10th, 2011, 04:47 PM   #132
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Keep it going, Glasgow is simply delicious.
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Old September 11th, 2011, 02:22 AM   #133
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Tbh even as a second generation Irish immigrant I wouldn't call Dublin (imo better than Glasgow in looks) the Second City, because it was a colony of the Empire unlike Scottish and English cities.
That isn't strictly true. Although Ireland is a separate island, it was part of the United Kingdom (of Great Britain and Ireland) As it was actually part of the UK, and completely run from London for a long time. Surely you don't see Northern Ireland, under pretty much the exact same position as ROI until independence as a colony today?

Absolutely amazing photos as usual btw!!!
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Old September 11th, 2011, 08:11 PM   #134
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Thanks guys!

If I'm going to wade into the 'Second City' debate, all I'll do is repeat that while it may have been important at the height of the Empire, the status is largely irrelevant today.
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Old November 26th, 2011, 01:21 PM   #135
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Finally, a chance to update!

Around autumn time, the city gets fantastic light, so here's a few pics in the low, hazy, cold sun.

































A crane! A rare sight since the end of the last construction boom.


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Old November 26th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #136
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Indeed, beautiful light! Thanks for the new pics!
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Old November 27th, 2011, 02:26 PM   #137
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Around the Cathedral Precinct now... the area is much quieter than it should be, due to being quite seperated from the city centre by awful road planning and a large university campus, although as Scotland's only surviving pre-Reformation cathedral, it is worthy of note, particularly as the point where Glasgow was officially founded.

The original place of worship was founded here in the 6th century by St Mungo (or St Kentigern, depending on who you're asking.) with the first stone cathedral in place in 1136 and the present day one consecrated in 1197. (it has of course been altered and changed much since then) Of course there had been a settlement grew up further toward the river at the lowest forded point for unknown hundreds of years before, but religion being the be all and end all back in the bad old days St Mungo is seen as the 'founder' of the city as we know it.



The survival of Glasgow Cathedral in the face of the Reformation (the rise of Protestandism against the existing Roman Catholic church around 1560, resulting in the defacement or destruction of cathedrals all over the country.) is due to the people of Glasgows affection for the building. As overzealous mobs threatened to destroy the cathedral as they had done so many others, the biggest loss undoubtedly being St Andrews cathedral, the tradesmen of the city took it upon themselves to defend it. Although still a relatively small city there was enough 'collective sanity' in the population to hold together the cathedral... a brilliant ode to the benefits of city living if ever there was one .

Firstly, The Necropolis, resting place for the industrial and merchant elite during the city's boom years. This deserves a thread of its own, but I was only passing through.











The Provands Lordship, built 1471, is the oldest building in Glasgow, and the last remaining fragment of the medieval city. Originally, similar stone buildings would have populated this area around the cathedral, with less grand stone and timber buildings further downhill.





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Missed your updates and you came back with some stunning buildings!
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Old November 28th, 2011, 08:06 AM   #139
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Old November 28th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #140
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Scotland is blessed with so many stunning cities for a country of this size. Spent an amazing week there years ago, it's time to come visit again, I think. thanks for the pics
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