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March 13th, 2010, 01:21 PM
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I have just, out of interest, popped over and had a look at the Development Summary on the Newcastle Forum. It is an excellent thread and structure and is, as far as I can tell, always maintained up to date with every change by the one forum member who runs it. All changes are spotted by him, or notified to him by members via their Skybar (there is a message on the Development Summary thread asking members not to post changes on that thread but to post them on Skybar). Have a look at their thread, one like that would look great (even better!) on here. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=980776 |
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March 13th, 2010, 05:12 PM
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Yes it would, it needs someone with an eye and ear to the ground and the time to keep it up to date
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March 15th, 2010, 07:19 PM
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March 16th, 2010, 12:06 PM
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March 16th, 2010, 12:24 PM
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I have just, out of interest, popped over and had a look at the Development Summary on the Newcastle Forum. It is an excellent thread and structure and is, as far as I can tell, always maintained up to date with every change by the one forum member who runs it. All changes are spotted by him, or notified to him by members via their Skybar (there is a message on the Development Summary thread asking members not to post changes on that thread but to post them on Skybar). Have a look at their thread, one like that would look great (even better!) on here. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=980776 Quote:
It can be really very good and very useful, as in the example above. I'm sure that thread-owner will help and advise us if needed. I'm sure we can do it at least as well! |
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March 16th, 2010, 05:29 PM
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March 16th, 2010, 05:42 PM
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I think it's a nice idea, but quite unnecessary at present when one considers the amount of actual development work happening in Sunderland at present. I think such summary forums are more useful on the large subforums like Sheffield and Liverpool where there are a large amount of projects ongoing thus where such an index makes navigation much easier.
On the broader point of merging and combining short or obselete threads, I think this is a very useful idea for the Sunderland subforum along the lines that were suggested elsewhere. (I'll find the post if I can and re-post it here.) |
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PART 1, could be adopted as our guidelines for future use of our forum. PARTS 2 to 6, could form the basis of a note (to ask for the changes to be made) to be sent to the mods. I ACCEPT THAT PARTS (OR ALL) OF THIS MIGHT BE REJECTED BY THE MEMBERS. IF SO, THAT IS OK WITH ME!! PROPOSALS FOR THE RE-ORGANISATION OF THE “SUNDERLAND & DURHAM SUB FORUM” ON SKYSCRAPER CITY. (1) Objectives. To improve the ease of use of the sub forum by doing the following . . (i) Removing rarely used and obsolete threads, that are slipping down the forum to become out of sight and obsolete. (ii) Setting up an agreed set of ‘posting guidelines’ to prevent the re-currence of the setting up of multiple new threads, when really the posts could be included on pre-existing threads. These could be either on “subject” threads (such as a “Sunderland Pubs” thread) or on the sub-forum “skybar” for general chat/conversation type posts, that do not deserve their own thread and are not relevant to any existing “subject” thread. (iii) To merge the posts from the mentioned ‘obsolete’ threads into their appropriate subject thread or Skybar. (iv) To delete the residual empty threads, after (iii) above. (v) To merge duplicate threads, where found (eg, there are three threads about the Adelaide ship). (vi) To amend the titles of some threads to A – Conform with normal Skyscraper City guidelines. B - Remove confusion by adding ‘clear explanation’ to titles. (viii) To set up (where not already in place) some “subject threads” to help absorb the obsolete and/or unused/short threads, mentioned in (i) above. Example “subject threads” would be . . Sunderland & Durham area – Pubs Sunderland & Durham area – Retail Sunderland & Durham area – Restaurants etc . . (ix) To accumulate all “Projects” into a “Development Summary” thread, that is maintained by a nominated individual. (x) Related to (ix) above, to amend all “Project Threads” to adhere to the agreed Skyscraper City standard format, eg . . SAFC Training Facility | South Tyneside | 1fl | Submitted Porterfield Plaza | Sunderland | 5fl | U/C etc . . . (2) Thread Titles to change . . in order to . (a) Conform with SSC Guidelines (standard format) and/or (b) Remove ambiguity and to clarify content of thread. (c) Clarify use of “subject” threads (eg, “Sunderland & Durham area – Pubs”) LIST . . . Local Music (to be changed to) Local Music in Sunderland Area http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1030335 Durham (to be changed to) Durham City – Developments & Other Issues http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1025509 SAFC submit planning application for indoor training facility (to be changed to) SAFC Training Facility | South Tyneside | 1fl | Submitted http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=995833 Sunderland Crown Court | Farrington Row, Sunderland | Proposed (to be changed to) Sunderland Crown Court | Sunderland, Farrington Row | ?fl | Proposed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1049323 SR6 | Development news from Roker, Fulwell, Seaburn and surrounding areas (to be changed to) Sunderland North East (Roker, Fulwell, Seaburn etc) Developments http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1080075 Fawcett St (to be changed to) Sunderland area – Small Developments & other issues http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1050537 Green Issue (to be changed to) Sunderland & Durham Area – Green Issues http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1009787 Hylton Castle (to be changed to) Hylton Castle – Plans / Proposals / Ideas http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1021005 Former Newcastle Rd Baths (to be changed to) Sunderland College – Developments http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=992295 Porterfield Plaza High St Sunderland (to be changed to) Porterfield Plaza | Sunderland | 5fl | Dormant http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=992295 Sunderland | Proposed Hotels (to be changed to) Sunderland Area – Hotels http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1064473 Roylaty Theatre to close (to be changed to and correction to spelling) Royalty Theatre – Possible Closure http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1049709 The Vaux Site (to be changed to) Vaux Site | Sunderland | Various | Proposed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1006895 Sunderland Software Centre | Tavistock Place, Sunniside | Proposed (to be changed to) Sunderland Software Centre | Sunderland (Sunniside, Tavistock Place) | ?fl | Proposed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1079741 Stadium Village (to be changed to) Stadium Village | Sunderland | Various | Proposed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=990079 New Student Village (to be changed to) New Student Village | Sunderland | ?fl | Proposed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1005461 Durham Gate | Thinford | Former Black and Decker Site (to be changed to) Durham Gate | Thinford, Co Durham | Various | Proposed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1002111 Echo 24 (to be changed to) Echo 24 Building – Use of Ground Floor http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1008429 Hind St/Silksworth Row (to be changed to) Sunderland University – Developments http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1004181 The Coast | Seaburn & Roker (to be changed to) The Coast, Seaburn & Roker area – Developments http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=994215 SUNDERLAND | Spirit of Sunderland | 33fl ! 328ft (to be changed to) Spirit of Sunderland | Sunderland | 33fl | 328ft | Proposed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=890236 Work starts to demolish unsafe Sunderland car park (to be changed to) Central Area Multi-storey Car Park | Sunderland | ?fl | Demolition http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1051231 Ģ48M University Plan gets Go ahead (to be changed to) Durham University new Admin Building | Durham City | ?fl | Proposed http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1016515 (3) Small (“Chat-type”) threads, to merge into our “Skybar”. Google Street View http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1049309 Google Street View – Sunderland is now available http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1084947 Football Echo http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=992957 Ashbrooke Sports Club http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1060413 4001 Posts http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1050677 Villa pop http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1013793 Opposite the Winter Gardens http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1001157 Sunderland & Washington http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=981476 Farmers market http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1071455 Cosa Nostra http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1060423 Facebook Capital of Britain is http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1072249 Durham City | Lumiere http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1003237 Boylesports http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1054529 Gala Theatre http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1057375 Crypt discovered in Villers St http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1051239 BBC Newcastle http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1005471 The old Town Hall http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1023723 Merry Christmas and hope it’s a good 2010 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1031063 Tesco’s http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1024805 ladbrokes http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1005563 (4) “Subject Threads” (as listed below) to be more 'uniformly' titled and have some smaller threads (on the same subject or theme) merged into them. NB - not all subject threads have threads to merge into them. The small threads “to merge into” these subject-based threads (where there are any) are listed below each subject thread title . . Sunderland & Durham area - Pubs Victorias Pub Low Row http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1060391 T J Doyles / Winstons Deptford http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=991625 Wearside Beers http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=997301 The Continental pub, St Theresa St http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1080601 Double Maxim http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1042973 Museum Vaults Silksworth Row http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1065627 Renissance Pub http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1067379 Pilgrim Pub Fawcet St http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1049713 Indigo Rooms http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1020831 Live Footy in Pubs http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1024133 TTonic http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1024129 Retail in Sunderland Pandoras http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1060389 Masons Amusements http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1053887 Sunderland & Durham area – Restaurants Bar 55’s John Street, Sunderland city centre http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1021521 Theatre restaurant http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1060621 Olive Garden Vine Place http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1049211 Local Music in Sunderland Area No threads to merge into this one. Sunderland North East (Roker, Fulwell, Seaburn etc) Developments No threads to merge into this one. Sunderland Metro and Transport Metro extension from Sunderland to Seaham http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=985232 Sunderland & Durham area - Green Issues No threads to merge into this one. Sunderland College – Developments City of Sunderland College has submitted plans for a sports pavilion http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1050463 Sunderland University – Developments No threads to merge into this one. Sunderland area – Small Developments & other issues Work Starts on 230 new homes http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1064599 Deptford Terrace Developments http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1045777 Sunderland Area – Hotels No threads to merge into this one. Sunderland – Old Pictures Crowtree Leisure Centre http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1050769 28dayslater.co.uk http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1053561 Stadium of Light No threads to merge into this one. Sunderland AFC No threads to merge into this one. Wearside | Jobs & Economic News Microsoft Ģ10 mill job boost for Sunderland http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1060259 Northern Rock http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1015887 (5) Duplicated threads, to merge into eachother . . (i) The following three threads could be merged into a thread called . . Sunderland and the ‘City of Adelaide’ ship 1 - Riverside | City of Adelaide ship http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=981504 2 - Adelaide coverage in Scots Parliament http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1000195 3 - Inside Out http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1073251 NB, Thread one would need a 'Name Change' (to as suggested above) and the other two then be merged into it. (ii) The following three threads could be merged into the newly re-named “subject thread” called . . Local Music in Sunderland Area 1 - Local Music http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1030335 2 - Campus Music Venue to re-open http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1055947 3 - Sunderland – Music Scene http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1033881 NB, Thread one would need a 'Name Change' (to as suggested above) and the other two then be merged into it. (6) Developments (with their own ‘Project Threads’) that could be listed on a “Development Summary” thread . . . following all of the above changes in Part 2 to 5) : Someone will need to volunteer to set up and maintain the 'Development Summary' thread . . BUT we do have enough projects to justify having a summary thread. It would look good, and be useful too! NB - There are TWELVE genuine “Project Threads” for inclusion, as at 20th March 2010 (using the 'newly re-named' thread titles where appropriate) see below . . . New Wear Bridge | Wessington Way, Sunderland | 190m/140m | Submitted SAFC Training Facility | South Tyneside | 1fl | Submitted Sunderland Crown Court | Sunderland, Farrington Row | ?fl | Proposed Porterfield Plaza | Sunderland | 5fl | U/C Vaux Site | Sunderland | Various | Proposed Sunderland Software Centre | Sunniside, Tavistock Place | ?fl | Proposed Stadium Village | Sunderland | Various | Proposed New Student Village | Sunderland | ?fl | Proposed Durham Gate | Thinford, Co Durham | Various | Proposed Spirit of Sunderland | Sunderland | 33fl | 328ft | Proposed Central Area Multi-storey Car Park | Sunderland | ?fl | Demolition Durham University new Admin Building | Durham City | ?fl | Proposed OK then guys! Thats it for now!! I think that any other changes needed (if any) would soon become much clearer to see, in the 'new/revamped/slimmer' forum, after (if) the above initial changes are carried out! Hope you like some of the above, let me know!! Regards. 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March 20th, 2010, 10:40 PM
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Wow - I'm astonished you've taken so much time and effort to compile your ideas and present them to us in this way; thank you.
I agree with about 95 per cent of what you've proposed, and would be happy to see all of it implemented. |
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March 20th, 2010, 11:45 PM
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Brilliant stuff! Cheers for all the effort and time that must hav taken
 Hope to see all your ideas implemented as i pretty much agree with most of what you have said.
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March 21st, 2010, 11:51 AM
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 Thanks for the above. I have written to a moderator to see if the changes can be carried out. I have started the new Development Summary thread and have unashamedly based it on a good format for a Development Summary that I found on a neighbouring Forum. It still needs a lot of populating, with photos and other details from each Project Thread, which I hope to do today. I will then ask the moderator to make it into a Sticky Thread, at the top of our Forum. I may find that I need some more details from people on here, for the Development Summary (in addition to what is on the threads, perhaps) so I will ask for those here on Skybar, if needed. I am definitley not a 'fount of all knowledge' about all these Projects!! Please let me know of any changes needed. |
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March 21st, 2010, 04:40 PM
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Good job! I'll update with info and some photos as and when I can.
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March 21st, 2010, 04:57 PM
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What are these projects, does anyone know? I have just found found the above post from 'woodhousen', made a few months ago on the SUNDERLAND | Full Summary of Projects thread! I knew that thread was still there, but I didn't realise (till now) that we were still using it. I thought that when we got the sub-forum, we set up individual Project Threads for each project, and no longer had any need to use the old thread (which was ALL we used to have) from prior to the sub-forum? So, i am now wondering, were all live projects set up with their own thread, with all information passed across from the old 'Full Summary' thread, when we got the new sub-forum? If not, there might well be other projects I need to find out about (on this old thread) to put onto the "Development Summary", do you think? Last edited by North East 4 Ever; March 21st, 2010 at 06:07 PM. |
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March 21st, 2010, 07:35 PM
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ok guys I'll get started on this lot but please dont use the skybar to discuss forum structure.
I have set up this thread > http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=980760 < specifically for that purpose. I will always look in that thread before I look anywhere else, and if your requests are elsewhere I'm almost certainly not going to spot them in a hurry. Many thanks for your help 
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March 21st, 2010, 10:17 PM
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Ok folks I've done most of these.
I'm not convinced about some of the 'smaller' threads merging into the skybar. I've done the ones that had 2 or 3 odd posts, but I'm not merging threads that have more than 1 page or especially 100 + posts into Skybar. The continuity will be totally lost, and the ones i've look at have their own specific banter, so they are staying as they are. Regarding the subject threads rationalisation I feel similarly... do you really want to lose all your continuity for each one of these... some of them are many pages long and a rationalised thread will make no sense to man nor beast... whats more you are most likely going to end up with a sterile forum. I'll let you guys think about it, but some of this is far too clinical to keep a forum lively. Regarding the Developments Thread... it's only a few days since you guys asked me to delete the one I made for you, but thanks to the great work of NE4E you have a really good one, so thanks for that... and yes I'll sticky it of course. And by the way... this little lot is going into the thread it should have gone in the first place 
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I agree -b4mmy, ---and thanks for a good job mate, --
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Well done --NE4E --you have done a good job mate, ---and with regards to the Projects you asked about, ---I believe they are part of Gentoo's Regeneration Programme for some of Sunderlands Estates, cheers. |
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Thanks b4mmy, for doing the changes that you have done for us. It is much appreciated and is the start of implementing the things many of us feel are needed to make this into a lively and easy to use forum, where topics that we wish to discuss are easy to find and do not disappear off down the bottom of the forum in short, unloved. threads!! (1) MERGING OF THREADS INTO OUR SKYBAR. Thanks for merging some threads into Skybar, but can we perhaps discuss again, some of those still left The aim here was to remove from our forum the genuine "skybar-type" threads, simply containing chat about off-topic type subjects. On the Skybar is where we would have discussed them, had one existed and been known about as a sticky, at the time. These threads are mostly off-topic, or just social chat and not about the subject (Sunderland Urban Projects etc) that Skyscraper City is about. Hence, the idea of merging them onto skybar. If they are left on the forum, usually unused near the bottom, it is very likely that other similar threads would have started, rather than using our new 'sticky' skybar! They were/are bad examples, if you like. So, I tend to agree that where the individual threads (proposed for merger into skybar) have become quite long ('bad examples' or not!) we may as well keep them.) However, can we then still merge the below five smaller ones, where 'losing continuity' (the point you make) is not too relevant? Ashbrooke Sports Club http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1060413 (a genuine bit of skybar-type social chit-chat) Villa pop http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1013793 (a genuine bit of skybar-type social chit-chat) Opposite the Winter Gardens http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1001157 (about a building, but skybar-type social chat, really) Farmers market http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1071455 (Again, really just a bit of skybar-type social conversation) Boylesports http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1054529 (a genuine bit of skybar-type social chit-chat) So, we would just keep as individual threads the'longer ones' (amongst those originally suggested) as follows . . Google Street View http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1049309 ALREADY MERGED WITH (THANKS) THE BELOW Google Street View – Sunderland is now available http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1084947 Football Echo http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=992957 4001 Posts http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1050677 BBC Newcastle http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1005471 (2) MERGERS ONTO "SUBJECT" THREADS (EG, "Sunderland & Durham - Pubs") These I see as a 'totally different kettle of fish', to the mergers onto Skybar. This was proposed so that we could have a lively and current debate about (to use "Pubs" as an example) about all the various places in question, where the thread would always be at or near, the TOP of the Forum! At the moment, many of the 'individual pub' threads are unused and out-of-sight, whereas in a "Sunderland & Durham - Pubs" thread, that would never be the case. Also, any information about a particular pub (people would know) would always be on that one thread! If we set up a 'pubs thread', but then leave all these old individual threads on the forum, then people would have no incentive to use the 'subject' thread, and indeed (the 'bad example' thing again) would be tempted to set up loads more new threads instead. Any 'loss of continuity' would be only a one-off situation, at merger, and that would often be how it is anyway, on a multi-topic thread, with more than one thing at once being discussed. But, it would always (I'm sure) be a lively debate, at "the top" of the Forum!! The same principle applies to all the proposed subject threads. As an example, the dormant thread on 'Metro extension from Sunderland to Seaham', would surely be far better off merged into the "live" main 'Sunderland Metro & transport' thread?? So, unless others disagree, can I suggest that we look at going ahead with the setting up of the 'subject threads', along the lines in the earlier note? FINALLY Once again, b4mmy, many thanks for all that you are doing for us on this forum. (PS - I have just seen that your original 'Development Summary' thread (empty) is at the bottom of the forum. Sorry, I did not see it there, and I obviously should have used it. Can it now be merged?) Last edited by North East 4 Ever; March 22nd, 2010 at 05:59 PM. |
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I'll leave this to be discussed for a few day folks... I have to admit I'm not keen on doing these mergers just to tidy things up... but if there are enough people who want it then fine. I'd also like to hear from the people who created those threads as it would be rude not to ask them, having made the effort to do so in the first place. Not against the idea... just want to be sure that everyone is happy with the proposal.
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