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Old October 9th, 2011, 12:40 PM   #21
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Lithuania! Brings back fantastic memories. Well done Pansori, very nice pictures.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 01:26 AM   #22
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Klaipėda- the most progressive city of Lithuania!


Probably the richest one.


And one of the oldest.


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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:19 AM   #23
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Lol. Actually the first two statements are far from truth . Still Klaipeda is a nice city.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 09:18 AM   #24
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Nice updates.....more please.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 06:53 PM   #25
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Lol. Actually the first two statements are far from truth . Still Klaipeda is a nice city.
Lol, prove otherwise
What city is more progressive than Klaipėda- Tauragė, Vilnius?
Yeah, right, Vilnius.
You should know these examples: http://g.diena.lt/00/18/724f20.jpg (Moses or Odysseus were faster),
http://www.15min.lt/naujiena/miestas...plauke-41-8529,
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=88001,
http://live.vz.lt/?PublicationId=892...3-0774bd8056e7 (corrupt and making stupid decisions= progressive?),
http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/finances/?doc=40475,
http://www.vilnius.lt/bplanas/files/files/file_262 (also very progressive.. not), et cetera

And what city is richer than Klaipėda? Talking about money, industry and infrastructure, export not cultural treasures. Hmm, maybe only Telšiai

Sorry for getting irritaded about your "lol"
I am vilnian myself, but Klaipėda is just more progressive and richer (althought almost four times smaller hence of a smaller scale).
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:47 PM   #26
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Lol, prove otherwise
What city is more progressive than Klaipėda- Tauragė, Vilnius?
Yeah, right, Vilnius.
You should know these examples: http://g.diena.lt/00/18/724f20.jpg (Moses or Odysseus were faster),
http://www.15min.lt/naujiena/miestas...plauke-41-8529,
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=88001,
http://live.vz.lt/?PublicationId=892...3-0774bd8056e7 (corrupt and making stupid decisions= progressive?),
http://www.baltic-course.com/eng/finances/?doc=40475,
http://www.vilnius.lt/bplanas/files/files/file_262 (also very progressive.. not), et cetera

And what city is richer than Klaipėda? Talking about money, industry and infrastructure, export not cultural treasures. Hmm, maybe only Telšiai

Sorry for getting irritaded about your "lol"
I am vilnian myself, but Klaipėda is just more progressive and richer (althought almost four times smaller hence of a smaller scale).
Knowing both cities more than adequately I politely disagree. Also wealth is usually measured in terms of GDP per capita and/or incomes. I'll try to dig those numbers once I'll get home later tonight.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 07:57 PM   #27
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Very interesting and beautiful photos Thanks for sharing
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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:13 PM   #28
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Vilnius has probably the most fabulous mayor in Europe, but all his electric bikes, that is not useful for vilnians as a means of moving in the city centre, touch screen at just one bus stop with closed toilet and other tricky stuff is pure "pakazucha"
As for GDP and budget:
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Klaipėdos uostas - patikimas uostas

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Tiesiogiai su Klaipėdos uosto veikla yra susiję daugiau kaip 800 įmonių, sukuriama per 23 tūkst. darbo vietų bei 4,5 proc. viso Lietuvoje sukuriamo BVP. Dėl aktyvios uosto veiklos sukuriama apie 185 tūkst. indukuotų darbo vietų. Klaipėdos uostas tiesiogiai ir netiesiogiai yra susijęs su 18 proc. viso Lietuvoje sukuriamo BVP.
http://www.portofklaipeda.lt/lt.php/...istatymas/7672

http://www.ve.lt/naujienos/ekonomika...blesta-491268/

ahead of Kaunas even in absolute figures.
http://www.veidas.lt/klaipedos-stiprybe-–-juru-uostas

As I see the situation:
E-ticket Klaipėda +1
Bike infrastructure Klaipėda +1
Adequate, well maintained street network Klaipėda +1
Maintenance of parks and greenery Klaipėda +1
Navigation. Neris VS Danė Klaipėda +1
Use of geothermal, sun, wind energy Klaipėda +1
Aesthetics Klaipėda +1
Just look how Klaipėda welcomes tourists

http://www.whattodo.lt/wp-content/up.../06/stotis.jpg

and how Vilnius
http://www.vilnius1.com/i/autobusustotis.jpg Welcome to Ulaanbaatar, European capital of culture and aesthetics
http://www.vilnius1.com/i/gelezinkeliostotis.jpg

Stupid restrictions for modern development Vilnius +1
Quality new quarters, not neo-commieblocks (Perkūnkiemis, Linksmasis,.. :X) Klaipėda+1
etc.

I will wait for your arguments. I am enough liberal to change my mind

P.S. I know both cities too. I am vilnian and my gf is from Klaipėda

Neo-gothic post-office building- true masterpiece






















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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:55 PM   #29
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What? Do you even know what GDP is?

Anyway...



FDI in 2010

Vilnius: ~6 bn. EUR (~11 000 EUR per capita)
Klaipėda: 686 mln. EUR (6900 EUR per capita)

GDP in 2009 (compared to national average)

Klaipeda region: ~95%
Vilnius region: ~153%


Average salary in 2011 Q3

Klaipėda: ~610 EUR
Vilnius: ~683 EUR


etc.

Then about being progressive:

IT use among 16-74 yo in 2011
Klaipėda region: 67.1%
Vilnius region: 70.9%

Households having a computer at home in 2011

Klaipėda: 60.3%
Vilnius: 64%

Access to internet at home in households in 2011

Klaipėda region: 58.9%
Vilnius region: 65%

Expenditures for scientific research in 2011

Klaipėda: ~7.6 mln. EUR
Vilnius: ~81mln. EUR


etc.
Source: http://www.stat.gov.lt/en/


So yeah, Klaipėda is more rich and progressive my ass
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 02:51 AM   #30
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What? Do you even know what GDP is?

Anyway...



FDI in 2010

Vilnius: ~6 bn. EUR (~11 000 EUR per capita)
Klaipėda: 686 mln. EUR (6900 EUR per capita)

GDP in 2009 (compared to national average)

Klaipeda region: ~95%
Vilnius region: ~153%


Average salary in 2011 Q3

Klaipėda: ~610 EUR
Vilnius: ~683 EUR


etc.

Then about being progressive:

IT use among 16-74 yo in 2011
Klaipėda region: 67.1%
Vilnius region: 70.9%

Households having a computer at home in 2011

Klaipėda: 60.3%
Vilnius: 64%

Access to internet at home in households in 2011

Klaipėda region: 58.9%
Vilnius region: 65%

Expenditures for scientific research in 2011

Klaipėda: ~7.6 mln. EUR
Vilnius: ~81mln. EUR


etc.
Source: http://www.stat.gov.lt/en/


So yeah, Klaipėda is more rich and progressive my ass
So, GDP of Vilnius is bigger (now I see, no need to object facts), but Klaipėda is ahead with less money. How to explain it?

And what about budget and debts? http://live.vz.lt/?PublicationId=43f...8-41b3cb478eef
City budget. LTL per capita:
Kaunas 2.008
Klaipėda 1.920
Vilnius 1.870

But ok, Vilnius receives more foreign direct investments, so maybe i was wrong about the welth. but I was dubious.

Now other figures. Emm, wait a minute, per what capita?
You know, official figures say, Vilnius has 539 000 inhabitants and theese percents are based on them, but then explain me this thingie: http://www.vilniaustlk.lt/index.php?id=547
Iš viso: 610.300
http://www.vilniaustlk.lt/index.php?id=548

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[...]2004 m. prisirašiusiųjų prie PSPĮ buvo 13 tūkst. daugiau, 2005 m. – 24 tūkst. daugiau, 2006 m. – 38 tūkst. daugiau, o šių metų sausio 1 d. – jau 58 tūkst. daugiau. Visos Lietuvos mastu šis neatitikimas siekia 72 tūkst. gyventojų.
Statistinis gyventojų skaičius atsiranda po visuotinio gyventojų surašymo. Vėliau duomenys koreguojami, registruojant gimimus ir mirtis, taip pat savanorišką gyvenamosios vietos deklaravimą. Paskutinysis visuotinis gyventojų surašymas vyko 2001 m. Per pastaruosius aštuonerius metus į didmiesčius ir ypač į Vilnių iš visų šalies regionų suvažiavo dešimtys tūkstančių žmonių. Prisirašiusiųjų Vilniaus poliklinikose ir šeimos sveikatos centruose jau dešimtys tūkstančių, o kaip statistiniai gyventojai jie „tebegyvena“ savo miestuose ir miesteliuose.
[...]Jei tiksliai įvertintume visos Lietuvos duomenis, naujai perskaičiuotos PSDF lėšos Vilniaus TLK padidėtų 14,2 mln., Kauno TLK – 4, 8 mln., Klaipėdos TLK – 346 tūkst., tačiau Šiaulių TLK sumažėtų 6,5 mln., o Panevėžio TLK – net 12,8.
http://www.bernardinai.lt/archyvas/straipsnis/91273
So, I believe, we should rethink some of these figures in favor of Klaipėda and,
You know, computer isn't the only thing, that makes townsman progressive. What about green energy, developed network for ecological transport, well maintained parks, no traffic jams and sufficient infrastructure, more liberal policy (less bureaucracy) for development and all achieved with less expenditures and with no debt?


But that nevermind, for me let Klaipėda be ones ass, now back to photos
Neo-gothic university (former german military buildings):







Shadowsplay





Unfortunately, don't have more photos of this complex, but it can be found in Google Images: http://www.google.lt/search?tbm=isch...=g-S1&aql=&oq= Reaaaly nice campus, I believe, only the campus of Vilnius university is better

And school, built in the 30s nearby


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Old November 22nd, 2011, 03:00 PM   #31
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"The almighty God will save you from all kinds of shit and if he won't then that's what you deserve", says the holy statue on the top of the Cathedral of Vilnius... just make sure you leave him some cash: Euros, US Dollars, Pounds Sterling and all other major currencies accepted. Oh yeah, don't forget to pray as well. Lithuania remains a largely Catholic country despite many people not being extremely strong believers. I'm thanking the almighty God that Lithuania is not as Catholic as our Southern Polish neighbours . The sooner we get rid of that religious Catholic mindset, the better it will be for all
It's interesting to see how some Lithuanians keep publicly (and privately) declaring their superiority over Poles. No less interesting is their profound knowledge of my nation; for example, they know very well that all Poles are extremely strong (Catholic) believers. I didn't know it, despite being a Pole myself. Also, it's good to know that it's God himself, who made Lithuanians less Catholic; it seems God doesn't want Lithuanians to believe in Him too strongly.

Interesting pics of Vilnius btw.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 09:53 PM   #32
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It's interesting to see how some Lithuanians keep publicly (and privately) declaring their superiority over Poles. No less interesting is their profound knowledge of my nation; for example, they know very well that all Poles are extremely strong (Catholic) believers. I didn't know it, despite being a Pole myself. Also, it's good to know that it's God himself, who made Lithuanians less Catholic; it seems God doesn't want Lithuanians to believe in Him too strongly.

Interesting pics of Vilnius btw.
Please, don't take it very seriously. I added the smiley face for a reason.

Although Poland probably is more Catholic and more religious than any of its neighbor countries including Lithuania.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 11:29 PM   #33
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And who cares about Lithuania? It's Saisonstaat after all.
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 03:46 AM   #34
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Only Poland is important country, influential
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 05:07 AM   #35
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And who cares about Lithuania? It's Saisonstaat after all.
True, only almighty Masovia and Little Poland with their everlasting identity, purely own traditions and huge inner potential (remember true polish men and source of inspiration for centuries like Jagiello, Radziwill, Pliater, Mickiewicz and his inexhaustible "Polsko, Ojczyzno moja", Giedroyc, Pilsudski, Narutowicz, Milosz- who??? nevermind, no one cares anyway) will survive on the maps after all
It just can't vanish with its own patriots and pure polish spiritual, cultural and political leaders after all, lol.
And don't forget to mention, that because of it's Saisonstaatity, Lithuwhat? desperately needs tabeleczki "Wilno", "Kowaliszki", "Pikieliszki", "Szetejnie" i rzeczywiście "Klojpeda"

Ok, enough irony about that trolling, why we need this crap here anyway... now back to photos.

Bike city.


Modern dwelling:




34- storey highrise- not bad for a city of 180 000!



Modern office buildings in the centre.




Sea horses.


Nice means of transportation.


Only less than 10 percent of lithuanians live in 30 km proximity to the sea, so sea is a miracle for every lithuanian from the continental part. Also Lithuania has only ~30 km of the seashore on the continent, the other, bigger part- on the Curonian spit, where severe restrictions are passed, that's why the space between Palanga and Klaipeda is built-up area and Palanga is visited by more than million people annualy.


Traffic.




Quiet corner further from the centre.
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Please, don't take it very seriously. I added the smiley face for a reason.

Although Poland probably is more Catholic and more religious than any of its neighbor countries including Lithuania.
Do you have a problem with the Catholic religion? Historically Europe is a Christian continent and right now a little more Christianity would not hurt Europe. I suppose Europe should turn into an Atheist- Jewish-Muslim playground? That would be ok, right? But being a Catholic is not ok. Trust me, with the way the rest of Europe is heading, the Catholic church is the least of your worries.
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Lithuanian Seaside Cycle Route which is the first and only officially signposted high quality cycle route in Lithuania

[IMG]http://t3.************/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOtUDaFccKiwMFU1My6vlPov7uSZpN8snGdmQitPHAMrXWESxB3L5ZnuwH[/IMG]

http://www.travel.lt/turizmas/select...&inlanguage=en

http://www.bicycle.lt/seasideroute/

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Lithuanian Seaside Cycle Route running through the captivating nature and impressive history of the past centuries, will definitely light up your adventurous spirit! A more than 200-kilometre length cycle route extends along three bodies of water - the Baltic Sea, the Curonian Lagoon and the Nemunas River. The highly developed route connects a variety of attraction sites at the Baltic seashore and the Curonian Lagoon.

The Lithuanian Seaside Cycle Route consists of three different parts meeting in Klaipeda:
Klaipeda - Nida (~ 50 km / 30 miles along the Curonian Spit)
Klaipeda - Butinge (~ 50 km / 30 miles through the Seaside Regional Park and Palanga Resort);
Klaipeda - Rusne Island (~ 110 km / 70 miles through the Nemunas River Delta).








http://www.mytrips.lt/Marsrutai/Paju...da-Palanga/278

Vilnius my ass.
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 08:03 AM   #38
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Do you have a problem with the Catholic religion? Historically Europe is a Christian continent and right now a little more Christianity would not hurt Europe. I suppose Europe should turn into an Atheist- Jewish-Muslim playground? That would be ok, right? But being a Catholic is not ok. Trust me, with the way the rest of Europe is heading, the Catholic church is the least of your worries.
Sorry I just enjoy making fun of religions as I do of everything else. Catholics are not exclusive here. Jewish and Muslims get a fair amount of mocking from me too

P.S I'm Catholic myself.

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Klaipėda. Quiet corners.












Traditional for this region red brick buildings.




Also traditional timber-framed (Fachwerk) building




House probably built by some rich merchant.
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There are not a lot of museums or galleries in this city, but they are really interesting and special, worth- visiting.

For example, this museum of clocks has a lot of interesting mechanisms, different clocks and kind of clocks, depicting history of clockmaking.




Also there are museum of metalsmithery nearby where you can not only examine metals works and to find out interesting things from the history of
this profession, but even observe the process of making metal objects.

You also can visit e.g. Pranas Domšaitis gallery.
Nice paintings.
http://t3.************/images?q=tbn:A...gnajmYsNwGtwQ2
It is a good practice, when works of those lithuanian geniuses, who had to emigrate because of wars, Holocausts, etc., finally return home. Arbit Blat's, Mačiūnas', Mekas', Varnelis', Kasiulis',.. legacy is exhibited at galleries in Lithuanian cities. It is also Domšaitis' case.

Some culture centre.


And yet another art gallery.


In an old timber-framed warehouse.
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