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Old October 25th, 2010, 03:24 PM   #221
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If you study Rome and Athens what you will learn is that Rome was the closest thing to the United States of America there was until the U.S of A.
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Old October 25th, 2010, 09:27 PM   #222
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Just to add to the Rome effect since we are studying it loosely now in an urban design class I am taking (and we are studying many cities in many cultures but since it hits closer to home) our [USA] whole basis for plottage and laying out land came from Rome and architectural scales are based on the Roman system. In fact, since the metric system came about during the French Revolution (really pre-invented by Thomas Jefferson under a different name when he was our first ambassador to France and everyone thought he was crazy), if America had broken independence from mother England just 20 years later than when we did, America would be under the metric system as well, but as a result we are still under the Roman system.

Also, you guys, please study ancient Rome properly. They did not take nearly as many influences from Athens as you guys are perporting. The whole political, architectural, cultural spectrum of Rome is vastly different from that of Athens with little resemblance. And both civilizations took their basic architectural cues from even earlier cultures originating in neither Rome nor Athens. Our alphabet is Roman after all with only two major differences (mixups with the letter Y and J for one).

Study Sixtus V, an Italian Renaissance planner/designer. He formed the basis for city planning as it stands throughout Europe and for basic architectural elements (and the rest of the Italians formed all the other bases). Paris would not be Paris and London would not be London and Philadelphia would not be Philadelphia without the principles that guided Classical AND Renaissance Rome. Athens is far out of the picture there, though Athens is still an awesome study in its own right, but its purely ancient civilization whereas Rome has been relevant since its inception.

And about as many practical mathematical uses came out of Rome as Athens. And as a testament to Italian-Greek influence in its own right Pythagoras, after being born on the Greek isle of Samos and traveling extensively lived in Italy in Croton (which is a Greek colony of course).
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Old October 27th, 2010, 08:12 PM   #223
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My favority London.
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Old October 27th, 2010, 08:42 PM   #224
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In fact, since the metric system came about during the French Revolution (really pre-invented by Thomas Jefferson under a different name when he was our first ambassador to France and everyone thought he was crazy)
Americans and their invented history...

metric system was described by Wilkins in the UK 80 years before Jefferson was even born.

Jefferson just read about it in Europe.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 12:16 AM   #225
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Para mi la capital mas linda de Europa es Amsterdam, Países Bajos.
For me the most beautiful European capital is Amsterdam, Netherlands.






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Old October 28th, 2010, 10:58 PM   #226
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My tentative and ever dynamic ranking:

Prague - this has always been number 1 for me. My dad used to take biz trips there all the time and bring back books, and ever since even though I haven't personally been I think it's my favorite by far. My dad actually met Vaclav Havel a couple of times and I really like Vaclav Klaus as a politician. I also really like the movie XXX
Is your father Dalailama, Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton? Relations between US and CZ are exceptional from times of Bush sr., and even now they are on the very high level, like our relations with Slovakia, Vatican and Izrael or even better.

Also first Mission Impossible was filmed here, and another one is being filmed right now in Prague.



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So my list of favourite EUROPEAN capital would definitely contain Jerusalem, Tbilisi, and of course, Prague, each being very spiritual and pleasant place..

Right after them I would put London, Budapest and all those ministates like Liechtenstein (Vaduz), Andorra (Andorra la Vella), San Marino and Luxembourg, if not Vatican itself.
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Old November 27th, 2010, 05:41 PM   #227
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Paris looks incredible in this picture from the Eiffel Tower -

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Old November 28th, 2010, 04:00 AM   #228
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Old December 1st, 2010, 12:42 AM   #229
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Old December 1st, 2010, 05:52 PM   #231
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Old December 6th, 2010, 09:18 AM   #232
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1- Vienna
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my choose, just randomly:
Budapest (fantastic architecture, fantastic city)
Prague (pretty downtown)
Amsterdam (canals, similar architectures)
Barcelona (avenues, beautiful, unbelievable)
Paris (of course, elegant)
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Old December 24th, 2010, 02:05 AM   #234
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Old December 24th, 2010, 02:39 AM   #235
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Old December 24th, 2010, 02:45 AM   #236
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czechs are indeed beautiful.
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Old December 24th, 2010, 03:32 AM   #237
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Rome - is the father of all that is western civilization.
Right, because everyone knows who the "mother" was

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Athens/ancient Greece was actually nowhere close.
"Greco-Roman civilizations dominated Classical antiquity starting in Ancient
Greece, generally considered to be the seminal culture which provided the
foundation of Western civilization and immensely influential on language,
politics, educational systems, philosophy, science and the arts, with the
writing of the epic Iliad at around 700 BC. Those values were inherited by
the Roman Republic established in 509 BC, having expanded from Italy,
centered in the Mediterranean Sea, until the Roman Empire reached its
greatest extent around the year 150."
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Old December 25th, 2010, 08:47 PM   #238
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Old December 26th, 2010, 12:23 AM   #239
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Europe is simply incredible. Every single capital is amazing. If I must choose, I would have to mention some of them, like Madrid, Budapest, Lisbon, Rome, Berlin, London, but the jewel in the European crown is Paris.
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