Turkey and Kazakhstan

[EfesPilsen]

Hello my brothers,

as you know we are all of same origin (turkic peoples)

Turkey
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Azerbaijan
Uyghurs (West China)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples





These states have a common history.Describing the migrations of the turkic tribes from Central Asia.Now in the 21th century it is important to strengthen the ties in every issue : political,economical etc..

Many turkish construction companies are involved in many projects in Astana or Almaty.The trade volume between Turkey and Kazakhstan is increasing.

What do you think about the Turkey-Kazakhstan relations ??

[hellbala]

Originally Posted by EfesPilsen

Hello my brothers,

as you know we are all of same origin (turkic peoples)

Turkey
Turkmenistan
Uzbekistan
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Azerbaijan
Uyghurs (West China)

Many turkish construction companies are involved in many projects in Astana or Almaty.The trade volume between Turkey and Kazakhstan is increasing.

What do you think about the Turkey-Kazakhstan relations ??

Hi bro. "Time will show" yagni. You should also include Tatarstan. Ya burdaki turkler gurbetlik cekmiyor saniyorum. Allaha sukur her sey iyi gidiyor, yani genel olarak. Duydugum kadariyla kazaklar icin vizeyi kaldirmislar, yani 3 ay vizesiz gezebiliriz.

[Almatyman]

Also we should include:
Tatars
Altay
Kalmyks
Maybe:
Hyngary
But:
Turkmens are more close to Iran-Persia

[Rizeli]

The Chinese Wall was built because of the turks.Turks migrated from there till Europe and built many empires between Europe and the Chinese Wall.But Central Asia is the origin of turks.ALso the Uygurs in West China are part of Turan.

GÖKTÜRK EMPIRE





All turkic empires in Central Asia

[secondarysense]

Originally Posted by Almatyman

Also we should include:
Tatars
Altay
Kalmyks
Maybe:
Hyngary
But:
Turkmens are more close to Iran-Persia

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[Barış]

Hi from azerbaijan province of iran.
in iran live about 20 million turk include azerbaijani turkmen qashqayi.
i like to learn the kazaghy language any one have a link about kazaghy language learning in english or turkish??

[Solarama]

Originally Posted by Almatyman

Also we should include:
Tatars
Altay
Kalmyks
Maybe:
Hyngary
But:
Turkmens are more close to Iran-Persia

Almatyman, you're probably confusing Turkmens with Tajiks. Actually, contemporary Turks origin from a Turkmens-Seljuks.

And I would add:
Bashkir
Balkar
Karachay
Noghay
Karakalpak
Turkomans (in Iraq)

And in addition, I would have included the following people (although some of them are Buddhists, Orthodox Christians or Shamanists):
Kumyks
Gagauz (in Moldova)
Tuvinian
Khakass
Yakut
Dolgan

[Solarama]

Originally Posted by Barış

i like to learn the kazaghy language any one have a link about kazaghy language learning in english or turkish??

Dear, Barış!

Try to start with these sites:
http://en.abyroi.kz/
http://www.mylanguageexchange.com/Learn/Kazakh.asp
http://www.ilk.kz/ (unfortunately, the interface just only in Russian)

Good luck!

[Barış]

Tnx solorama

[manon]

Kazakhstan is the motherland of all of Turkic people.2000 years ago they spead to the world now turkish people live in anatolia,tatars live in Russia,gagauz live in Moldova,Uzbeks live in uzbekstan and uygurs live in china and many others.
Kazakhstan and Turkey relations are very good compare to the other Turkic countries.there are many turkish student in Almaty and vice versa we have many Kazakh students in istanbul.they will establish new bridges between Kazakhstan and Turkey relations.

[Indusriver]

Turkish people are more european though, genetics has proven this, only their language is turkic, not genes

[intelligentBG]

Because of Ottoman empire – huge moving of people among the empire. They said that about 80% of the genes of the late sultans were Slav (Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Bosnian) but even if it was not the truth in any case a big compilation of the genes has been occurred during 500yeras.
In any case, the culture of the Turkish people and all Turks nations are amazing. I like their enthusiasm and confidence in the future

[iskelet]

Originally Posted by intelligentBG

Because of Ottoman empire – huge moving of people among the empire. They said that about 80% of the genes of the late sultans were Slav (Russian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Bosnian) but even if it was not the truth in any case a big compilation of the genes has been occurred during 500yeras.
In any case, the culture of the Turkish people and all Turks nations are amazing. I like their enthusiasm and confidence in the future

they are not people ottoman empire. Turks hun and Göktürks

[Mekky II]

It's normal they are more related to europeans : most of turkic peoples are of iranian/scythian stock that itself comes from previous european migrations. You only have to look uyghurs, they are mixed people. From their origin turkic peoples could be linked to us : 1) turkic homeland is at the exact location that tocharian homeland : at foot of Altaï. 2) when Xiongnu (not proto-turkic empire) defeated Yuezhi (related to tocharians), Yuezhi migrated toward central and south asia, but many of them remained inside Xiongnu confederation, and many historians agree that turkic peoples were simply a part of a larger confederation in the beginning. Inside turkic legends, it is said that they were enslaved inside stone mines and were kept for their skill in metallurgy, horse breeding and riding (Similar skills that tocharians and scythians), and that one day they rebelled against their rulers and took power (göktürks ?). However it is to note that since turkic peoples were never a majority inside the confederation, they slowly lost their language and took the one from their rulers but turkic peoples stayed attracted by iranian languages during their history, the first language of göktürks was sogdian before to take old turkic.


Turkish actual population has little to do with Ottoman Empire, european migration started officially with hittites ancestors entering anatolia from balkans and was amplified with ancient greece. Though, the lineage could be far older, since there is proofs connecting prehistoric sites like Çatalhöyük, Vinča culture and Cucuteni-Trypillian culture. This link was probably established because the sprawl of agriculture from anatolia to europe starting around 7000 BC.

[intelligentBG]

I have to admit that my knowledge about Turks history is very unpretending (and thank you for your precise information) but I still insist that Ottoman Empire has influenced all population among it. There was huge, really huge movement of the people among the empire and this must have influence over the genetic diversity.

[manon]

I have never been in Kazakhstan ,hope to go there soon and i have so many kazakh friend in istanbul,they are super cool people and I love Kazakh people

[Crazzy]

LOL!!! WE love Turkish people too, they are great and funny. But unfortunatly they thought that im chinese((

[Sanat]

Trade between Turkey and Kazakhstan will be important.


Turkey right now building a rail road to BAKU ( Azerbaijan ). So transport goods can be shipped from Baku over Caspian Sea to Kazakhstan.





And Kazakhstan will be connected to SILK ROAD ( Freight Trains will transport goods from China over Kazhakstan to Europe).

Chongching ( the biggest metropol of world ) is an industrial production metropolis for western companies.But it is lying in the heart of China.So transporting over railway to Europe will be much faster than first transport the goods to the sea and then over sea to Europe



http://www.businessweek.com/articles...-trade#r=glo-s