Singapore to host the Olympics 2020?

homunwai · May 29th, 2010, 03:57 AM

Can Singapore host the Olympics?

Is it a myth to say Singapore is too small to host the Olympics?

Should it work to put in a bid for Olympics 2020?

asciano · May 29th, 2010, 05:36 AM

Yes we are physically too small.
No stadium can hold the Opening and CLosing. Perhaps Malaysia can

homunwai · May 29th, 2010, 06:09 AM

Well,

I would say the size of the stadium is among the lesser of the issues.

How large you want to satidium to be?

Sydney, 110,000 reduced to 80,000 after the games.
London, 80,000 reducible to 25,000 after the games.

Modern day philosophy about games infrastructure is about short term overlays.

I am thinking more about amongst others the following:
- hotels,
- games village,
- manpower and talents to manage the event.
- availability of local service providers and contractors to provide the various services, etc.

It is going to be interesting.

redstone · May 29th, 2010, 04:00 PM

Our sporting facilities are not big enough... Not even the new Sports Hub is big enough I think. One solution I thought of would be temporary buildings at Marina South...

gosperence · May 30th, 2010, 04:23 PM

Our altheletes failed...
we didn't rank good enough to even bid for it.

Vrooms · June 2nd, 2010, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asciano

Yes we are physically too small.
No stadium can hold the Opening and CLosing. Perhaps Malaysia can

I dont think Malaysia can. They could'nt even beat Singapore for the Youth Olympic Games.

ddes · June 2nd, 2010, 06:25 AM

KL is looking at a possible bid for the 2020 games or in future years. Why would they want to host YOG, which is nothing compared to the Summer Olympics?

I think Singapore could jointly bid to host the World Cup with either one or 2 of our neighbors. It'd be easier too.

Vrooms · June 2nd, 2010, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddes

KL is looking at a possible bid for the 2020 games or in future years. Why would they want to host YOG, which is nothing compared to the Summer Olympics?

I think Singapore could jointly bid to host the World Cup with either one or 2 of our neighbors. It'd be easier too.

They did bid to host this years YOG and failed. I'm just saying that if they can't win the bid to host the YOG what makes you think they can win the bid to host the summer olympics?? I agree that Singapore maybe able to host the World Cup jointly with Malaysia.

ddes · June 2nd, 2010, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrooms

They did bid to host this years YOG and failed. I'm just saying that if they can't win the bid to host the YOG what makes you think they can win the bid to host the summer olympics??

Because the YOG was meant to be awarded to deserving cities who will never be able to host the Summer Olympics because of whatever reason?

That philosophy is why Moscow lost... if not frankly, looking at their proposal then, there's no reason why Singapore should have won.

mgear088 · June 3rd, 2010, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddes

Because the YOG was meant to be awarded to deserving cities who will never be able to host the Summer Olympics because of whatever reason?

That philosophy is why Moscow lost... if not frankly, looking at their proposal then, there's no reason why Singapore should have won.

Not True, you just sounded kind of jealous.

Vrooms · June 4th, 2010, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mgear088

Not True, you just sounded kind of jealous.

I think so too! If Malaysia was really worthy of hosting the Youth Olympics, i think the IOC would have given it to them to set the bar high for future YOG games.

ddes · June 5th, 2010, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vrooms

I think so too! If Malaysia was really worthy of hosting the Youth Olympics, i think the IOC would have given it to them to set the bar high for future YOG games.

Firstly, I am very disappointed that some of the points that merit Singapore in its bid were met with cutbacks.

Secondly, I don't believe Singapore is the centre of the universe; the YOG is an evolution of the World Youth Games, which to me, makes it more or less in the same league as the Winter Olympics; nice to host, but won't have the prestige and glamor as the real thing (Summer Olympics). It's just not as important.

Next, if you think about it, the YOG will always play second fiddle to the World Cup, Commonwealth, and to a smaller extent, the Asian Games and the Winter Olympics.

joshww81 · September 3rd, 2010, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homunwai

Can Singapore host the Olympics?

Is it a myth to say Singapore is too small to host the Olympics?

Should it work to put in a bid for Olympics 2020?

Reviving the thread. I'd say YES that it is possible - but it will come at a certain costs, which we need to plan and manage well.

But practically, yes, it is possible because smaller cities like Barcelona have done it...Barcelona is a case study in urban planning for mega events, which they have managed to do so within a relatively small area.

Of all the venues, our main problem will be in hosting the football games, which are likely to have to be held in Malaysia.

SingaporeCity · September 3rd, 2010, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshww81

Of all the venues, our main problem will be in hosting the football games, which are likely to have to be held in Malaysia.

Actually, I'm thinking whether the new Sports hub stadium will be big enough to host Olympic football matches, opening and closing ceremony.

I know for world cup, there's a criteria that the host nation needs to have at least 6 stadiums with a minimum capacity of 50, 000 each, but I'm not sure whether Olympic summer games have such criterias.

I think Singapore has the capability to host the summer games, but whether or not they select us is a different thing because we have just hosted the yog, can't possibly host twice in a decade?

I think we can all aim for Asian and Commonwealth games first.

Summer Olympic Games has got to be the biggest sporting event besides world cup, and if we ever host it, it will probably be the biggest event we ever host.

***y2koh*** · September 3rd, 2010, 04:11 PM

Hotels and accommodation will be one big issue. With less than 40,000 rooms, Singapore is too small, for Olympic games a city and surrounding areas need to have 100,000 rooms. Even if the URA release more sites to for hotels increase capacity. The high costs of the land and maintenance will not be able to sustain the hotels with the lowered occupacy rate after the games. The organisers may have to think of alternative ways to accommodate visitors.

gosperence · September 4th, 2010, 01:41 AM

At 40,000 rooms, i think they can't bar other business travellers & tourists to come here....so in actual it's less than 40,000 rooms & we are seriously small.

SingaporeCity · September 4th, 2010, 02:53 AM

i didn't think of that and did not know so many hotel rooms are needed. I think Singapore should release more land for hotels whether or not we host such events.

Autobots · September 5th, 2010, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by homunwai

Can Singapore host the Olympics?

Is it a myth to say Singapore is too small to host the Olympics?

Should it work to put in a bid for Olympics 2020?

Unlikely, Commonwealth and Asian games more likely

Those white elephant stadiums and Olympic village after Olympic Games & billions of dollar tax payer money will become big political issues for the Govt.

Mr.ASAP · September 5th, 2010, 07:59 AM

well i would say definitely not...

host nations spend millions and at times close to billions of dollars just on building infrastructure..... they have built purposed built stadiums for the various sporting competitions. e.g stadiums for shooting, swimming and of course the opening and closing ceremony stadium

as others have mentioned, all these facilities will become huge white elephants after the event. the amount of money spent on this one-off event would be insane, SGreans are already complaining of more than 300million being spent on YOG.. what about Summer olympics?

apart from infrastructure issues, lets not forget the issue of local support.. already the support from the locals on the YOG was rather flatline.... partially the government is to blame for not taking enough initiative to sieve out the small yet obvious problems. <-- IMO, no citations LOL

so yeah... Singapore is not ready and i feel that the market is too small to host the games.

tbh its also sad though the YOG wasnt fully supported by the world media... I have RSS feeds on my web broswer from CNN, Reuters and BBC, all of which when YOG opening ceremony started, within 24hours, i did not even see a SINGLE article about the YOG, no article on the sports section of CNN. its sad ya? mmm food for thought

ddes · September 5th, 2010, 04:38 PM

The Youth Olympics is by no means, a big event. Sure, the government's been hyping it up as the biggest thing we've ever hosted but the truth is, if noone gave a damn about the World Youth Games, they wouldn't care about YOG either. Afterall, the Youth Olympics ARE just the World Youth Games with the words, "Olympics" added to it.

I mean, if Singapore Airlines' first flight of the A380 and IMF meet in 2006 made headline news on CNN and not this. So really, the YOG isn't that big of a deal.

In addition, the YOG is limited to 14 to 18 years of age. I would have thought the 'youth' would be 14 to 21, which would allow more athletes to participate since at least a great majority of the Olympic athletes are 17 to 21 anyway. But I won't go on about the YOG already.

I do not think Singapore should or can host the Summer Olympics. The IOC knows it, and the whole idea of behind the Youth Olympics candidate city selection is to give cities which can't host the Summer Olympics a chance to host an Olympics-branded event.

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Mr.ASAP HaVe a niCe DaY ! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 412 Likes (Received): 0	well i would say definitely not... host nations spend millions and at times close to billions of dollars just on building infrastructure..... they have built purposed built stadiums for the various sporting competitions. e.g stadiums for shooting, swimming and of course the opening and closing ceremony stadium as others have mentioned, all these facilities will become huge white elephants after the event. the amount of money spent on this one-off event would be insane, SGreans are already complaining of more than 300million being spent on YOG.. what about Summer olympics? apart from infrastructure issues, lets not forget the issue of local support.. already the support from the locals on the YOG was rather flatline.... partially the government is to blame for not taking enough initiative to sieve out the small yet obvious problems. <-- IMO, no citations LOL so yeah... Singapore is not ready and i feel that the market is too small to host the games. tbh its also sad though the YOG wasnt fully supported by the world media... I have RSS feeds on my web broswer from CNN, Reuters and BBC, all of which when YOG opening ceremony started, within 24hours, i did not even see a SINGLE article about the YOG, no article on the sports section of CNN. its sad ya? mmm food for thought __________________ have a nice day

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May 29th, 2010, 05:36 AM	#2
asciano Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 197 Likes (Received): 0	Yes we are physically too small. No stadium can hold the Opening and CLosing. Perhaps Malaysia can

May 29th, 2010, 06:09 AM	#3
homunwai Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 72 Likes (Received): 0	Well, I would say the size of the stadium is among the lesser of the issues. How large you want to satidium to be? Sydney, 110,000 reduced to 80,000 after the games. London, 80,000 reducible to 25,000 after the games. Modern day philosophy about games infrastructure is about short term overlays. I am thinking more about amongst others the following: - hotels, - games village, - manpower and talents to manage the event. - availability of local service providers and contractors to provide the various services, etc. It is going to be interesting.

May 30th, 2010, 04:23 PM	#5
gosperence Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 301 Likes (Received): 1	Our altheletes failed... we didn't rank good enough to even bid for it.

June 2nd, 2010, 06:25 AM	#7
ddes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,311 Likes (Received): 41	KL is looking at a possible bid for the 2020 games or in future years. Why would they want to host YOG, which is nothing compared to the Summer Olympics? I think Singapore could jointly bid to host the World Cup with either one or 2 of our neighbors. It'd be easier too.

September 3rd, 2010, 04:11 PM	#15
*y2koh* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2,899 Likes (Received): 16	Hotels and accommodation will be one big issue. With less than 40,000 rooms, Singapore is too small, for Olympic games a city and surrounding areas need to have 100,000 rooms. Even if the URA release more sites to for hotels increase capacity. The high costs of the land and maintenance will not be able to sustain the hotels with the lowered occupacy rate after the games. The organisers may have to think of alternative ways to accommodate visitors.

September 4th, 2010, 01:41 AM	#16
gosperence Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 301 Likes (Received): 1	At 40,000 rooms, i think they can't bar other business travellers & tourists to come here....so in actual it's less than 40,000 rooms & we are seriously small.

September 4th, 2010, 02:53 AM	#17
SingaporeCity Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Tropical Island Posts: 850 Likes (Received): 4	i didn't think of that and did not know so many hotel rooms are needed. I think Singapore should release more land for hotels whether or not we host such events.

September 5th, 2010, 04:38 PM	#20
ddes Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 5,311 Likes (Received): 41	The Youth Olympics is by no means, a big event. Sure, the government's been hyping it up as the biggest thing we've ever hosted but the truth is, if noone gave a damn about the World Youth Games, they wouldn't care about YOG either. Afterall, the Youth Olympics ARE just the World Youth Games with the words, "Olympics" added to it. I mean, if Singapore Airlines' first flight of the A380 and IMF meet in 2006 made headline news on CNN and not this. So really, the YOG isn't that big of a deal. In addition, the YOG is limited to 14 to 18 years of age. I would have thought the 'youth' would be 14 to 21, which would allow more athletes to participate since at least a great majority of the Olympic athletes are 17 to 21 anyway. But I won't go on about the YOG already. I do not think Singapore should or can host the Summer Olympics. The IOC knows it, and the whole idea of behind the Youth Olympics candidate city selection is to give cities which can't host the Summer Olympics a chance to host an Olympics-branded event.