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Old June 10th, 2011, 01:06 PM   #581
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Must be one of the best jobs! It's like Christmas morning, times a thousand.

Ugh, that roof access structure... Such a shame. I hope they come up with some creative disguise for it.
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Old June 10th, 2011, 10:40 PM   #582
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Old June 10th, 2011, 11:44 PM   #583
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Must be one of the best jobs! It's like Christmas morning, times a thousand.

Ugh, that roof access structure... Such a shame. I hope they come up with some creative disguise for it.
Is it open top? They could plant trees on top?
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Old June 11th, 2011, 06:49 AM   #584
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Old June 11th, 2011, 09:52 AM   #585
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Is this returning to the memorial ? As it was on the plaza it would be good if it was put in it's original location whether inside or outside........I know the original tower footprints are marked by the memorial but the datums are changed as the original plaza was above natural ground level. When I visited the site in 2007 the stair near WTC 7 was still in place so could remember using it to access the Centre back in 2000. I know the whole site is maybe enough to hold significance yet something in it's original location would let you imagine exactly what was there before. Guess this means little to future generations but I feel lucky to have visited it before 9/11.



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Old June 11th, 2011, 09:34 PM   #586
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Is it open top? They could plant trees on top?
Creative indeed.

I was thinking more along the lines of slanting the cladding on the roof so that it covers the structure entirely, even though there will be this odd hump in the middle.
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Old June 12th, 2011, 03:36 AM   #587
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Old June 12th, 2011, 03:46 AM   #588
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Building the stairs that will conect Liberty St. with the memorial:
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Old June 12th, 2011, 12:26 PM   #589
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Creative indeed.

I was thinking more along the lines of slanting the cladding on the roof so that it covers the structure entirely, even though there will be this odd hump in the middle.
Haha that post makes me sound a dumb ass I meant a green roof. What is the purpose though? I'm surprised nobody thought a rooftop restaurant was a good idea

Also where is that sculpture now? And will it be returning to were it belongs?
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Old June 12th, 2011, 01:26 PM   #590
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Hull post #590 Also where is that sculpture now? And will it be returning to were it belongs?

It is in Battery Park.....at the southern end of Lower Manhattan. But I kind of feel not a permanent location ?
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Old June 12th, 2011, 05:03 PM   #591
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9/11 memorial: General reservations start July 11

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NEW YORK (AP) — The general public can start making reservations next month to visit the Sept. 11 memorial after the terror attacks' 10th anniversary, and victims' relatives will have special provisions to schedule visits to the monument taking shape in the World Trade Center's footprints, organizers said Friday.
Family members will be able to start making reservations July 6 , five days before the general public, and use a special phone number instead of the public's online system, the National Sept. 11 Memorial & Museum told them in an email message. An as-yet undetermined number of passes will be set aside every day for family members, and they'll be able to use a separate entrance, the museum added.
The memorial's massive, waterfall-filled reflecting pools, inscribed with the names of the nearly 3,000 people killed in the Sept. 11 attacks and the 1993 trade center bombing, are to be dedicated on the 10th anniversary in a ceremony for victims' families.
But with an estimated 4 million to 5 million visitors expected within a year as construction continues on the trade center site, the memorial has to schedule visitors for now, museum President Joe Daniels said. Organizers haven't yet settled on how many visitors will be allowed per day, but preliminary plans called for a limit of 1,500 visitors at a time.
While the idea of needing tickets to a memorial may puzzle or rankle some, it was being done only to manage when people come to visit, Daniels said, noting that the passes will be free.
"Having these kinds of procedures will make it safe for people to go to the memorial, pay their respects and see the construction happening around them," he said.
And there is plenty of construction. The 1,776-foot 1 World Trade Center, formerly known as the Freedom Tower, is being built just northwest of the memorial site and won't open until 2013. Hundreds of trees will still need to be planted, and cobblestones will need to be filled in to the 8-acre memorial plaza after Sept. 11, 2011, and its accompanying, largely underground museum is scheduled to open in 2012. A transit hub is under construction until at least 2015, along with at least one other skyscraper.
Museum board member Tom Roger, whose daughter was killed in the attacks, acknowledged that the reservation plan "is going to be part of the challenge initially."
"But for people who would complain about it ... what they need to understand is that having access at all is a privilege" given the surrounding construction, Roger added. His daughter, Jean Roger, was a flight attendant aboard one of the hijacked planes that crashed into the trade center.
He's pleased with the arrangements to give victims' families priority in scheduling and making visits. It's unclear how many people that might be, but it's expected to be a fraction of overall visitors, Daniels said.
Those who seek to use the special provisions will be asked for their relative's name and relationship to them. But organizers have pointedly shied, at least for now, from more stringent verification procedures.
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Old June 12th, 2011, 07:08 PM   #592
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One of the trees appears to have died.

Leafless today:

[IMG]http://i54.************/2jg2qrr.png[/IMG]

Wednesday, June 8th:

[IMG]http://i56.************/2d7c26s.png[/IMG]

Much healthier just one week earlier (June 1st):

[IMG]http://i52.************/2qnqd20.png[/IMG]

I wonder how many "spare" trees they have growing at the nursery to replace others that may die in the future, and how big they can grow before becoming too large for transport or transplant?
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Old June 13th, 2011, 08:46 AM   #593
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I wonder how many "spare" trees they have growing at the nursery to replace others that may die in the future, and how big they can grow before becoming too large for transport or transplant?


Its not just one nursery. Spare trees can be from anywhere in the US.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 04:04 AM   #594
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True, but I seem to recall reading that these trees were/are being grown in NJ with super extra special care, which probably makes them quite a bit more expensive than usual. It wouldn't surprise me if they don't have some extras since trees are most vulnerable during the first year or so of being transplanted.

The neighboring tree to the east looks ill too:

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And I'm keeping an eye on these west of the north pool. It might just be the resolution of the camera, but some of them don't look right:

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Old June 14th, 2011, 05:50 AM   #595
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I wonder if the irrigation system is not working properly in that spot, and the trees simply are not getting enough water.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 10:04 AM   #596
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Next on Fox News: Are Terrorists Poisoning The 9/11 Memorial Trees? Is Obama to Blame?

Seriously though, it wouldn't surprise me in a site with this kind of construction around it if some of the irrigation water were getting polluted. But then again, it's to be expected that a few trees wouldn't make it through transplantation, so I'm not worried.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 12:52 PM   #597
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Notice the two dead/ill trees:


The plaza is quickly rising to grade around the pavilion:
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Old June 14th, 2011, 01:15 PM   #598
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Don't forget as a construction site newly cured concrete isn't great for tree roots. Even rain run off would send chemicals to the trees. They will adapt and settle down and the few that don't survive can be easily replaced. We moved a very old Oak Tree twice during alterations to our City Square and it's still healthy.
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Old June 14th, 2011, 02:44 PM   #599
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After looking at other images of the trees west of the north pool, they look perfectly normal and healthy. So just one or two dead/dying out of ~150 probably isn't bad at this stage. Anyone know the exact number of trees that have been planted so far?

Edit: I counted 143 from the KPI TV cams. But I'm not 100% sure because 1WTC blocks the view of some from 2WTC, and the other cams have bad angles for counting those.

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Old June 14th, 2011, 04:41 PM   #600
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New trees are delivered and planted between the vent structures. Earthcam is frozen (edit: no longer frozen, working again), but

http://www.malistebde.com/groundzero...11/rgz_000.jpg

and the HD cam from WTC 7

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are working..

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