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Old June 15th, 2011, 10:18 AM   #601
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Old June 15th, 2011, 12:23 PM   #602
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Seeing the North face of the pavilion building has windows reminiscent of the Aircraft impact of WTC 1 wonder if the South side will hint at the Aircraft impact to WTC 2 ? I see it still has protective wrapping......I don't mention this lightly, I think it has very strong sentiment for the Memorial.
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Old June 15th, 2011, 05:09 PM   #603
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Old June 15th, 2011, 06:34 PM   #604
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Old June 15th, 2011, 10:58 PM   #605
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Old June 16th, 2011, 06:16 PM   #606
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Old June 17th, 2011, 04:42 PM   #607
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Finally, water is flowing into the center void of the north pool:

[IMG]http://i54.************/dxi742.png[/IMG]

Of course Mr. Tower Crane is strategically positioned to block the view of the bottom at this moment.

Cladding finally going on one of the vent structures:

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Old June 17th, 2011, 05:47 PM   #608
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And six more trees already planted along the south pool, with four more queueing up..

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the HDR effect is a little bit exaggerated for my taste, but interesting view..

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Old June 18th, 2011, 01:20 AM   #609
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Stunning, now the bad news:

Sept. 11 museum may ask $25 ticket fee

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NEW YORK, June 17 (UPI) -- A proposed $25 admission price at the Sept. 11 museum in New York at the World Trade Center site is being criticized.

"I represent the third-poorest district in the city, and I can tell you most of my constituents won't be able to afford $20 or $25," Bronx City Councilman Fernando Cabrera said at a hearing Thursday, the New York Daily News reported.

The memorial set to open Sept. 11 will be free but president Joe Daniels said the underground museum, opening a year later, may charge a "suggested donation" like the $25 requested at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

"This will be a world-class museum and it will absolutely need to generate revenue in line with other world-class institutions in New York City," he said. He estimated its annual operating costs at as much as $60 million.

The museum will decide whether to ask for a donation or charge a mandatory fee, depending on how much other funding it gets, Daniels said.

Julie Menin, chairwoman of Community Board 1, which represents the lower Manhattan area, responded: "This is not the Met and it's not an art museum. This is where we were attacked and we don't want to make it cost-prohibitive."
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Old June 18th, 2011, 02:53 PM   #610
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Does anyone know what these are? I am assuming drains or spot lights.

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Old June 18th, 2011, 03:29 PM   #611
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If there is a charge to enter the memorial.........I think it should be exactly the same price as they would have charged to enter the WTC on 9/11/2001........forever !
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I do believe US War Memorials (Korea, Vietnam, Marine Corps, etc) are admission free and rely on fund-raising for costs and operations. This memorial should be no different.
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I do believe US War Memorials (Korea, Vietnam, Marine Corps, etc) are admission free and rely on fund-raising for costs and operations. This memorial should be no different.
It would be nice, but it's unrealistic. The war memorials (I'm guessing you are referring to the one's in Washington DC) have very low maintenance costs, during to the simplicity of the memorials (an open space with stone slabs/constructions, with basic illumination).

The 9/11 memorial, other than being managed by a different organization, it is an underground structure, with an air cooling/filtering system, complex water system (the biggest manmade waterfalls in North America), security system, and so on. It would be wrong to compare it to your usual war memorial (which take into consideration these kind of costs in the design phase).

They will see what is the projected income from donations, if there will be any state/government support or support from any other organization, and then they will decide. Like everybody else does.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 03:16 AM   #614
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Does anyone know what these are? I am assuming drains or spot lights.
Those aren't spotlights for the "Tribute in Light", they would need at least 30 to get enough light. I suppose those are part of the draining system.
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Old June 19th, 2011, 07:59 PM   #615
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it shows that the atmosphere is changing from construction site to memorial plaza in some parts (at least a little bit) in my opinion

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Old June 20th, 2011, 03:03 PM   #616
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Those aren't spotlights for the "Tribute in Light", they would need at least 30 to get enough light. I suppose those are part of the draining system.
As you say the 'Tribute in Light' use many lights to give the twin beams......here is a pic I took back in 2007 showing hundreds! I wonder if they could set a ring of them below the sunken central hole of each footprint ? That may result in thinner shafts of light that may lose effect from a distance ?


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Old June 20th, 2011, 04:42 PM   #617
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Old June 21st, 2011, 01:57 AM   #618
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i honestly think the tribute in light should be retired after the 10th anniversary. it was very appropriate years prior, especially since it was striking to see the lights fill the void in the skyline. however, nowadays, it's a little much with the new 1wtc looming over the existing memorial. -- i say retire the lights.
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Old June 21st, 2011, 10:58 AM   #619
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