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Old August 3rd, 2012, 09:00 AM   #1601
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Otie, will the trees still be as beautiful? Like in the renders? Will they become a sort of sky so it's just trees everywhere?
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Old August 13th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #1602
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any updates on the museum? it sucks that we cant see whats happening below ground
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Old August 14th, 2012, 05:01 AM   #1603
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When will they plant trees and grass in the northeastern corner of the memorial? Right now that area is nothing but concrete
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Old August 16th, 2012, 04:30 AM   #1604
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Overall site view Earthcam is back up

http://www.911memorial.org/911-memorial-webcam
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Old August 20th, 2012, 06:39 AM   #1605
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It is really pathetic how poorly this is progressing. Looked inside today and they are making very little progress:

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Looking to the side

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Old August 21st, 2012, 01:12 AM   #1606
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Problem here is I believe they (the memorial) still HAVE NOT fully resolved their monetary dispute with the PA. Which goes back to what I posted earlier- if Chris Ward had not been removed from the head of the PA, I think this BS would have been resolved a long time ago and the plaza would not only be 100% finished, but the museum would be opening next month as originally intended.
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Old August 21st, 2012, 02:45 AM   #1607
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Inside the work is at standstill. Outside in the work progresses very slowly (mostly on roof). It's pretty much on standstill too... Until they will resolve funding and stop fighting for f****** sake, there will be no major work done.

Never let government agencies get involved on construction...
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Old August 21st, 2012, 04:14 AM   #1608
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That looks like a small vent structure going up in the middle of the above photo. I don't recall seeing it on any renders.

[IMG]http://i48.************/34e5mw2.png[/IMG]

The vent thing is above some kind of reinforcing beams (top square) in the plaza. There is another set of such beams just to the north (bottom square). (There are also matching beams hidden underneath the plaza, on top of the deck right above the Calatrava ribs.)

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Old August 21st, 2012, 02:20 PM   #1609
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Inside the work is at standstill. Outside in the work progresses very slowly (mostly on roof). It's pretty much on standstill too... Until they will resolve funding and stop fighting for f****** sake, there will be no major work done.

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the sad part is that its not a government agency they answer to no one
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Old August 21st, 2012, 02:30 PM   #1610
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I have no image but There will be concrete barriers around the park and the towers to block truck/car bombs. NYPD doesn't anticipate any suicide bombings at the site.Thanks
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Old August 22nd, 2012, 11:58 AM   #1611
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...kTqxicny61BSxO

Fund raising for the 9/11 Memorial hurt by dispute with Port Authority, Bloomberg says

By JOSH MARGOLIN and DAVID SEIFMAN

The battle over control of the 9/11 Memorial and Museum has begun to hamper fund raising for the project, Mayor Bloomberg warned yesterday.

“It’s getting harder to raise money,” he said on his weekly WOR radio show.

“When we talk to them and try to solicit gifts, [they say], ‘Well, you know, what’s going to happen with the Port Authority [and] museum?’ ”

Bloomberg has helped the 9/11 memorial foundation raise more than half of the $700 million construction cost of the memorial and museum.

While the memorial plaza opened last September, there is no opening date for the museum because of a dispute that’s been raging for nearly a year with the PA over who will get to run the emotionally charged site.

“We’re working with them, and hopefully we can come up with a solution quickly,” said the mayor, who chairs the organization.

In the meantime, one source said, big donors who are being hit up in another round of fund-raising are questioning what’s going on with the project.

“There’s no panic mode,” the source said.

“The interest is still there. But it makes it more challenging when you want to go back to people who already gave.”

For months, both the mayor and the Port Authority gave the impression that their behind-the-scenes fight was over $150 million or so in infrastructure costs.

But Bloomberg said that’s essentially been resolved, with only $15 million separating the two sides “last time I tuned in.”

With the money matters largely settled, the real obstacle has proved to be control over the site — roughly one-half of the 16-acre World Trade Center complex.


The PA has insisted it retain permanent ownership of the entire 16 acres, regardless of day-to-day operations of the museum and memorial.

Despite his hard line in public, sources said, Bloomberg has softened his stance privately in an effort to restart the all-but-dead negotiations.

“Bloomberg himself has sent word he is willing to talk about the governance issues,” said one official briefed on the talks.

Although the mayor at first refused to move from his position, his new flexibility could well break the logjam in time for a final announcement before he leaves office in 2014.

Bloomberg said that there have been 4 million visitors so far to the memorial and that “it does not seem to be slowing,” even without the museum.

The 9/11 foundation’s annual fund-raiser next month is already sold out.

The PA and the Office of Gov. Cuomo, who with New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie controls the bi-state agency, did not comment.

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Old August 22nd, 2012, 04:07 PM   #1612
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Don't you think this should be a national site, because it is of national (and even world) importance?
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 12:20 AM   #1613
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I guess they also don't agree on who should pay for another half of a roof in a FEMA shelter.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 10:12 PM   #1614
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Haha that made me laugh
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Old August 24th, 2012, 07:47 PM   #1615
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I'm assuming once 4WTC opens next year the entrance to the memorial plaza will move over there correct, so they can finish West Street?
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Old August 24th, 2012, 08:21 PM   #1616
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I'm assuming once 4WTC opens next year the entrance to the memorial plaza will move over there correct, so they can finish West Street?
Not sure how it will all work out. The security screening entrance is in 90 West St at the moment. I hadn't thought of it moving into 4WTC, though that's a possibility. And not a bad spot since it's closer to the plaza and the southern end of Greenwich Street is supposed to be complete around the time 4WTC is opened.

It would be nice to see the final configuration of Greenwich and Liberty finished so the plaza could be truly "open". However there's likely to be a lot of construction still around the plaza (VSC, Liberty Park, and the Greek Orthodox Church) for a couple more years. And who knows when the PA/City/9-11 Museum will work out their differences and actually start finishing off the rest of the memorial plaza.
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Old August 29th, 2012, 12:08 AM   #1617
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Will the musuem open in 2012? Or is there no chance it will open in 2012?
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Old August 29th, 2012, 05:06 AM   #1618
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Will the musuem open in 2012? Or is there no chance it will open in 2012?
There is a chance but with all fighting and lawsuits going on probably not.

This is has to be most "corrupted" construction I ever see so far when it comes to pointing fingers and lawsuits.

Childish... and absurd.
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Old August 29th, 2012, 05:11 AM   #1619
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Even with the best logistical plan and schedule, the Museum won't open until 2013. There's still plenty of work to do (mainly MEP, masonry, carpentry and ornamental finishes) before it can open.
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Old August 29th, 2012, 05:24 AM   #1620
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What will this museum consist of? What will be featured there from the original world trade center?
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