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Old March 31st, 2013, 12:52 AM   #1801
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And the musuem will open... when?
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Old March 31st, 2013, 10:04 AM   #1802
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And the musuem will open... when?
Sept 11, 2014
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Old March 31st, 2013, 02:34 PM   #1803
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I expect fresh concrete to leach into the soil so the trees may have a set back for a short while then they will grow strong and tall : )
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Old March 31st, 2013, 04:18 PM   #1804
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I suspect that's one reason the trees looked so much better this past summer than the previous summer. In 2011 they had much more color variation from tree to tree (and even within a given tree), and were more more brownish green. One tree even died and had to be replaced.

Here they are on 13 Aug 2011 and 11 Sep 2011:

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Compare to 8 Aug 2012 and 9 Sep 2012:

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Old March 31st, 2013, 06:14 PM   #1805
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Sept 11, 2014
Why 2014? Why not in this year?
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Old April 1st, 2013, 01:38 AM   #1806
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Why 2014? Why not in this year?
First the agreement was struck too late to get the Museum opened in time for Sept 11, 2013. It was then scheduled to be opened in early spring 2014.

Then Hurricane Sandy caused extensive damage which caused another 6 months of delays.

If all goes well, it will open on Sept 11, 2014.
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Old April 2nd, 2013, 01:17 AM   #1807
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it looks like they started filling out the north east corner
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Old April 2nd, 2013, 12:43 PM   #1808
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They moved the fences a little bit yesterday evening - unfortunately they decreased the visitor area instead of increasing it, however, I hope they will move the fences in the opposite direction soon. Maybe that means that they place the pavers on top of the new concrete layer pretty soon..

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Old April 2nd, 2013, 11:36 PM   #1809
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Do they not take care of the grass at the memorial? It looks like they might have to replace it again soon...

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Old April 9th, 2013, 05:32 PM   #1810
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Another pour underway today on the NE quadrant!!
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Old April 10th, 2013, 05:35 PM   #1811
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When should the trees start to bloom? I thought they would have started already.
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Old April 10th, 2013, 06:31 PM   #1812
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The type of trees on the plaza besides the survivor tree don't bloom until the end of this month and throughout May...
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Old April 11th, 2013, 02:47 AM   #1813
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It looks like the survivor tree has finally started to bloom

So I was bored today and I tried to make a schematic of the trees that still have to be planted (yellow dots) on the memorial site.
I'm not totally sure about the south-eastern part of the memorial pavilion. I know they planted some trees in that section lately, but I'm not sure they planted them all the way up to the pavilion, so I just took the situation from the last photo of the 7WTC KPI cam.



(Picture from: http://www.pwpla.com/national-911-memorial)

Note that some of the tree locations, like the ones between the vent structures and along the north-east corner of the north pool, are temporarily covered by pavers.
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Old April 16th, 2013, 11:03 AM   #1814
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9/11 Memorial Reservations Now Cost $2

While walk-up visitors can still see the 9/11 Memorial free, people booking tickets in advance have to pay a $2 dollar fee, which was quietly instituted on March 1. The change has upset some September 11 victims' families who — despite being exempt from the fee — are angry that the foundation is making it more difficult for others to visit. "I think it’s an outrage. I mean, people are coming down there to pay their respects to the people that died that day. They shouldn’t have to pay, you can’t charge to get into a cemetery and I think they’re making this a revenue-generating tourist attraction," said Jim Riches, whose firefighter son died at the World Trade Center.

Sally Regenhard, whose son also died in the attacks, also lamented the "lack of reverence" and "the commercialization, the tourist trap type of atmosphere" of the memorial. Joe Daniels, the head of the 9/11 Memorial foundation, explained that the money is needed "to help support the operational needs" of the site, and that the charge will end when construction is completed and reservations are no longer necessary. However, as the New York Post points out, there will likely be "a $20 mandatory admission or a $25 suggested donation" to enter the 9/11 Museum, assuming it ever opens.

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Old April 17th, 2013, 12:35 AM   #1815
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New York Post points out, there will likely be "a $20 mandatory admission or a $25 suggested donation" to enter the 9/11 Museum, assuming it ever opens.
Why would it NOT open?
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Old April 17th, 2013, 12:41 AM   #1816
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Why would it NOT open?
That line is from the NY Post. It's what they do.

Of course it will open. But it's been twelve years since 9/11. And we're still a ways away from the underground museum opening. 2014 maybe? 2015? I'm not holding my breath. At this point my feeling is, it opens when it opens.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 01:43 AM   #1817
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$25 admission fee is just sheer greed
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Old April 17th, 2013, 10:49 PM   #1818
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There was always going to be a "suggested" admission fee to enter the underground museum, and 9/11 survivors and families were to be exempt.

This new $2 fee is for entering the above-ground memorial area and is to cover the cost of operating the reservation and screening systems. Once construction is finished the outdoor areas will be fully open to the street and there will be no access control and hence no fee. I don't see what the big deal is here.
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 03:49 AM   #1819
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60 Minutes aired a story on the museum tonight. It was pretty good, and offered some perspective of the space.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50145335n

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504803_1...e-9-11-museum/
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 09:35 PM   #1820
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Here's What's Inside The Long-Delayed 9/11 Museum

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The Twin Tower Tridents at the 9/11 Memorial Museum by RBudhu, on Flickr

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After flooding from Hurricane Sandy, funding debates and many other delays, the 9/11 Museum will finally open in about a year. 60 Minutes got a first look inside the National September 11 Memorial Museum, located seven stories below the memorial plaza, where the two fountains in the shape of the towers' imprints, surrounded by victims' names, stand. From this hard-hat video tour and interviews with board members, it emerges that the museum not only provides detailed information about the events of that day but also lays bare emotion-laden portrayals of the victims, recovery workers, and even the perpetrators.



Visitors will start by descending into the belly of the towers, past two 50-ton beams recovered from the wreckage, and will enter a room with columns of LED lights that resonates with voices of people all over the world talking about where they were when they heard about the attacks. Many of the exhibits contain large-scale artifacts; at one point visitors will descend alongside a staircase that many used as an escape route, and there will be a fire engine used on the day that had to be lowered in through the roof by a crane. The last column to be dismantled, covered in sentimental graffiti, will be spotlighted.



"Most museums are buildings that house artifacts," says museum director Alice Greenwald. "We're a museum in an artifact." Greenwald and others talk about the challenges involved, like cordoning off areas that are sensitive and graphic, for example, the part with images of those who tried to jump to escape. Voicemail messages left by people in the towers and on planes will be used sparingly and with permission.

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