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Old July 14th, 2012, 01:22 PM   #281
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I thought Chinese People resent the narcissistic CNN rather than the snobbish BBC. Or maybe both?
It's both...

What can we expect from their non-sense and aggressively biased reporting...
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Old July 14th, 2012, 03:45 PM   #282
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I thought Chinese People resent the narcissistic CNN rather than the snobbish BBC. Or maybe both?
Both are hated, but the BBC is better at shit stirring
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Old July 16th, 2012, 05:48 AM   #283
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Make better use of land! This is China, that's illegal. Buildings should be inconveniently spaced apart and surrounded by plants and fences. This makes it a pain just to cross the street. The greenery makes it look green eventhough the development is built for cars and is not pedesterian and bike friendly.

Tianjin has a very nice CBD I don't know why they can't just build these offices there. These buildings will never be full, its a GDP padding project. "If you build it they will come" worked in Pudong because it was conveniently located in the largest city in China. Tianjin isn't a small city, but this is in the middle of nowhere. I can just imagine how bad the food will be at the canteens they open in the basements of these buildings.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 07:08 AM   #284
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Make better use of land! This is China, that's illegal. Buildings should be inconveniently spaced apart and surrounded by plants and fences. This makes it a pain just to cross the street. The greenery makes it look green eventhough the development is built for cars and is not pedesterian and bike friendly.
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Tianjin has a very nice CBD I don't know why they can't just build these offices there. These buildings will never be full, its a GDP padding project. "If you build it they will come" worked in Pudong because it was conveniently located in the largest city in China. Tianjin isn't a small city, but this is in the middle of nowhere. I can just imagine how bad the food will be at the canteens they open in the basements of these buildings.
Wrong again.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:49 AM   #285
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Tianjin has a very nice CBD I don't know why they can't just build these offices there. These buildings will never be full, its a GDP padding project. "If you build it they will come" worked in Pudong because it was conveniently located in the largest city in China. Tianjin isn't a small city, but this is in the middle of nowhere. I can just imagine how bad the food will be at the canteens they open in the basements of these buildings.
You do realize that 285 of the Global Fortune 500 companies already have branch offices is Tianjin Binhai New Area? So apparently "they" are already coming.

In 2010 Foreign Direct Investment (not from the Chinese government) in Binhai reached 7,04 billion $.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:49 AM   #286
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Good supporting arguments!
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:51 AM   #287
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Being serious or sarcastic?
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Old July 16th, 2012, 08:59 AM   #288
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I was talking to the poster above you, sarcastically
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Old July 16th, 2012, 11:06 AM   #289
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As skyscraper fans, we should only be focused on the buildings and skylines themselves. Who cares if they get occupied or not. We like the towers themselves, not so much the economics behind it. Of course it would be best if its occupied, but it shouldn't bother us so much and it shouldn't be the focal point!!
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Old July 16th, 2012, 11:26 AM   #290
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You do realize that 285 of the Global Fortune 500 companies already have branch offices is Tianjin Binhai New Area? So apparently "they" are already coming.

In 2010 Foreign Direct Investment (not from the Chinese government) in Binhai reached 7,04 billion $.
Where in Binhai new area are these companies located now?
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Old July 16th, 2012, 12:06 PM   #291
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Where in Binhai new area are these companies located now?
If you look on Google Maps you can see an industrial/office zone north of the Xiangluowan Business District.
http://goo.gl/maps/9Hzc
  • EADS Airbus, Rockefeller, Nestle, Unilever, Motorola, Tishman Speyer, Chevron, Pepsi, Siemens, Toyota, HSBC, Citibank...
    Just to name some of the companies that already openend offices or plants in Binhai.
  • The world's 5th largest port (Tianjin Port) is only 5km away.
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Old July 16th, 2012, 02:19 PM   #292
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Make better use of land! This is China, that's illegal. Buildings should be inconveniently spaced apart and surrounded by plants and fences. This makes it a pain just to cross the street. The greenery makes it look green eventhough the development is built for cars and is not pedesterian and bike friendly.
Somewhat agree here. This project isn't the worst offender but could be a lot better.

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Tianjin has a very nice CBD I don't know why they can't just build these offices there.
Massive amounts of construction are also happening in Tianjin's old CBD. It's not an either-or scenario, it's both, and why not?

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These buildings will never be full, its a GDP padding project. "If you build it they will come" worked in Pudong because it was conveniently located in the largest city in China. Tianjin isn't a small city, but this is in the middle of nowhere. I can just imagine how bad the food will be at the canteens they open in the basements of these buildings.
Bullshit speculation. It is a possibility, but it is very unlikely that North China's premier financial district will remain empty for long. The entirety of North China doesn't have a project like this, while East China already has Lujiazui, and South China already has Zhujiang New City, and soon Qianhai. Also this isn't in the middle of nowhere. It's a little far away from the city center, near the coast, but within 10 years the urban areas of Tianjin city and Binhai New Area should be merged. There will also be a direct high-speed rail connection from Beijing and Tianjin city, and a metro line connecting to Tianjin city and other places in Binhai. In China things change FAST, Tianjin was a completely different city in 2000 (3rd world shithole, honestly), and will be a completely different city by 2020.

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Old July 16th, 2012, 09:23 PM   #293
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Where in Binhai new area are these companies located now?
At the moment, not in Binhai ... but all over the world!
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Old July 16th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #294
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At the moment, not in Binhai ... but all over the world!
He was talking about the plants and branch offices of those companies in Binhai, not about their company headquarters.
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Old July 17th, 2012, 02:08 AM   #295
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He was talking about the plants and branch offices of those companies in Binhai, not about their company headquarters.
So after all these companies move into their new Binhai offices, will the existing special economics zone just to the north be redeveloped?
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Old July 17th, 2012, 02:42 AM   #296
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Not for a while, the area isn't even full yet. But I could definitely envision some kind of redevelopment as the area grows into a large city, but really not for at least another decade.
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Old July 19th, 2012, 09:34 AM   #297
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Old July 19th, 2012, 12:22 PM   #298
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The render looks like Chicago on steroids.

Why is there a reflection of the Shanghai skyline in the water?
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Old July 19th, 2012, 01:36 PM   #299
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When is this going to be finished? or partly finished?
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It should be mostly done by 2014. A few buildings probably won't finish until 2020 though.
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