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Old April 24th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #101
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I don't understand why are they building a new bust station on Amsterdam Centraal. The central area is served by trams already. They could terminate all the buses in periphery stations like Sloterdijk, Amstel, Bijlmer, Zuid... without buses going within the main central area. Then, they could free those bus lanes for cars.

With the new Noordzuidlijn, the case for buses running from Centraal Station to northern areas disappear also.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 02:50 AM   #102
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You're absolutely right (for once ), but that is already the case. Amsterdam Centraal bus station is quite small compared to the bus stations at Utrecht Centraal, Nijmegen or Eindhoven, naming some random quite large Dutch bus stations I know, especially considering the difference in city and station size. The only buses terminating at CS are those that lack an alternative terminus, mostly from Westerpark, Noord, 'landelijk Noord' (Landsmeer, Edam, etc) & Zeeburg. I think the Noord-Zuidlijn will probably see some commuter peak time services disappear, yes. For the rest, these services will stay, and the new station isn't that huge, that is just the superstructure to make it look nice.
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Old April 25th, 2011, 12:06 PM   #103
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i thought (at least from my observation, i'm not Amsterdamer) that most buses that stop at Amsterdam Centraal Station are commuter buses to nearby cities and villages like Purmerend, Volendam, Edam, Hoofdorp, Zaandam, Amstelveen, etc. In that sense, i think it makes sense because these buses feed the passengers to the train and metro-tram network of Amsterdam
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Old April 25th, 2011, 03:45 PM   #104
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i thought (at least from my observation, i'm not Amsterdamer) that most buses that stop at Amsterdam Centraal Station are commuter buses to nearby cities and villages like Purmerend, Volendam, Edam, Hoofdorp, Zaandam, Amstelveen, etc. In that sense, i think it makes sense because these buses feed the passengers to the train and metro-tram network of Amsterdam
But as Suburbanist says, it would make more sense to send the buses to a metrostation at the edge of the city and feed the passengers to the public transport network of Amsterdam there, and keep the buses out of the inner city.
As far as i know, they are planning on doing this for some buses from the north (terminate them at Buikslotermeer).
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Old April 26th, 2011, 01:15 AM   #105
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Soon, end of this month, it will be possible for people to walk through the tunnel between Amsterdam Central Station and Rokin!
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Old April 26th, 2011, 06:06 PM   #106
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cool. where can we find information? or do you know when exactly it opens?
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Old April 27th, 2011, 12:33 AM   #107
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I don't have a exacte date yet.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 09:59 PM   #108
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cool. where can we find information? or do you know when exactly it opens?
Very soon it will be announced on the website of the Noord|Zuidlijn. For members of SSC on may 12 we have a tour in the first bored tunnel in Amsterdam. You can sign up here.
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Old May 12th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #109
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Here are my pictures from the very interesting tour in the new tunnel.

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Old May 29th, 2011, 01:57 PM   #110
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Some new artist's impressions of the Noord/Zuidlijn stations currently under construction are on display in the information centre. Quality is not really good as I had to photograph these impressions. They are bound to become available online though somewhere in the near future. If so, I (or someone else) will post them here.

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Buikslotermeerplein:



Van Hasseltweg:



Centraal Station:



Rokin:



Vijzelgracht:



Ceintuurbaan:

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Old June 6th, 2011, 01:01 AM   #111
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Unique tunneling operation underneath the Amsterdam CS historical building.

A whole metroplatform of the North/South Line immersed (–14.2 m) under the Amsterdam CS.





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Mijn dank gaat wederom naar Wuppeltje en de Dienst Noord/Zuidlijn voor het regelen van perstoegang tot het ponton en Overhoeks. Ik heel veel foto's kunnen maken, hier een selectie met een paar worden .


1. Om 7 uur vanochtend was er nog weinig te merken wat er zou gaan gebeuren.



2. Door de regen was het ook niet levendig op het ponton nadat alle officiële persactiviteiten naar een droge plek onder het busplatform waren verplaatst.



3. Alleen gaf dat geen mooie beelden en de achtergrond lawaai was ook niet echt handig voor een interview met de wethouder. Die bij elke cameraploeg leuk zijn PR verhaaltje kon vertellen.



4. En duurde en duurde maar, dan maar even naar de Over-kant.



5. Waar een mooie blik op het schouwspel te verwachten was.



6. Maar de regen kwam nog steeds uit de lucht en er kwam maar geen tunneldeel in de verte in zicht.



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11. Het was ook wel leuk geweest om mee te kunnen varen.



12. Het spandoek van de Dienst Noord/Zuidlijn had eigenlijk net iets te kleine letters.



13. De ponton was inmiddels ook weer helemaal volgestroomd met pers en genodigden.



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16. Bestemming bereikt.



17. Nu alleen nog een grote bocht om recht op de ingang van de sluis te komen te liggen.



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19. En hij staat recht.



20. Wij werden ook gefilmd.



21. Het ging toen allemaal zo langzaam dat ik besloot om toch maar weer naar beneden te gaan. Wat nog een heel avontuur was aangezien de lift boven eigenlijk niet open te krijgen was zonder brute kracht. Dan maar in het donker naar beneden met de trap hopend dat we een uitgang zouden bereiken.



22. Vanaf de wal nog een paar foto's genomen.



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24. om dan maar weer de pont naar de overkant te nemen.



25. Daar aangekomen was het tunneldeel al wel de sluis ingevaren.



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27. Al duurde het laatste stukje wederom iets te lang.

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Old July 22nd, 2011, 09:13 PM   #112
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Faregate Installation News:

Vancouver's system of fare gates and Compass Smartcards will be installed by Cubic, which has designed many large systems including London and San Francisco.

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Is there any plan to be installing barriers on the Amsterdam Metro like Vancouver intends doing?
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 10:42 PM   #113
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Is there any plan to be installing barriers on the Amsterdam Metro like Vancouver intends doing?
Most Amsterdam Metro stations already have gates working, including all the underground ones. Those that don't have barriers have smartcard readers people are supposed to use instead of touching the cards on the gates.

The barriers control enter and exit of the system, to calculate the proper fare. When you check-int, they withdraw € 4,00 from your smartcard (unless you have some travel pass). When you exit, the distance you traveled is calculated, therefore the fare, and your card is reimbursed between the difference of €4,00 - actual fare.

This mean, theoretically, someone might enter the system fare-dodging in an open station, and then be not able to exit at a gated station. There are some videos on youtube of youngsters angry they can't exit gated stations :p
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 11:41 PM   #114
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I just wondered if such installations be a worldwide trend, for that linked article claims Vancouver's own installation is to make its LRT network safer
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Old July 22nd, 2011, 11:52 PM   #115
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I just wondered if such installations be a worldwide trend, for that linked article claims Vancouver's own installation is to make its LRT network safer
In the case of Amsterdam (and also in Rotterdam), this is part of a national trend to gating all major stations (train/subway) as a national smartcard was rolled in. Amsterdam Centraal already have fare gates in place, it is jut they are not activated yet (they allow you to just walk by still).

This will severely reduce the need for employing conductors, which will save money.
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Old July 23rd, 2011, 10:52 PM   #116
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Ah! so their rationales appear different than Vancouver's, which, additionally-speaking, is wrapping in some element of fear
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 02:35 AM   #117
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Progress at the back of the station. At the back of the station there is a busstation under construction with 24 busstops (6 normal busses, 18 stops for bendy busses). 360 meter long and 60 meter wide. Until the beginning of september they are working 24 hours, 7 days a week. At the end november this year 3/4 will be ready. In 2013 they are going to finish it. 1/4 will be done in 2013, because there is also a subway/metro line under construction (-2), a tunnel for cars (-1) and a new entrance under (0) the busstation (+1). These 4 levels have to be completed first in order to construct the last part of the roof.



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Old August 9th, 2011, 12:19 AM   #118
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Fantastic project and thanks for the excellent postings.
Are they going to connect metro line 50 with lines 51, 53 and 54 at the main station?
It would appear logical and it might even be visible in the background of this rendering.

[IMG]http://i54.************/29kyqyx.jpg[/IMG]
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Fantastic project and thanks for the excellent postings.
Are they going to connect metro line 50 with lines 51, 53 and 54 at the main station?
It would appear logical and it might even be visible in the background of this rendering.

[IMG]http://i54.************/29kyqyx.jpg[/IMG]
No, that's not very logical as the demand for that connection is mostly met by the train from Sloterdijk to Centraal already.

It makes more sense to extend line 50 towards the future Johan van Hasseltweg in Noord to create new, previously non-existing connections.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #120
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Fantastic project and thanks for the excellent postings.
Are they going to connect metro line 50 with lines 51, 53 and 54 at the main station?
It would appear logical and it might even be visible in the background of this rendering.
No, but it is possible to do that. At the underground part of the Central Station reservations have been made so that they can connect 50 with the excisting lines 51, 53 and 54 above the North/Southline.
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