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Old June 5th, 2010, 02:00 AM   #1
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I was surprised that there's no San Diego Light Rail thread! So....

The San Diego Light Rail System is officially know as the San Diego Trolley...can't stand that name!... It is in fact a Light Rail system.

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The San Diego Trolley is a trolley-style(SIC) light rail system operating in the metropolitan area of San Diego, California. The operator, San Diego Trolley, Inc. (SDTI) is a subsidiary of the San Diego Metropolitan Transit System (MTS). The Trolley began service on July 26, 1981, and today operates three lines called Blue Line, Orange Line and Green Line. The San Diego Trolley is currently the sixth most-ridden light rail system in the United States, and is also the sixth oldest system in the United States.

San Diego Trolley initially used the same German-built Siemens-Duewag U2 vehicles as Edmonton and Calgary in Alberta, Canada as well as Frankfurt, Germany. The fleet has since been expanded to include the SD-100 and Avanto S70 vehicles manufactured by Siemens.

Only 2.7km(1.6 miles) of the San Diego Trolley operates at street level. The remainder in on elevated railways and former rail lines.

San Diego light rail system 'San Diego Trolley':

- 82 km(51 miles)
- 54 stops

- low platforms
- high-floor (with lift) and low-floor vehicles:
.... 71 Siemens U2 (1980-90) - high floor
.... 52 Siemens SD100 (1993-95) - high floor
.... 11 Siemens Avanto S70 (2004) - 70% low floor

3 lines:

Blue Line: Old Town - San Ysidro/Tijuana
Orange Line: 12th & Imperial - Gillespie Field
Green Line: Santee Town Center - Old Town

26 July 1981: 25.6 km (2.7 km on-street in downtown, rest former railway alignment)
....
10 July 2005: Mission San Diego - Grossmont Transit Center (9.5 km) including San Diego State University (SDSU) underground station.

Average daily passengers 119,000(2007)
Some photos I've found ..



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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: Qualcomm Stadium
Car: Siemens U2 1050
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 6/15/2002


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: Grantville
Car: Siemens SD70 3xxx
Photo by: Richard Panse
Date: 6/20/2007


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: Grantville
Car: Siemens SD100 2001
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 4/10/2008
Notes: Grantville Station inbound.


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Blue/Orange Line
Location: 12th & Imperial
Car: Siemens U2 1003
Photo by: Eric Haas
Date: 7/19/2000


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Blue/Orange Line
Location: America Plaza
Car: Siemens U2 1006/1033
Photo by: Richard Panse
Date: 6/20/2007


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Blue/Orange Line
Location: San Diego MTS Shops
Car: Siemens SD70 3007
Photo by: Salaam Allah
Date: 6/25/2005


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System: San Diego Trolley
Photo by: Eric Haas
Date: 7/19/2000
Notes: Interior of San Diego Trolley car


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Blue/Orange Line
Location: San Diego MTS Shops
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 2/4/1997
Notes: Looking down from San Diego Trolley Headquarters Building offices.


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: San Diego Trolley-Blue Line
Location: Santa Fe Depot
Car: Siemens U2 1071
Photo by: Richard Panse
Date: 6/20/2007


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: San Diego Trolley-Blue Line
Location: Grape Street Underpass
Car: Siemens SD100 2050
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 2/4/1997


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: Fashion Valley
Car: Siemens U2 1025
Photo by: Eric Haas
Date: 7/19/2000


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: San Diego Trolley-Orange Line
Location: 32nd & Commercial
Car: Siemens U2 1044
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 2/4/1997
Notes: Between 32nd and 47th Street Stations outbound.


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: SDSU Transit Center
Car: Siemens SD70 3005
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 4/10/2008
Notes: San Diego State University Station outbound. This is the only underground station on the San Diego Trolley system.
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Old June 5th, 2010, 05:11 PM   #2
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Some of my pics from February this year:











The San Diego Trolley is a lightrail, which - like its usual in North America runs on streets in the downtown and is indipendend from other traffic in the suburbs, unlike in Europe.
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Old June 5th, 2010, 05:12 PM   #3
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And the rest of the pics that i have:









It would be great if the Trolley would be extended towards airport and past it plus some north-south line in the donwtown.
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Old June 5th, 2010, 06:15 PM   #5
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Thanks for posting those great photos!

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It would be great if the Trolley would be extended towards airport and past it plus some north-south line in the downtown.
I agree with the airport extension. There was a plan to do so.but >>>. At first it was going to be a subway but the ground is to sandy..the airport is on land filled with sand. Next there was a great plan for an elevated line but there was no follow through by the MTS. Money problems..
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Old June 5th, 2010, 09:33 PM   #6
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More Photos!



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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: Fashion Valley
Car: Siemens U2 1006
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 7/16/2002


Quote:
System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: Fashion Valley
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 6/15/2002


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: San Diego Trolley-Blue Line(End of the line)
Location: San Ysidro/Tijuana
Photo by: Brian J. Cudahy
Notes: Late 1980s


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Blue/Orange Line
Location: 12th & Imperial
Car: Siemens SD100 2050
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 8/19/2003


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Blue/Orange Line
Location: San Diego MTS Shops
Car: Siemens SD100 2031
Photo by: Salaam Allah
Date: 6/25/2005


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: San Diego Trolley-Blue Line
Location: Santa Fe Depot
Car: Siemens U2 1043
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 11/13/2009
Notes: Outbound. Leaving Santa Fe Depot.


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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: Rio Vista
Car: Siemens SD70 3xxx
Photo by: Richard Panse
Date: 6/18/2007


This photos was taken on a San Diego Padres game day. Note the 4 car train and the date.

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System: San Diego Trolley
Line: Green Line
Location: Qualcomm Stadium
Car: Siemens SD100 2027
Photo by: Peter Ehrlich
Date: 6/16/2002
Notes: West of Qualcomm Station, showing a train in the west pocket and an outbound train approaching.
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Old June 5th, 2010, 10:34 PM   #7
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Looks great! I'd love to see and hear more about it
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i'd love an extension into pb (&beyond). how fast is ridership growing?
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Old June 6th, 2010, 11:59 PM   #10
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Thanks for posting comments and photos guys!

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i'd love an extension into pb (&beyond). how fast is ridership growing?
Ridership remains steady at about 120,000 a day..Monday-Friday.. Not sure about the weekends.

I'm going to San Diego at the end of July for my sons wedding..perhaps I'll snap a few pix!!

In reguards to PB..

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MTS endorses extending trolley from Old Town to University City
By Staff, City News Service
Thursday, May 13, 2010

Read more: San Diego Light Rail

The Metropolitan Transit System board Thursday endorsed a route for the proposed Mid-Coast extension of the San Diego Trolley from Old Town to University City.

The board voted unanimously to back the 11-mile “Light Rail Transit Alternative 1” as the preferred route among three analyzed by the San Diego Association of Governments, according to MTS spokesman Rob Schupp.

The path would take the trolley from the Old Town Transit Center along the east side of Interstate 5, to UC San Diego, then east along Voight Drive and Genesee Avenue to University Town Centre.

Eight new stations would be located at Tecolote Road, Clairemont Drive, Balboa Avenue, Nobel Drive, the west and east sides of UCSD, Executive Drive and UTC Transit Center, according to SANDAG.

“The extension of our trolley system north along the I-5 corridor into one of the most dynamic scientific research, health, academic, commercial and residential areas in San Diego will open up important markets for public transportation to better serve the region,” said Harry Mathis, chair of the MTS board.

MTS predicts the new line would generate up to 20,000 daily boardings.

SANDAG, the agency handling the planning for the Mid-Coast Corridor Transit Project, is now holding a series of scoping meetings on the proposed trolley extension. MTS runs the San Diego Trolley.

Schupp said Thursday’s vote was an opportunity for the MTS board to “weigh in” on which route it believes would generate the greatest ridership and best serve the community.

Schupp said Thursday’s vote was an opportunity for the MTS board to “weigh in” on which route it believes would generate the greatest ridership and best serve the community.

In other MTS news Thursday, the San Diego Association of Governments was awarded $1.59 million in funding Thursday from Caltrans to be used toward the purchase of 57 light rail vehicles for the San Diego Trolley’s Blue Line.

According to Caltrans, the new trolleys will increase light rail capacity and improve service.

The local funding was among $63.3 million Caltrans awarded Thursday for 111 public transit and air quality projects throughout California. The funding comes from Proposition B, a $3.6 billion transportation bond approved by voters in 2006.

Read more: http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2010-05...#ixzz0q6qK9cpw

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Here's a map of the SDT...From San Ysidro to downtown is about 15 miles. From downtown to Santee is about 22 miles

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Maybe the thread could be expanded to a general San diego transit thread and include the Coaster and Sprinter?

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Maybe the thread could be expanded to a general San Diego transit thread and include the Coaster and Sprinter?
OK I'll post some info and photos of the Sprinter tonight! But >. The Coaster is truly a railroad similar to LAs METROLINK. It is in no way light rail.

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The Sprinter is a diesel operated passenger rail line operating between Oceanside and Escondido, California, United States. The service uses the pre-existing 22 miles (35 km) Escondido Branch trackage of the San Diego Northern Railroad. Station platforms were constructed for the line’s fifteen stations serving the cities of Oceanside (western terminus), Vista, San Marcos, and Escondido (eastern terminus). The line provides service to Palomar College and California State University, San Marcos.

The Sprinter is operated by the North County Transit District of Oceanside, the area's public transit agency. The agency also operates the San Diego Coaster and Breeze Bus. Sprinter service is operated with Desiro-class diesel multiple units (DMU) manufactured by Siemens in Germany, where they are widely used by main-line regional railways. Twelve married pairs of Siemens VT642 Desiro DMUs were delivered to the Escondido Transit Center in August 2006. The vehicles were in acceptance testing in California during the early part of 2007. At Oceanside Transit Center, the Sprinter connects to three commuter rail lines (the Coaster, the Metrolink Orange County Line, and the Metrolink Inland Empire-Orange County Line) and Amtrak's Pacific Surfliner regional rail line.

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Nice updates on SD transit. Here is a SANDAG (regional transportation and planning commission) map of what they would like to see by 2050:

http://www.sandag.org/uploads/projec..._368_11148.pdf

And here is the link to other maps on propensity, commuters, and regional centers:

http://www.sandag.org/index.asp?proj...rojects.detail
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Nice updates on SD transit. Here is a SANDAG (regional transportation and planning commission) map of what they would like to see by 2050:

http://www.sandag.org/uploads/projec..._368_11148.pdf

And here is the link to other maps on propensity, commuters, and regional centers:

http://www.sandag.org/index.asp?proj...rojects.detail
When I first saw that map I thought I saw a trolley(LTR) line between Escondido and Otay through downtown..But wait that's an Express bus line..I remember back in the early 90s there was thought of running a Trolley line down I-15 to Escondido. But it was deemed that an electric train would not be able to pull the grade from Poway to Escondido with any real speed.
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San Diego had the first light rail system in the US, correct?
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Correct. Edmonton built the first North American Light Rail line.
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San Diego had the first light rail system in the US, correct?
Yes in 1981. The first line was from Downtown SD to the Mexican border. Many wanted to call the LRT the Tijuana Trolley. But that never did work out..

By the way I started an San Diego LRT thread on 04.06.2010

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