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Old June 28th, 2010, 01:33 PM   #101
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+1
getting your point here.. It'll be an addition to skyline, showing to world that we too have super-rich people living in a super-tall. If that is something you are proud of, then yes, it's iconic for you... but at the end, it's just a residential building - not a public place.
anyways, a great thing to look at for supertall-addicts..
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Old June 28th, 2010, 02:04 PM   #102
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its not about only rich....its about the building which is tall enough to show the world that india too have this kind of structures, well its really doesn't matters whether its residential or for office use
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Old June 28th, 2010, 03:12 PM   #103
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its not about only rich....its about the building which is tall enough to show the world that india too have this kind of structures, well its really doesn't matters whether its residential or for office use
+1. We just need few cities with a Great skyline irrespective of the towers are official/residential. Not just a show off factor for foreigners but the feel good factor for us as well, that yes we also have a city with a good skyline.

Though I would say 1 thing we should not blindly copy the architecture of foreign countries but have a unique architecture for most buildings that look Indian. Take a example of NY most of its buildings have unique architecture. We can also have highrises with Indian Architecture mixed with the modern Glassy Highrises.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 03:13 PM   #104
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plus think about it

people actually get employed in building this thing. so that shows you

(a) economy is healthy as there is demand

(b) unskilled labour getting money for the job
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Old June 28th, 2010, 03:31 PM   #105
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After all 'jo dikhta hai woh bikta hai'
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Old June 28th, 2010, 04:06 PM   #106
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Not just a show off factor for foreigners but the feel good factor for us as well
It doesn't make ME feel good to know that every single goddam house being built in this city (including a 20-odd km radius around it) is light years out of reach of even a fairly decently earning above-average Joe like myself.

While Mumbai reels under a serious middle-class housing crisis, we build more and more of these $%$%^$%^ white elephants to show the world we've "arrived".
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Old June 28th, 2010, 04:18 PM   #107
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It doesn't make ME feel good to know that every single goddam house being built in this city (including a 20-odd km radius around it) is light years out of reach of even a fairly decently earning above-average Joe like myself.

While Mumbai reels under a serious middle-class housing crisis, we build more and more of these $%$%^$%^ white elephants to show the world we've "arrived".
dude Sobo prices even for non skyscrapers are usually above 20,000

maybe places like Wadala Sweri and buyculla might be below that

but soon with the open land these places have will reach above 20000
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Old June 28th, 2010, 04:36 PM   #108
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Solution to your problem is not by stopping a great skyline and construction of contemporary buildings. It lies in freeing up 65% of Mumbai land that is encroached by non tax paying slummies and redeveloping those for mass housing projects. That is the solution adapted in high population cities like Shanghai and Seol. Just go to youtube or other pics in this thread, and you will be ashamed to the core, that the only city that India can EVER showcase to the world is 65% occupied by fuc*** slummies with the help of politicians and local goons. Nothing against them, but Govt and planners have failed to free 65% of land area for use of common middle class mumbaikers.

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It doesn't make ME feel good to know that every single goddam house being built in this city (including a 20-odd km radius around it) is light years out of reach of even a fairly decently earning above-average Joe like myself.

While Mumbai reels under a serious middle-class housing crisis, we build more and more of these $%$%^$%^ white elephants to show the world we've "arrived".
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Old June 28th, 2010, 04:53 PM   #109
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Solution to your problem is not by stopping a great skyline and construction of contemporary buildings. It lies in freeing up 65% of Mumbai land that is encroached by non tax paying slummies and redeveloping those for mass housing projects. That is the solution adapted in high population cities like Shanghai and Seol. Just go to youtube or other pics in this thread, and you will be ashamed to the core, that the only city that India can EVER showcase to the world is 65% occupied by fuc*** slummies with the help of politicians and local goons. Nothing against them, but Govt and planners have failed to free 65% of land area for use of common middle class mumbaikers.
dude they occupy 10% of land

where did you get this 65% figure from?

30% of the total land in greater mumbai is occupied by Sanjay Gandhi national park.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 04:57 PM   #110
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Solution to your problem is not by stopping a great skyline and construction of contemporary buildings. It lies in freeing up 65% of Mumbai land that is encroached by non tax paying slummies and redeveloping those for mass housing projects. That is the solution adapted in high population cities like Shanghai and Seol. Just go to youtube or other pics in this thread, and you will be ashamed to the core, that the only city that India can EVER showcase to the world is 65% occupied by fuc*** slummies with the help of politicians and local goons. Nothing against them, but Govt and planners have failed to free 65% of land area for use of common middle class mumbaikers.
+1 .

But 65% sounds too much ? Does it also include chawls and old bldgs ?
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Old June 28th, 2010, 05:05 PM   #111
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It doesn't make ME feel good to know that every single goddam house being built in this city (including a 20-odd km radius around it) is light years out of reach of even a fairly decently earning above-average Joe like myself.
Need not necessarily you buy everything. And when I meant Feel Good is we also have a decent skyline as the other major cities in the world (and not in terms if its affordable or not).
Won't you like to look at a fully litup good skyline in Mumbai/India people from other parts will also visit this city and look at the skyline and feel proud about India also has one.? Now where does the case of Buying a flat comes here ?
Even if there is a Big Palace like Bunglow would you say the same thing ? Because an above avg indian cannot afford in Big 2-3 floor Bunglow as well.
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Old June 28th, 2010, 07:05 PM   #112
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I never said World one needs to be scrapped. But surely some of these builders can make something REMOTELY affordable? Does everything have to be ultra-super-luxury-bell-and-whistle-bullcrap? What happpened to no-frills serviceable homes? Whither the 1 BHK that is the sore desperate need of this city?

Oh, and forget SoBo. That's why I made sure to mention within a 20km radius. I don't see any homes below 50L in that sphere.

Fortunately I do have a flat of my own, so this is not personal frustration. But to imagine that it would be difficult even for me to buy at currrent prices, what about those below?

Slums are only a part of the problem. An equal issue is the builders who toss you stuff at 50% "Super Builtup Area" loading, with extra charges for features you'll never use and don't particularly want to pay for in the first place.

Ah well I've made my point, no further thread-derailing necessary. Skyline-lovers rejoice.
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Old June 29th, 2010, 12:34 AM   #113
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This building has the money of our beloved politicians so it better get built!
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Old June 29th, 2010, 02:44 AM   #114
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I dont think any new building in Mumbai , even in places like Borivali will be in the reach of the average Mumbaikar anyways. Property prices are horribly inflated .
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Old June 29th, 2010, 08:12 AM   #115
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dude they occupy 10% of land

where did you get this 65% figure from?

30% of the total land in greater mumbai is occupied by Sanjay Gandhi national park.
yes only 8-10 % land occupied by slum....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housing_in_India#Cities
http://www.telegraphindia.com/105022...ry_4431588.asp
http://www.altlawforum.org/globalisa...slums-1-issues
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Old June 30th, 2010, 09:54 AM   #116
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yes only 8-10 % land occupied by slum....
My mistake, its 60% of Mumbai population who lives in Slums.. thats more than 7 million people.

http://www.macalester.edu/courses/ge...cer/slums.html

And we should also include all the ill planned 70-80 year old chawls and dilapidated buildings that keep catching fire or breaks down during rain.. The report says that slum area / slummy population is growing much faster rate than urban growth of Mumbai... thats BAD

I reacted to these set of mumbai pictures... just see the extent these non tax paying slummies have encroached prime areas, by force and by political vote bank blessing. Imagine these land reclaimed and redeveloped with FSI 4-5. It will work wonders !

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...611753&page=60

I dont mind builders getting rich... although some may be corrupt, all of them are performing and contributing to the economy by creating jobs, distributing wealth and making profit to reinvest in next project. They are much better than the blood sucking non performing politicians who give a damn to the country and its progress...
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Old June 30th, 2010, 11:06 AM   #117
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its 60% of Mumbai population who lives in Slums.. thats more than 7 million people.
its true,,, but we are talking about land....not population

also i think it includes old chawls....:

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Old June 30th, 2010, 12:59 PM   #118
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its true,,, but we are talking about land....not population

also i think it includes old chawls....:
Offcourse it includes chawls as well as old buildings. Not sure why they always mention the slum population of mumbai as 55% it always gives a wrong impression to the reader not knowing much.

I am again mentioning the source here

http://www.ctbuh.org/portals/0/event...ana_Mumbai.pdf

But 55% is only in case of Proper Mumbai. For entire MMR area the % should be less as there are comparatively less slums outside Proper Mumbai.

I think this % is decresaing due to redevelopment. As mentioned in my earlier post the current slum population was about 45% (I read in some news paper article where they were comparing slum population across india). Not sure if this is correct or not. But the Chawls and old bldgs mostly in Parel - Girgaum area should get redeveloped in 1-2 decades at max. So the % should reduce drastically. But cannot say about proper slums they may be increasing as well as reducing(due to redevelopment)
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Old June 30th, 2010, 11:58 PM   #119
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how about we get back on topic
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Old July 6th, 2010, 06:00 AM   #120
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The sales gallery/office on Srinivas Mills opened on June 18th. More images here




There's an e-brochure PDF hidden in one corner of world-one's website. Link

from it, a site map which shows the footprint of the tower and the additional landbank they have:



..and 2 additional artist's impressions:



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