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Old June 14th, 2010, 09:30 PM   #41
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ours is pretty freakin bad..



i throw up a little in my mouth everytime i see it.
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Old June 14th, 2010, 10:05 PM   #42
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Boston's is the worst one I've seen on here thus far. I'm not a huge fan of Toronto's, but its not the worst thing I've ever seen!
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Old June 14th, 2010, 10:51 PM   #43
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Several of these are not bad at all. I'll defend Toronto City Hall. I always liked that one. Boston is a good example of Brutalism and it is definitely not pretty.
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Old June 15th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #44
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I like Toronto's City Hall, too. A good example of modern representative architecture. Boston City Hall is crap.

Now let's have a look at the German candidates. Not sure if they can compete with Boston or Tel Aviv, but at least they are terribly boring.

Stuttgart has been mentioned already.

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These ones (as well as many others in smaller towns) could be ordinary insurance headquarters as well. You wouldn't think they are municipal buildings if you don't know they are.

It has to be mentioned that most of the cities featured above have really cute historic town halls that are no longer in use.
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Old June 15th, 2010, 06:31 PM   #45
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I prefer Toronto's old City Hall but the new(er) one is fine. I agree that it needs a facelift. New glass would be a huge improvement. As for ugly? My vote goes to Boston's City Hall. It's even worse in person.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 02:52 AM   #46
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I like Toronto's City Hall, too. A good example of modern representative architecture. Boston City Hall is crap.
But really is that modern architecture? It actually upsets me that people think Toronto's City Hall is attractive, or at the very least frustrates me... it's like calling Drew Barrymore hot. To me that entire time period of architecture (the Brutalist phase) was a mistake - just how Drew Barrymore is only in movies because of who her family is, you people are only calling Brutalist architecture nice because it is from your time. Though maybe I'm wrong.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 03:36 AM   #47
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Athens hasn't one worthy of mentioning either. Surely not in relation to the city's size that is. Toronto's is way above average, so I can't get the point of the thread.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 11:48 AM   #48
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But really is that modern architecture? It actually upsets me that people think Toronto's City Hall is attractive, or at the very least frustrates me... it's like calling Drew Barrymore hot. To me that entire time period of architecture (the Brutalist phase) was a mistake - just how Drew Barrymore is only in movies because of who her family is, you people are only calling Brutalist architecture nice because it is from your time. Though maybe I'm wrong.
I wouldn't call Toronto's City Hall architecture Brutalism. It reminds me of the UN headquarters in NY, for instance, but with a bit more sex-appeal. Of course, the massive concrete walls on the outside are no real beauty. But Brutalism (which I hate, too) features more excessive use of concrete, making the buildings look kind of 'heavy'... like ugly modern fortresses. Toronto's City Hall still has got some kind of elegance.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 07:53 PM   #49
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In my mind a city hall is a token which should represent the history of a city and in a sense symbolize a city's identity.
And it sure does - it was a product of a city-wide plebiscite and grew out of the first civic square in Toronto; it is very late 50's/60's in its design and though it may not show it now, it was entirely forward looking in the same way Toronto was [for the first time during this period]; and, while you may not agree, Toronto Council felt it symbolized Toronto enough to put it on the flag. Frankly, while I love Old City Hall, it could be one of many colonial- and post-colonial era buildings that dot the old British Empire. If you photoshopped it into old Melbourne or Winnipeg or even little Cobourg, Ontario, it'd fit right in. Not very "representative" of Toronto unless what's being represented is sameness. Anyways, that said, it's time for a facelift and hopefully the Nathan Phillips Square renovation project will help.
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Old June 16th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #50
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But really is that modern architecture? .
Yes it is. You are confusing "Modern" with "Contemporary". The first refers to an architectural style "Modernism", and the second refers to buildings that are reasonably new. Toronto City Hall is "Modernist", and was designed a generation before "Brutalism" came on the scene. Your City Hall in Burlington could also be called "Modernist".

A picture is worth a thousand words, so I did a little tour of Nathan Philips Square in Toronto yesterday. I invite you to come in from Burlington some day, jayks1, and have a good look around! I think once you get to know Toronto, and its City Hall, you may discover that truer words were never spoken:

"In my mind a city hall is a token which should represent the history of a city and in a sense symbolize a city's identity"












Lunch!!







They had to install little mesh gates to prevent skateboarders from trying to use the arches!





The Square has always been very popular with Torontonians and tourists alike, and is one of the focal points of our city, both in winter and summer.



Let's walk up one of those gentle sloping ramps, and see the beautiful new garden installed on the roof of the council chambers:



It has become an instant hit with visitors, and goes all around the building:











Let's have a closeup look at the careful attention that was paid to construction:



the visual texture and light/dark play was created by painstakingly attaching strips of rough stone to the concrete backing:





I find it hard to believe this futuristic looking building was designed well over half a century ago:









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Old June 16th, 2010, 09:41 PM   #51
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Wow! Great pictures of a very nice square and great building.
A couple of pages ago I liked it, now I LOVE it!
Thanks, Taller Better.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 06:26 AM   #52
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City Hall is the best piece of archtecture in Toronto IMO.

It has enormous symolism with the arches hugging/defending the council chamber which then opens up onto the square, the place for the people to congregate (protest, celebrate, pontificate, etc). It is exactly what a city hall should be.

From the inside, it is great. I am more inpsired when I walk inside the building. The council chamber explodes from the very core of the building.

And from above, it is shaped like an eye, a reminder to everyone that works there that they need to keep close watch on the city, and that the city is keeping close watch on them (dang shame that amalgamation has impacted the focus of that gaze).

Despite all the poor behaviour present in municipal politics, this is certainly a building that commands respect from its occupants.
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urgly???
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Hey, I'm from the Toronto area and I can't help notice how ugly the current Toronto city hall is (bellow) and cannot understand 1) why it was built in the first place? 2) why the city doesn't go back to its old city hall (second picture bellow, which initially was supposed to be demolished, why? I have no idea). Just wondering if any other cities have decided to cast away beautiful classic buildings in favour of hideous post modern - in Toronto's case alien space ship lookalike - buildings. As well as what others opinions are on this practice of replacing classics with bunkers... Penn Station cough cough.



Because progressives and socialists in the 60's and 70's despised the old architecture and found it burgeois. Instead they wanted new architecture, completely free of traditional elements.

Blame the commies!
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Old June 17th, 2010, 07:37 PM   #55
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I like the old one, far more attractive.
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Old June 17th, 2010, 08:16 PM   #56
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Well, the "old one" is still there, in complete usage and has gone nowhere so we are able to use and enjoy both. The proposal by a developer back in the 60's was easily shot down by the public.
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Old June 18th, 2010, 07:32 PM   #57
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On SSCXL it's Tokyo City Hall vs Toronto City Hall. Let's see who wins.
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Old March 17th, 2011, 10:06 AM   #58
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Hey, I'm from the Toronto area and I can't help notice how ugly the current Toronto city hall is (bellow) and cannot understand 1) why it was built in the first place? 2) why the city doesn't go back to its old city hall (second picture bellow, which initially was supposed to be demolished, why? I have no idea). Just wondering if any other cities have decided to cast away beautiful classic buildings in favour of hideous post modern - in Toronto's case alien space ship lookalike - buildings. As well as what others opinions are on this practice of replacing classics with bunkers... Penn Station cough cough.



Really?!!! I always thought it was one of the most beautiful - and I'm from Buffalo originally! (love Buff's city hall).

I think Toronto's City Hall is simply stunning and timeless...
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I think the current Las Vegas City Hall is the ugliest one I've ever seen.





They are currently planning on building a new one in a completely different location, and swapping the site with a developer.

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Old March 18th, 2011, 01:16 AM   #60
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My hometown Neubrandenburg has a beautiful city hall:



Luckily they didn't rebuild the old one wich was destroyed in the war:



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