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Old August 19th, 2010, 09:18 AM   #61
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we clearly need to bump up migration to 1million per annum so we don't feel so insignificant to brasil...

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This topic of population growth has been argued to death on other topics - eg Population statistics thread, Dick Smith etc.
Australia, and indeed the whole of the southern hemisphere lacks a "mega-city" like a Tokyo or New York, or God forbid - a Mexico City.
Increased population does not mean wages dropping down the Third World levels, as you are suggesting, tongue in cheek.
The internet is over-represented with those with green intentions, such as no more population, no mines, no coal-powered electricity etc.
The problem is that they offer no alternative to what they are proposing, other than the decimation of jobs and export earnings.
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This topic of population growth has been argued to death on other topics - eg Population statistics thread, Dick Smith etc.
Australia, and indeed the whole of the southern hemisphere lacks a "mega-city" like a Tokyo or New York, or God forbid - a Mexico City.
Increased population does not mean wages dropping down the Third World levels, as you are suggesting, tongue in cheek.
The internet is over-represented with those with green intentions, such as no more population, no mines, no coal-powered electricity etc.
The problem is that they offer no alternative to what they are proposing, other than the decimation of jobs and export earnings.
What do you mean by "the southern hemisphere lacks a mega city" ?

Sao Paulo has 20 million habitants, very similar figures to New York City and Mexico City. The southern hemisphere already has its megacity, which is Sao Paulo.
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Old August 19th, 2010, 04:43 PM   #63
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What do you mean by "the southern hemisphere lacks a mega city" ?

Sao Paulo has 20 million habitants, very similar figures to New York City and Mexico City. The southern hemisphere already has its megacity, which is Sao Paulo.
Or Jakarta. Which is bigger. Jakarta is bigger. Than Sao Paolo. Which is poor as.
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Old August 19th, 2010, 08:48 PM   #64
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Or Jakarta. Which is bigger. Jakarta is bigger. Than Sao Paolo. Which is poor as.

you have non-sense of what is talking about ...
your comment makes me vomit .. what the problem in accepted São Paulo as the biggest city in south hemisphere ???
there might be somthing wrong in the water which you drinking
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Old August 19th, 2010, 09:18 PM   #65
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I really don't have ANY intention whatsoever to start any kind of discussion, but I'm really sorry that people think bad of São Paulo or Mexico City or Jakarta, for what matters. Just because a city has a share of its population living in poverty it does not mean it is a poor city.
I live in São Paulo now and I've already lived in Europe (Lisbon) for some years, and I can say there is a LOT of wealth here. I mean, there is a mall with Louis Vuitton, Channel and Hermès as the flagship stores!

Stupidities aside, there are many topics in the Brazilian Forums which have pictures of our city; I recommend this one: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=852656
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Old August 20th, 2010, 05:29 AM   #66
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I can say there is a LOT of wealth here. I mean, there is a mall with Louis Vuitton, Channel and Hermès as the flagship stores!
Wow! Congratulations! Here, have a cookie...
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Old August 20th, 2010, 06:05 AM   #67
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Only Louis Vuitton, Channel and Hermès manufactured cookies please. We have a LOT of wealth here.
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Old August 20th, 2010, 06:50 AM   #68
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this is a heaps good thread on St Petersburg. A very wealthy city from all reports
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Old August 20th, 2010, 07:38 AM   #69
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I mean, there is a mall with Louis Vuitton, Channel and Hermès as the flagship stores!
So does Chadstone. Do you see me rushing off to live in Oakleigh?
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Old August 22nd, 2010, 12:47 AM   #70
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So does Chadstone. Do you see me rushing off to live in Oakleigh?
Ok, I agree his comment was childish, not to say ridiculous, but you don´t have to be rude. Can we please move on?
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Old August 22nd, 2010, 02:19 AM   #71
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Ok, I agree his comment was childish, not to say ridiculous, but you don´t have to be rude. Can we please move on?
It's your thread.
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Old August 22nd, 2010, 06:38 AM   #72
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Sao Paulo has beautiful green neighbourhoods, with large homes and lush vegetation, like the Jardins area:
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Old August 22nd, 2010, 06:57 AM   #73
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The internet is over-represented with those with green intentions, such as no more population, no mines, no coal-powered electricity etc.
The problem is that they offer no alternative to what they are proposing, other than the decimation of jobs and export earnings.
lol. green intentions over-represented... yeh alright, when we fvck up this planet we could always just move to venus... you are a damn fool for thinking there are no alternatives... there are alternatives, tha issue is it costs money and no one is willing to suck it up and also make people change their lifestyle choices...

let's look at hybrid cars, do you see people rushing out to buy them? if you convert a nation's passenger fleet to hybrid... there is a significant impact, but do you know what tha leading reason as to why people don't want it? it doesn't have any grunt. oh my.

yes sao paolo is very nice indeed. isn't it lovely to see that joint looking after its small minorities... something else australia can aspire to...
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 03:41 AM   #74
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Australians have a reputation for not like foreign, why ?
now I'm remembering a case where a Brazilian was beaten by a group of gold cost
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He proberly had it coming to him.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 05:39 AM   #76
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I mean, there is a mall with Louis Vuitton, Channel and Hermès as the flagship stores!

Stupidities aside, there are many topics in the Brazilian Forums which have pictures of our city; I recommend this one: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=852656
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Knob, Hong Kong has these stores on every street corner, you are delusional if you think you're special with a mall and a couple of tier 1 branded shops.
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Old August 23rd, 2010, 12:53 PM   #77
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Knob, Hong Kong has these stores on every street corner, you are delusional if you think you're special with a mall and a couple of tier 1 branded shops.
I totally agree with you. Designer shops can be found in every major city in the planet like Hong Kong, Sao Paulo, Shangai or New York.

Something Hong Kong can´t dream of and Sao Paulo is full of, on the other hand, are lush residential neighbourhoods like the one I posted in my previous post.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 06:26 AM   #79
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I don't understand why you guys are attacking Sao Paulo. If you people don't like Maria Theresa, thats one thing, but channelizing into the city of Sao Paulo your anger for MT doesn't really change the facts... Sao Paulo is already a very rich city, and is ever ascending. I don't think you guys would like it if foreigners depreciated Australian cities. Despite in agreeing that SP does have some not very delightful views, I would love to visit it someday.
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Old August 24th, 2010, 07:28 AM   #80
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i have visited brasillia, it is like brazil's canberra - a city that was created in the middle of nowhere and lacks soul. it has some nice buildings.. but that's about it. maybe it's a great place to live?? but fsck it is a terrible place to visit.

i have visited sao paulo.. it is a congested, dangerous, bland, imposing city. that said, it has great culture, cool people and an excellent nightlife. so long as you don't get stabbed or die of air pollution.

these cities might have lots of money in aggregate... but the general standard of living in brazil is very poor. to claim them as the 'richest cities in the southern hemisphere' is to take a consolation prize they don't deserve.
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