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Old December 19th, 2008, 05:36 PM   #161
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New London Routemasters Unveiled

Aston Martin designs Routemaster
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19 December 2008

The New Buses -


The Aston Martin-Foster design has solar panels


The Capoco Design retains the Routemaster-style front engine

Sports car manufacturer Aston Martin is joint winner of a competition to design a new Routemaster bus for London.

The Warwickshire-based firm's winning entry was a team effort with leading architects Foster and Partners.

They share the £25,000 first prize with bus, coach and truck design firm Capoco Design, based in Wiltshire.

A Transport for London spokesman said the first of the greener and more accessible, hop-on hop-off, double-deckers could be in service by 2011.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7790082.stm





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Old December 19th, 2008, 05:40 PM   #162
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Old December 19th, 2008, 07:55 PM   #163
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Gross.
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Old December 19th, 2008, 11:15 PM   #164
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what a farce
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Old December 19th, 2008, 11:49 PM   #165
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Is this a joke?

I realise Boris's main election pledge was to introduce cartoon buses, but they look like they've been designed by a child.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 02:12 AM   #166
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Old December 20th, 2008, 05:51 AM   #167
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Isn't it inefficient to employ 2 people to operate this kind of bus when it can be done with 1 for other buses?
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Old December 20th, 2008, 07:10 AM   #168
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Reminds me of Thomas the Tank Engine. Can we call it Bernie the Bus ?
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Old December 20th, 2008, 07:45 AM   #169
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This is not going to happen, the cost will be too high. What you see here is just a CAD for the £25,000 competition. Who is going to pay the huge development cost's of this with a cash strapped transport dept and with dire economic prospects for 2009? It's just not worth it, is there anything really wrong with London's current fleet? Money should be spent where it matters, like fuel efficient technology for the next oil spike, passenger comfort and safety, not on gimmicks like this.
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It is all just a joke I reckon. There is no way Borris is gonna pay to go back to two person operation and besides who is going to build these and how many low floor front engined chassis are there on the market? I mean it would have to be one company, so there goes competition in the market. Also won't there be safety issues with an open rear platform and spiral staircase? Remember the UK is a nanny state these days, not so when the original was in designed.

It is time London just got over the routemaster and leave it to historic routes and have good quality conventional buses operating the day to day commuter routes.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 03:43 PM   #171
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About the two persons operation, some urban networks in Europe went back to it: Amsterdam tram's 10 years ago and the suburban night buses in Paris 5 years ago.
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Old December 20th, 2008, 07:29 PM   #172
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This is not going to happen, the cost will be too high. What you see here is just a CAD for the £25,000 competition. Who is going to pay the huge development cost's of this with a cash strapped transport dept and with dire economic prospects for 2009? It's just not worth it, is there anything really wrong with London's current fleet? Money should be spent where it matters, like fuel efficient technology for the next oil spike, passenger comfort and safety, not on gimmicks like this.
Agreed. Enviro 500H would've been a better choice~
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Mini Cooper, Volkswagen Beatle, Fiat Cinquecento... London traditional taxis... and now, Routemaster buses....

It is impressive to see that the old lines are renewed, preserving the original essence, with an update, improving all the little issues that needed updating.

I hope to see the buses on the road.
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Like I said in a similar thread, these look like toys.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 01:59 PM   #176
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Can we move on now?

Hopefully sense will prevail and these are NEVER built. TfL should be about appeasing the needs London's commuters NOT fueling stereotypes of London for tourists from yesteryear.

All this is a complete waste of money. Could Boris' TfL actually consult the people who use the bendy routes?? Thank you.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 05:00 PM   #177
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Mini Cooper, Volkswagen Beatle, Fiat Cinquecento... London traditional taxis... and now, Routemaster buses....

It is impressive to see that the old lines are renewed, preserving the original essence, with an update, improving all the little issues that needed updating.
They just vaguely resemble their forerunners, apart from that they have nothing to do with them.

Scrapping perfectly efficient buses and replacing them with a new model to be built from scratch... yeah, sounds like a cool idea.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 07:03 PM   #178
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YAAAY! Routemasters are back!
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 01:38 AM   #179
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Well, I don't live in London, but I live in a region where this sort of thing comes up quite often. As they do here, surely each bus in your fleet of current Roadmasters are depreciating at the rate of one year per year?

IOW they're going to be old someday, if they aren't now, and it would be a shame for a city as important to world finance and culture as London to have nothing in place to supplant them when their time comes.

As to the cartoonishness of the A-M designs, maybe so.. but I rather like the extended visibility of the windscreens in the renders, and the appearance that it's a little more green than its predecessor.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 09:20 AM   #180
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Yes, TfL has identified the most expensive way possible to procure a transit bus. The more "specialized" you make any transit vehicle, the more the costs go up. Not exactly the most fiscally prudent way to go. Why London can't seem to be able to use any other of the multitudes of other standardized transit buses being sold around the world to transit systems equally as big as theirs, I have no clue. Its amazing that taxpayers aren't up in arms.
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