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Old May 15th, 2012, 04:55 PM   #241
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So...is this past "app" and already into "prep"?? Even without renders? Anyone know how much longer until renders, info or meetings?
Not yet. They still need to relocate a retail tenant and demolish one of the existing buildings on this project's lot.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 04:58 PM   #242
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Then the title should be changed to demo
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Old May 15th, 2012, 06:57 PM   #243
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Only three words pop up in my mind.

BUILD IT NOW
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Old May 15th, 2012, 09:41 PM   #244
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And build it at least 1400 feet
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Old May 15th, 2012, 09:43 PM   #245
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They should make it taller than 432 park to show them what it's like to be stripped so quickly of the 'New York's tallest." title.
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Old May 15th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #246
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They should make it taller than 432 park to show them what it's like to be stripped so quickly of the 'New York's tallest." title.
A new skyscraper race (ESB vs. Chrysler) coming up? Exciting thought.


(though I still don't like ESB being hidden... It's a desaster, really.)
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Old May 15th, 2012, 11:11 PM   #247
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Because it stands on the south end of midtowns skyline, and that pic is from a low point.

( Indeed it's great to see a new skyscraper race, only then it were three world's tallest title holders in two years and now it's for NYC's tallest. )
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Old May 16th, 2012, 03:39 AM   #248
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If this, the Verre or the Penn Plaza are completed before the 2WTC, that would be pathetically funny, haha..

..seeing as these 3 aren't haven't even begun cons. yet (not to mention this one doesn't even have renders yet)..but I honestly really wouldn't doubt it, and it is possible that any of these 3 can be complete beofre the 2WTC or even 3WTC.. as 2WTC and 3WTC are growing like snails...hhahaha
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Old May 16th, 2012, 07:22 AM   #249
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A new skyscraper race (ESB vs. Chrysler) coming up? Exciting thought.


(though I still don't like ESB being hidden... It's a desaster, really.)
Is someone installing a 1250 ft. tall blanket over the ESB?
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Old May 16th, 2012, 07:47 AM   #250
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A new skyscraper race (ESB vs. Chrysler) coming up? Exciting thought.


(though I still don't like ESB being hidden... It's a desaster, really.)
The ESB has had its' run, I for one am stoked for new massive towers in NYC.

I love ESB by the way, but it's 81 years old, it's time to move on.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 07:59 AM   #251
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The ESB has had its' run, I for one am stoked for new massive towers in NYC.

I love ESB by the way, but it's 81 years old, it's time to move on.
Wait, who said this would be more then 381 meters ?
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Old May 16th, 2012, 08:02 AM   #252
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but it's 81 years old, it's time to move on.
I know exactly whatcha mean.... Sears/Willis has been USA's and N-America's tallest for 40 years... it's about time we get a new tallest building.
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Wait, who said this would be more then 381 meters ?
http://www.commercialobserver.com/20...-gary-barnett/


According to sources outside the developer, Mr. Barnett has tapped another Pritzker firm, Herzog & de Meuron, of 40 Bond fame, to build a 1,250-foot residential tower at Broadway and 57th Street.

Yes, One57 was not enough. When it stops being the best, this project, and so many others, will be ready to carry on the legacy. When asked about the project, Mr. Barnett did not deny it, though he noted that, “Nothing had been settled, not the height, not the architect.” So be it. Perhaps now that Harry Macklowe’s 432 Park is climbing toward 1,395 feet, maybe Mr. Barnett wants to build a 1,400-foot tower.
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Old May 16th, 2012, 12:21 PM   #254
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ESB needn't to be the tallest,it's same as space needle in seattle,though space needle is much shorter than the buildings around columbia center,it's still looks very attractive.
Now even Shanghai this kind of city has Megatall,and a lot of cities has the buildings taller than ESB,it's time to build the taller towers.
But do better not to build taller towers too close to ESB.
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No one was talking about limiting skyscraper height in general. I said I don't want ESB to be hidden all around by taller towers. It's Manhattan's main landmark and always will be (just as Eiffel Tower for Paris, for instance).

Simple as that.
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No one was talking about limiting skyscraper height in general. I said I don't want ESB to be hidden all around by taller towers. It's Manhattan's main landmark and always will be (just as Eiffel Tower for Paris, for instance).

Simple as that.
I completely agree with you. Empire State is a fantastic icon, and like you said, just like the Eiffel Tower. I'd love for new supertalls and perhaps megatalls to be built in NYC, but they should focus on areas away from the ESB when it comes to buildings of the same or greater height. It's exactly why I'm against the Penn Plaza building, a fantastic design for the city, but I personally don't agree with the location.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 12:37 AM   #257
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The physical makeup of Manhattan's skyline has always and will continue to be a reflection of raw, unfettered capitalism. There is no governing body with any form of real control over the skyline, nor should there be. This tower or something similar to it will rise on this site no matter what, so it's time to stop bumping this thread with complaints about it.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 01:57 AM   #258
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The Empire State building is like the Eiffel Tower. Empire will still remain the historic landmark, even with tall buildings rising near it. The Tour Montparnasse in Paris is built close to the Eiffel Tower, and is nearly as tall, yet the Eiffel Tower is still better known.

TL;DR: The Empire State Building will still be the most famous landmark in NYC.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 03:46 AM   #259
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The Tour Montparnasse in Paris is built close to the Eiffel Tower, and is nearly as tall, yet the Eiffel Tower is still better known.
It's not that close. And esp. Montparnasse is the perfect example of what shouldn't be done: Trying to endanger a city's main built landmark with futile phallus erection.

Montparnasse is considered as the major failure of Paris post-war urban planning. Same could be said for Manhattan's greedy replacement culture (sacrificing even major landmarks such as the Singer Building and Penn Station) and the fact it's continuesly neglecting its greatest landmarks by disrespecting their surrounding aura.
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http://www.commercialobserver.com/20...-gary-barnett/


According to sources outside the developer, Mr. Barnett has tapped another Pritzker firm, Herzog & de Meuron, of 40 Bond fame, to build a 1,250-foot residential tower at Broadway and 57th Street.

Yes, One57 was not enough. When it stops being the best, this project, and so many others, will be ready to carry on the legacy. When asked about the project, Mr. Barnett did not deny it, though he noted that, “Nothing had been settled, not the height, not the architect.” So be it. Perhaps now that Harry Macklowe’s 432 Park is climbing toward 1,395 feet, maybe Mr. Barnett wants to build a 1,400-foot tower.
That sounds like the editor said that, not Mr Barnett
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