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Old May 17th, 2012, 08:50 AM   #261
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^Yea but I was just saying the height isn't decided yet.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 01:23 PM   #262
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The physical makeup of Manhattan's skyline has always and will continue to be a reflection of raw, unfettered capitalism. There is no governing body with any form of real control over the skyline, nor should there be. This tower or something similar to it will rise on this site no matter what, so it's time to stop bumping this thread with complaints about it.
Capitalism has played a roll in the skyline but so has the government. After the initial spree of skyscraper construction, all kinds of ordinances were enacted, covering everything from modes of egress, to street facade and setback requirements etc. For better or worse, government greatly influences the Manhattan sky line. The story of this tower illustrates that phenomenon nicely.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 05:23 PM   #263
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The physical makeup of Manhattan's skyline has always and will continue to be a reflection of raw, unfettered capitalism. There is no governing body with any form of real control over the skyline, nor should there be. This tower or something similar to it will rise on this site no matter what, so it's time to stop bumping this thread with complaints about it.
Well said.

The discussion about NY potentially protecting sight lines does not belong in this thread. This is about the development of 225 W 57th St. If people want to discuss the possibility of the city protecting sight lines or whatever, make a different thread.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 09:19 PM   #264
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I'd put my money on another 432 Park.
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Old May 17th, 2012, 10:25 PM   #265
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I hope, you're right
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Old May 18th, 2012, 03:36 AM   #266
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The Empire State building is like the Eiffel Tower. Empire will still remain the historic landmark, even with tall buildings rising near it. The Tour Montparnasse in Paris is built close to the Eiffel Tower, and is nearly as tall, yet the Eiffel Tower is still better known.

TL;DR: The Empire State Building will still be the most famous landmark in NYC.

Yea, I like to think of the ESB as a much taller version of Philadelphia's city hall, imagine if City hall was still the tallest in Philly, the skyline would be on par with Phoenix or San Diego, so it's a good thing it got much taller fast, and now the same is happening in NYC. It's a wonderful thing.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 03:39 AM   #267
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that's a good analogy actually
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Old May 18th, 2012, 06:17 AM   #268
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I hope, you're right
I meant that in a bad way, dull, bland as-of-right design.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 11:50 PM   #269
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I meant that in a bad way, dull, bland as-of-right design.
Kanto loves that kind of a design.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 11:59 PM   #270
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New York needs more minimalist designs like this one.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 12:27 AM   #271
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No we don't. We need more eye popping, beautiful designs. Something that's going to take everyones breath away.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #272
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There is massive demand for this tower, Torre Verre, 432 Park, and 225 W57th.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/18/re...d.html?_r=1&hp

Midtown Penthouse Is Sold for Most Ever in New York

By ALEXEI BARRIONUEVO

Published: May 17, 2012



A mystery buyer has agreed to pay a record price in New York of more than $90 million for the duplex penthouse at a Midtown tower, the building’s developer said Thursday.

Gary Barnett, president of Extell Development Company, said the buyer, who declined to be named or to disclose his country of origin, bought the 10,923-square-foot penthouse on the 89th and 90th floors of One57, the building currently under construction at 157 West 57th Street.

The building, which features a Park Hyatt below the condominium units, will offer striking views of the southern end of Central Park and will be among New York’s tallest residential structures when it is completed next year. Since One57 opened for sales in December, about half of its 92 apartments have been sold, Mr. Barnett said.
While Mr. Barnett would not reveal the exact amount the buyer agreed to pay for the penthouse, citing a confidentiality agreement, he said it was less than $100 million. The price nevertheless tops the $88 million that a trust benefiting the daughter of a Russian billionaire, Dmitry Rybolovlev, paid this year for a penthouse at 15 Central Park West owned by the former Citigroup chairman Sanford I. Weill. Besides being a record sale for an apartment in Manhattan, that purchase also drew gasps for the record price paid per square foot: more than $13,000.

The One57 penthouse, which features 23-foot ceilings in a grand salon, traded for about $8,000 per square foot, Mr. Barnett said. He called the purchase by the Rybolovlevs, agreed to late last year, “not a good deal,” saying the market for superluxury properties in New York should be closer to $10,000 per square foot.

Foreign buyers, including Brazilians, Chinese and Russians, have been on a buying spree in New York and Miami in recent months, developers and brokers say. Russian and Ukrainian buyers have shown a particular willingness to pay top dollar for so-called trophy properties.

Mr. Barnett was quick to dispel any notion that the One57 penthouse was sold to a Russian, saying the buyer was not Russian, Ukrainian or from “any other part of the former Soviet Union.”

He described the buyer as a “very nice family” who plans to use the penthouse as a residence, and as “someone that people would recognize.” The sale had been a well-kept secret; the buyer agreed to buy the penthouse more than three months ago, he said, when the apartment was listed at $98.5 million — before Extell raised the asking price to $115 million to adjust for the market tumult caused by the 15 Central Park West sale.

Despite setting a record, the One57 penthouse did not crack the elusive $100 million barrier for a residence, which has not been broken either in New York or in Los Angeles. Mr. Barnett said he nearly broke it with a different apartment at One57.

Earlier this year, he said, a foreign buyer was “very, very seriously looking” at the “Winter Garden” unit, a duplex with a separate solarium totaling 13,500 square feet. The buyer was negotiating to buy that apartment and another full floor — a combination of floors 75 to 77 that would have been 20,000 square feet. The price would have been between $100 and $150 million, Mr. Barnett said.

He would not say why the deal fell through.

“I am hopeful we will break it one day,” he said of the $100 million barrier, “in this building or another one.”
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Old May 19th, 2012, 01:13 AM   #273
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Old May 19th, 2012, 01:48 AM   #274
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^

It's relevant, and informative. Which is more than can be said for most of the recent posts in NY threads. Not talking about you by the way.
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Old May 19th, 2012, 01:53 AM   #275
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So Barnett is waiting for Morton Williams to leave in a few months, and then he´ll start the exevation of the site?

Mhhhh, that might end up in a long waiting time to finally see renders of the building.
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Old May 21st, 2012, 03:54 AM   #276
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I walked by the site of the new MW store at 140 W57th on 19 May 2012 and observed that the interior work is really progressing.
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 11:08 AM   #277
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 02:18 PM   #278
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No. I don't have a photo sharing account to upload pics onto this site.
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 06:36 PM   #279
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No. I don't have a photo sharing account to upload pics onto this site.
What do you mean account? You can't just use imgur?
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 07:05 PM   #280
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What do you mean account? You can't just use imgur?
Some photo sharing websites won't work on SSC, like Imageshack. Not sure about imgur, though.
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