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Old July 4th, 2012, 07:50 PM   #401
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NYC is defined by it's buildings with spires/pointed crowns/ big ass antennae. There are plenty of new towers planned to rise without spires that reach over 300 m. I'd prefer to have a tower that reaches 300 m without it's spire. NYC doesn't have any of those as of yet. I'm sure that wouldn't be a problem for this particular building.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 10:45 PM   #402
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But the most iconic NY skyscrapers like ESB, 432 Park or the new WTC don't have a spire. I think it would look just fine without it. Without a spire it'll fit more into the company of its supertall neighbours 432 Park, ESB, 157, 15 Penn, Manhattan West and the Hudson Yards
ESB, 1WTC, 2WTC and 3WTC have spires.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 12:28 AM   #403
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ESB and 1WTC have antennas. I don't like spires but I kinda tolerate antennas because they have a function and their function makes a lot of money. As to this building, I think a flat roof is the best way to go. There aren't many of these in Midtown. Pretty much only 432 Park and 15 Penn. The Hudson Yards, 157, the Citigroup Center and Manhattan West all have angled roofs. ESB, Chrysler BoA and 4Times Square have antennas/spires What I like most about midtown is the rich mixture of different architecture and atm flat roofs are in a minority and therefore deserve some more additions
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Old July 5th, 2012, 01:34 AM   #404
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ESB and 1WTC have antennas. I don't like spires but I kinda tolerate antennas because they have a function and their function makes a lot of money. As to this building, I think a flat roof is the best way to go. There aren't many of these in Midtown. Pretty much only 432 Park and 15 Penn. The Hudson Yards, 157, the Citigroup Center and Manhattan West all have angled roofs. ESB, Chrysler BoA and 4Times Square have antennas/spires What I like most about midtown is the rich mixture of different architecture and atm flat roofs are in a minority and therefore deserve some more additions
I hate repeating myself to you. The antennas is on top of ESB spire. I see ESB everyday, so I know what's on top of it.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 01:38 AM   #405
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ESB and 1WTC have antennas. I don't like spires but I kinda tolerate antennas because they have a function and their function makes a lot of money. As to this building, I think a flat roof is the best way to go. There aren't many of these in Midtown. Pretty much only 432 Park and 15 Penn. The Hudson Yards, 157, the Citigroup Center and Manhattan West all have angled roofs. ESB, Chrysler BoA and 4Times Square have antennas/spires What I like most about midtown is the rich mixture of different architecture and atm flat roofs are in a minority and therefore deserve some more additions
You have no clue what you are talking about, Kanto.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 01:39 AM   #406
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How tipical, you even post messages that don't involve attacking me?

Well, here is a list of the top 10 Midtown scrapers which clearly shows that flat roofs are in the minority:

432 Park - flat roof
Hudson Yards North Tower - angled roof
Empire State Building - antenna
15 Penn - flat roof
1 Manhattan West - angled roof
Tower Verre - angled roof
157 - angled roof
BoA - spire
2 Manhattan West - angled roof
Chrysler Building - spire
Citigroup Center - angled roof

Angled roof = 6 Buildings
Antenna/spire = 3 Buildings
Flat roof = 2 Buildings

This is the reason why I think a flat roof building would be the best bet for the skyline
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Old July 5th, 2012, 02:16 AM   #407
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But I really hope they have a design soon.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 03:08 AM   #409
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How tipical, you even post messages that don't involve attacking me?

Well, here is a list of the top 10 Midtown scrapers which clearly shows that flat roofs are in the minority:

432 Park - flat roof
Hudson Yards North Tower - angled roof
Empire State Building - antenna
15 Penn - flat roof
1 Manhattan West - angled roof
Tower Verre - angled roof
157 - angled roof
BoA - spire
2 Manhattan West - angled roof
Chrysler Building - spire
Citigroup Center - angled roof

Angled roof = 6 Buildings
Antenna/spire = 3 Buildings
Flat roof = 2 Buildings

This is the reason why I think a flat roof building would be the best bet for the skyline
Is there a post in which you donīt act the victim? I wasnīt ATTACKING you.

Itīs a fact that a majority of towers in midtown actually are flat roofed boxes, therefore I THINK a variety of stylish towers with distinctive roofs would finally break the plateau midtown has, and make it look soaring like it used to be in the 1930īs, Kanto.
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But nearly all of them are shorter towers which don't have an impact on the skyline. The taller towers usually don't have flat roofs.
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Old July 5th, 2012, 01:06 PM   #411
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Which is a good thing, since flat tops result in a plateulike skyline, while pointed skyscrapers make the skyline dramatic and pushes it visually up and makes it look soaring.
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I like plateulike skylines. these skylines are far more massive and imposing than antenna/spire skylines
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Old July 5th, 2012, 11:08 PM   #413
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I like plateulike skylines. these skylines are far more massive and imposing than antenna/spire skylines
No, plateaus are not as interesting to the eye. You don't need a spire to have an interesting skyline with peaks and valleys, flat roofs can do fine. There must be variation in height of towers though otherwise the sense of scale is lost.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 08:41 PM   #414
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New York is the only city outside of Asia with many supertalls u/c or about to begin construction:

The following should all be u/c in 2013:

1. One57
2. 432 Park
3. 225 W57th
4. Hudson Yards South Tower
5. Hudson Yards North Tower
6. Torre Verre
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Old July 8th, 2012, 08:56 PM   #415
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New York is the only city outside of Asia with many supertalls u/c or about to begin construction:

The following should all be u/c in 2013:

1. One57
2. 432 Park
3. 225 W57th
4. Hudson Yards South Tower
5. Hudson Yards North Tower
6. Torre Verre
Don't forget WTC complex.
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Old July 8th, 2012, 08:58 PM   #416
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New York is the only city outside of Asia with many supertalls u/c or about to begin construction:

The following should all be u/c in 2013:

1. One57
2. 432 Park
3. 225 W57th
4. Hudson Yards South Tower
5. Hudson Yards North Tower
6. Torre Verre
Hudson Yards North is also good to go ? Did they have tenants ?
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I assume that Time Warner, News Corp., or Credit Suisse will anchor the north tower.
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Old August 9th, 2012, 05:26 PM   #418
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This buiding is the most beautiful in the NYC skyline......
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Old August 9th, 2012, 05:31 PM   #419
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This buiding is the most beautiful in the NYC skyline......
There's no rendering yet.
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Old August 9th, 2012, 07:10 PM   #420
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This buiding is the most beautiful in the NYC skyline......


it's not build yet and we've no design yet .
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