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Old July 20th, 2014, 01:23 AM   #4641
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Now you're talkin'. That would be cool. I can't really think of any in New York besides Helmsley. At least none of any great height.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 01:53 AM   #4642
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I like this more than the 1WTC, dunno why
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Old July 20th, 2014, 02:19 AM   #4643
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Please, to whom it may concern: remove that awful spire and let the building by itself. Thanks.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 02:33 AM   #4644
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on this building i do like the spire, makes the building look like out of a science fiction movie. just wish with the same proportions it would be like twice as tall, it's a bit skinny like this.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 03:47 AM   #4645
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Woah, this escalated quickly. We just got unofficial renders like a week ago and now we're already under U/C. I know we've been at Prep for months but it's kind of jarring to see it under construction already. I'm guessing foundation work will take up to a year?
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Old July 20th, 2014, 06:04 AM   #4646
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just open this thread, and looks NY its want join with China n Middle east to build some new supertall construction
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Old July 20th, 2014, 08:37 AM   #4647
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This might be a dumb question what actually needs to happen for a building to go from Prep to Under Construction?

Installation of construction crane?
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Old July 20th, 2014, 09:50 AM   #4648
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When they start building the foundation or when pilling starts for the foundation
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Old July 20th, 2014, 10:00 AM   #4649
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It really doesn't convince me the idea of seeing the New York Skyline full of Spires.... but congrats New Yorkers
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Old July 20th, 2014, 03:25 PM   #4650
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It really doesn't convince me the idea of seeing the New York Skyline full of Spires.... but congrats New Yorkers
Why? I think a spire on 57th street is long overdue, it most certainly adds some variety. The other towers all have a flat roof and/or crown. Same with the Hudson Yards towers (15+) - not a single spire so far.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 03:40 PM   #4651
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Los Angeles (and probably some other cities) have the safety law about having helipads on the roof of tall buildings. Spires make that very difficult. If I were in a fire on the 83rd floor I'd be happier with a helipad than a spire.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 04:32 PM   #4652
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I don't know why is that. I don't know if that safety law has more to do with earthquakes than with fires, but some criticize it as ineffective.

When there is a fire, it is impractical and dangerous for the helicopters to land on the top of the burning building, because of the smoke and the turbulences produced by the hot air.

Look at the 9-11, not a single person of the many people trapped in the upper floors could be rescued with helicopters.

There are much more effective measures, such as fire protected emergency stairs and lifts.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 05:30 PM   #4653
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Los Angeles (and probably some other cities) have the safety law about having helipads on the roof of tall buildings. Spires make that very difficult. If I were in a fire on the 83rd floor I'd be happier with a helipad than a spire.
On every fire drill I've been to in NYC, they emphasized that in case of a fire, you should never head up to the roof, you won't be saved by a helicopter like in the movies, the NYFD doesn't remotely have enough choppers do to such thing.
This one is not going to have a helipad anyway.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 06:47 PM   #4654
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Sky City has helicopter pads on the side of the building and a spire. But then again, if it ever gets built it will revolutionize anything we thought we knew about construction. And ironically it is still going at a slower pace compared to ESB. It's a very strange building.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 08:53 PM   #4655
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On every fire drill I've been to in NYC, they emphasized that in case of a fire, you should never head up to the roof, you won't be saved by a helicopter like in the movies...
Yes, but I'm a moron.
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Old July 20th, 2014, 09:33 PM   #4656
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Old July 20th, 2014, 11:38 PM   #4657
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When you consider that this building sits at about 80 feet above sea level compared to 1 WTC sitting just above sea level, won't that make it appear taller as well? Take its additional roof height plus the elevation gain and it should appear to sit about 1550 feet above sea level to the roof. Compared to 1 WTC at 1368
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Old July 21st, 2014, 03:24 AM   #4658
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Sky City has helicopter pads on the side of the building and a spire. But then again, if it ever gets built it will revolutionize anything we thought we knew about construction. And ironically it is still going at a slower pace compared to ESB. It's a very strange building.
Sky City is not a real project. It's a bunch of crappy renderings of a building standing alone in the middle of some forest, an acre of moved soil on the surface to make it look like a construction site (no digging or piling) and some BS stories about why it's not starting. I seriously doubt it'll ever happen. They cancelled the helipad of the Kingdom Tower because it was deemed to be dangerous by the pilots. And that building had one...not six
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Old July 21st, 2014, 04:02 AM   #4659
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The cantilever looks ridiculous.

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Old July 21st, 2014, 02:27 PM   #4660
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Diagram is up!
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?cityID=8
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