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Old December 7th, 2010, 05:22 AM   #41
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Extell recently filed these demolition permits:

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Wo...70&requestid=2
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Old March 10th, 2011, 02:54 PM   #42
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More demo permits filed in March 2011.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Wo...70&requestid=2
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Old May 18th, 2011, 01:31 PM   #43
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Extell, which is developing Carnegie 57, owns this even larger site and is poised to demolish the existing buildings for a tower that should easily exceed 300m.


http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...hor-now-empty/

May 16, 2011, 2:39 pm Once a Bustling Automobile Row Anchor, Now Empty
By JAMES BARRON

Robert Caplin for The New York Times
1780 Broadway, the former B.F. Goodrich buildingIt was a dignified mainstay of Automobile Row, the line of glittery showrooms and automobile-related offices that stretched up Broadway from the West 50s to somewhere north of Columbus Circle. Its tire-company name lingered when new tenants moved in, among them a studio where stars like Duke Ellington made recordings.

Now the former B.F. Goodrich building at 1780 Broadway is empty.

The last retail tenant, a shoe store, closed last month. The other first-floor store, Columbus Circle Wines and Spirits, had moved a few blocks away, to 1802 Broadway, near Central Park South, when its lease expired at the end of 2007.

“We were one of the first to leave,” said Laurent Cherrier, a manager of the store. “I believe we were told it was going to be torn down and they were going to build condos, but it was more of a rumor than anything official.”
By 2009, when the city Landmarks Preservation Commission gave landmark status to 1780 Broadway, the Extell Development Corporation was said to be planning a 50-story hotel with apartments or offices for the adjacent site at 225 West 57th Street, the site of a building that was connected to 1780 Broadway.

The Municipal Art Society testified in favor of designating both buildings and said it was “particularly concerned about the fate of the 57th Street facade.” But Extell warned that a landmark designation on the 57th Street building would endanger the project, and the landmarks commission decided not to give the 57th Street building landmark status, only 1780 Broadway.

The commission voted after four City Council members indicated they might overturn a landmark designation on the 57th Street building, saying they did not want to jeopardize the planned hotel tower.

Extell, which is now building a $1.3 billion skyscraper a block away, on 57th Street opposite Carnegie Hall, says it expects to begin demolition of 225 West 57th Street in the next few weeks. As for what it plans to build on the site of No. 225, a spokesman said: “We are going over a gamut of possibilities including mixed use and residential. There is a wide range of possibilities.”
The buildings at 1780 Broadway at 225 West 57th Street opened to considerable fanfare in 1909. The trade publication The Automobile mentioned them in an article headlined “Handsome Additions to New York’s Automobile Row.” Goodrich bragged that “the ‘great white tread’ of the Goodrich tire is the big mileage tread of the ‘great white way’ and every other street and avenue in New York.”

Originally, Goodrich had a tire showroom on the first floor. On the 12th floor, where there is a balcony overlooking Broadway, were, as Goodrich put it, “the most complete automobile tire repair facilities in the United States.”

The two buildings were the work of Howard Van Doren Shaw, a prolific Chicago architect who had designed a house in Ohio for Goodrich’s president at the beginning of the 20th century. The landmarks commission noted that Shaw collaborated with the Manhattan firm of Waid & Willauer on the two Automobile Row buildings.

The Buildings Department said only that one permit had been issued for 1780 Broadway, back in 2007. It was for a “sidewalk shed,” the temporary structure necessary when exterior repairs are being done. The permit has been renewed until January of next year, a spokeswoman for the Buildings Department said.

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Old May 18th, 2011, 08:53 PM   #44
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Thanks, HK.

This tower should well exceed 300m!
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Old May 20th, 2011, 12:15 AM   #45
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Ni3lS, can this go to the supertalls proposed section? Since it's obvious that will took over 300m..
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Old June 8th, 2011, 04:22 AM   #46
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NYC Department of Buildings
Work Permit Data
Premises: 217 WEST 57 STREET MANHATTAN Filed At: 221 WEST 57TH STREET MANHATTAN
BIN: 1080870 Block: 1029 Lot: 19 Job Type: DM - FULL DEMOLITION

View Permit History
Job No: 110439071 Fee: STANDARD
Permit No: 110439071-01-DM Issued: Expires: 03/08/2012
Seq. No.: 04 Filing Date: 06/06/2011 RENEWAL Status: IN PROCESS
Work: Proposed Job Start: 05/29/2009 Work Approved: 01/22/2009
FULL DEMOLITION -
DEMOLITION OF 12 STORY STRUCTURE-THIS PROPERTY HAS AKA ADDRESSES 217-223 W 57TH
ST

Use: COM - COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS - OLD CODE Landmark: NO Stories: 12
Site Fill: OFF-SITE
Review is requested under Building Code: 1968

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Adding more than three stories: No
Removing one or more stories: Yes
Performing work in 50% or more of the area of the building: No
Demolishing 50% or more of the area of the building: Yes
Performing a vertical or horizontal enlargement adding more than 25% of the area of the building: No
Mechanical equipment other than handheld devices to be used for demolition or removal of debris to be used: No

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Issued to: DANIEL COLASUONNO GC SAFETY REGISTRATION: 0027837-GC
Business: TITAN CONTRACTING GP INC
66 00 LONG ISLAND EXPY MASPETH NY 11378 Phone: 718-424-0300


DEMOLITION CHECKLIST 06/06/2011 CODE DESCRIPTION STATUS
A01 PRE-DEMO INSPECTOR'S REPORT WAIVED
A02 WORKMEN'S COMPENSATION INSURANCE WAIVED
A03 DISABILITY BENEFITS INSURANCE WAIVED
A04 STREET OBSTRUCTION BOND WAIVED
A05 RODENT CONTROL WAIVED
A06 GAS CUT-OFF WAIVED
A07 ELECTRIC CUT-OFF WAIVED
A08 SEWER CUT-OFF WAIVED
A09 WATER CUT-OFF WAIVED
A10 SRO INTAKE FORM (SR01) / HPD3 CHECKLIST WAIVED
A11 5 DAY PRIOR NOTICE TO ADJOINING OWNERS WAIVED
A12 COMMUNITY BOARD NOTIFICATION WAIVED
A13 ASBESTOS REPORT (ACP5/ASB4) WAIVED
A14 PHOTOGRAPHS WAIVED
A15 PW1 APPLICATION FOR FENCE OR NB WAIVED
A16 APPOINTMENT CARD FROM B.E.S.T WAIVED
A17 LANDMARK LETTER RE NO DESIGNATION OR CAL WAIVED
A18 TITLE SEARCH WAIVED
A19 DEED FOR TRANSFER OF UNIMPROVED PROPERTY WAIVED
A20 ECB VIOLATIONS(S) FOR ILLEGAL DEMOLITION WAIVED
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Demolition permits for another one of the buildings on this sit were filed on 8 JUne 2011.

This is the empty structure which is located on the north side of the site on W58th st.



Premises: 216 WEST 58 STREET MANHATTAN Job No: 120717313
BIN: 1024906 Block: 1029 Lot: 43 Document: 01 OF 1
Job Type: DM - FULL DEMOLITION

Document Overview Items Required Virtual Job Folder All Permits Schedule A Schedule B
Fees Paid Forms Received All Comments C/O Summary Plumbing Inspections
Crane Information Plan Examination
After Hours Variance Permits

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This job is not subject to the Department's Development Challenge Process. For any issues, please contact the relevant borough office.

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Last Action: PRE-FILING 06/08/2011 (A)

Pre-Filed: 06/08/2011 Building Type: Other Estimated Total Cost: $0.00
Date Filed: Fee Structure: STANDARD Filing Method: E-FILED
Review is requested under Building Code: 2008
Job Description Comments

1 Location Information (Filed At)
House No(s): 216 Street Name: WEST 58TH STREET
Borough: Manhattan Block: 1029 Lot: 43 BIN: 1024906 CB No: 105
Work on Floor(s): 001 thru 007 Apt/Condo No(s):

2 Applicant of Record Information
Name: LAWRENCE SHAPIRO
Business Name: HOWARD I SHAPIRO & ASSOCITAES Business Phone: 516-791-2600
Business Address: 303 MERRICK ROAD LYNBROOK NY 11563 Business Fax:
E-Mail: Mobile Telephone: 516-791-2600
License Number: 060597
Applicant Type: P.E. R.A Sign Hanger Other

Directive 14 Applicant
Not Applicable
Previous Applicant of Record
Not Applicable

3 Filing Representative
Name: KARISSA SANCHEZ
Business Name: EXPEDITER Business Phone: 917-676-2032
Business Address: 9 HALE STREET SI NY 10307 Business Fax:
E-Mail: Mobile Telephone:
Registration Number: S24413

4 Filing Status
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5 Job Types
Alteration Type 1 New Building
Change in Exits/Egress
Change in Number of Stories Alteration Type 2 Full Demolition
Change in Number of Dwelling Units Alteration Type 3 Subdivision: Improved
Change in Room Count / Dwelling Units Sign Subdivision: Condo
Change in Occupancy / Use
Change inconsistent with current Cert. of Occup.
Alteration Type 1, OT "No Work" Directive 14 acceptance requested? Yes No

6 Work Types
BL - Boiler FA - Fire Alarm FB - Fuel Burning FS - Fuel Storage
FP - Fire Suppression MH - Mechanical PL - Plumbing SD - Standpipe
SP - Sprinkler EQ - Construction Equipment CC - Curb Cut
OT - Other

7 Plans/Construction Documents Submitted
Plans Page Count: Not Provided

8 Additional Information
Enlargement proposed?
No Yes Horizontal Vertical
Street Frontage: 40 linear ft.

9 Additional Considerations, Limitations or Restrictions
Yes No
Structural peer review required per BC §1627 Peer Reviewer License No.(P.E.):
Filed to Comply with Local Law Local Law No./Year:
Other, Specify:
Restrictive Declaration / Easement
Zoning Exhibit Record (I,II,III,etc)
Landmark
Filed to Address Violation(s)
Legalization
"Little E" Hazmat Site
Unmapped Street Yes No
Adult Establishment Included in LMCCC
Compensated Development (Inclusionary Housing) Infill Zoning
Low Income Housing (Inclusionary Housing) Loft Board
Single Room Occupancy (SRO) Multiple Dwelling Quality Housing
Filing includes Lot Merger / Reapportionment (If Yes,17)
Includes permanent removal of standpipe, sprinkler or fire suppression related systems
Work includes partial demolition as defined in AC §28-101.5
Structural Stability affected by proposed work
Work includes lighting fixture and/or controls, installation or replacement. [§ECC 404 and 505]
Site Safety Job / Project

BSA Calendar No.(s):
CPC Calendar No.(s):

10 NYCECC Compliance New York City Energy Conservation Code (Applicant Statement)
Not Provided

11 Job Description
DEMOLITION OF A 7 STORY BUILDING MECHANICAL MEANS
Related BIS Job Numbers:
Primary application Job Number:

12 Zoning Characteristics
District(s): C5-1 - RESTRICTED CENTRAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT
Overlay(s):
Special District(s):
Map No.: 8c Street legal width (ft.): Street status: Public Private
Zoning lot includes the following tax lots: Not Provided
13 Building Characteristics

Existing 2008 Code Designations?
Occupancy Classification: S-1 - STORAGE: MODERATE HAZARD Yes No
Construction Classification: I-B: 2 HOUR PROTECTED - NON-COMBUST Yes No
Multiple Dwelling Classification:
Building Height (ft.): 77
Building Stories: 7
Dwelling Units:

Mixed use building? Yes No

14 Fill
Not Applicable Off-Site On-Site Under 300 cubic yards

15 Construction Equipment
Chute Sidewalk Shed Construction Material: WOOD
Fence Size: linear ft. BSA/MEA Approval No.:
Supported Scaffold Other

16 Curb Cut Description
Not Applicable

17 Tax Lot Characteristics
Not Provided

18 Fire Protection Equipment
Not Applicable

19 Open Spaces

20 Site Characteristics
Not Provided

21 Demolition Details

Pre-Demolition Inspection: NOT RECORDED


Yes No
Demolishing a secondary structure? Specify:
Mechanical means from out of building? entire structure or part of structure
Mechanical means from within building? Describe equipment proposed:
Demolition work affects the exterior building envelope

22 Asbestos Abatement Compliance
The scope of work requires related asbestos abatement as defined in the regulations of the NYC Department of Environmental Protection (DEP).
The scope of work does not require related asbestos abatement as defined in the regulations of the NYC DEP.
The scope of work is exempt from the asbestos requirement as defined in the regulations promulgated by the NYC DEP (15 RCNY 1-23(b)).

23 Signs
Not Applicable

24 Comments

Comments for Document 01
DEMOLITION OF A 7 STORY BUILDING


25 Applicant's Statements and Signatures ( See paper form or check Forms Received )
Yes No
For New Building and Alteration 1 applications filed under the 2008 NYC Building Code only: does this building qualify for high-rise designation?
Directive 14 applications only: I certify that the construction documents submitted and all construction documents related to this application do not require a new or amended Certificate of Occupancy as there is no change in use, exits, or occupancy.

26 Owner's Information
Name: RAIZY HAAS
Relationship to Owner: PRESIDENT
Business Name: BROADWAY TRIO LLC Business Phone: 212-712-6114
Business Address: 805 THIRD AVE NY NY 10022 Business Fax:
E-Mail: Owner Type: PARTNERSHIP
Non Profit: Yes No

Yes No
Owner's Certification Regarding Occupied Housing (Remain Occupied)
Owner's Certification Regarding Occupied Housing (Rent Control / Stabilization)
Owner DHCR Notification
Owner's Certification for Adult Establishment
Owner's Certification for Directive 14 (if applicable)


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To view metes and bounds, see the Plot Diagram (form PD-1). A scanned image may be available here.
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Old June 9th, 2011, 03:42 AM   #48
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I'll be happy to see another 1,000 plus foot building here.

But how do they get permission for buildings like this and One57 so easily. When the TWC was being built they were really limited in height due to the issue of shadows being cast on Central Park. How is that seemingly not an issue for these buildings? I would think the Community Board for this area would be up in arms.
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If, like Carnegie 57, a tower is built with the air rights it possesses as of right, there's really nothing that opponents can do. With Torre Verre, by contrast, the air rights that the developer assembled included transfers from non-contiguous properties and therefore, required city approval.
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No, meeting the air rights criteria is a minimum requirement. You still have to be approved by the local community board and probably by the city planning commission. Those latter two things are what forced the TWC not be be as tall as was originally planned and have stalled many other projects such as Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.

But I have not heard of any public outcry on this (which is what would force the community boards hand) so I guess people are ok with it. Fine with me, the more skyscrapers the better :-)
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No, meeting the air rights criteria is a minimum requirement. You still have to be approved by the local community board and probably by the city planning commission. Those latter two things are what forced the TWC not be be as tall as was originally planned and have stalled many other projects such as Atlantic Yards in Brooklyn.

But I have not heard of any public outcry on this (which is what would force the community boards hand) so I guess people are ok with it. Fine with me, the more skyscrapers the better :-)
The community board's decision isn't binding.
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Old June 9th, 2011, 09:44 PM   #52
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TWC was the first skyscraper built in the city after 9/11. People were afraid of tall buildings but that isn't the case anymore. And the whole casting shadow on central park makes no sense. Because the trees already do that.
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More demo permits were filed for 221 and 225 W57th on 14 July 2011.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

I predict this tower to be around 350m tall.
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Update by Dan Burnett, today..





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More demo permits were filed for 221 and 225 W57th on 14 July 2011.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

I predict this tower to be around 350m tall.

Seriously, isn't that just a little weeny tiny bit of a bold claim?! 350??! How? Why? When? Do you have a-n-y clues as to why you're making such an optimistic prediction?

(don't get me wrong: I'd love it if you were right, but I WILL hate you if you get my hopes way too high only to be heartbroken! )
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This is a very accurate prediction. This tower is being developed by the same developer of One 57 (i.e., Extell). It has about 30% more air rights than One 57, and therefore, should be around 30% taller than that tower. 350m is a conservative estimate since One 57 will be around 305m tall.
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Well see. And I'm sure we won't see the design, till the last minute.
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Well see. And I'm sure we won't see the design, till the last minute.
So true, C57 was a perfect example.

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This is a very accurate prediction. This tower is being developed by the same developer of One 57 (i.e., Extell). It has about 30% more air rights than One 57, and therefore, should be around 30% taller than that tower. 350m is a conservative estimate since One 57 will be around 305m tall.
350m would be great. I need to update my NYC construction list, it's been a while.
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I seriously doubt 350 meters will be allowed. I would love it but I would think the Central Park lovers will put up a big fight about it casting too big of a shadow over the park.

When by the site on Sunday. Demolition is moving along.

When will that stupid grocery store have to move?
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