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Old November 27th, 2012, 05:46 PM   #761
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I still can't really get my head around a height like this, but what will make this even more impressive is that it's going to be built in one of the most densely built areas on the planet. Unbelievable.
THIS blew my mind when One57 started construction. This one will be an even more dramatic example of a massive tower build in the middle of a cities fabric. Usually, supertalls of that magnitude, occupy an entire plot or block, but not here, not in Manhattan. It seems like the FAR concept´s intention, of creating an interesting, lively and dense fabric, with high verticallity finally works out.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 05:53 PM   #762
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at 88 floors this tower will have a average floor height of 5,3m . i don't know any other tower on earth with such a high average floor height.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 06:05 PM   #763
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Don´t take the floor count too seriously.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 06:22 PM   #764
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at 88 floors this tower will have a average floor height of 5,3m . i don't know any other tower on earth with such a high average floor height.
That's not at all rare. Take a look at the Saudi Kingdom Center for example. From CTBUH:

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Height: Architectural 302.3 meter / 992 feet
Height: Occupied 290.4 meter / 953 feet
Height: To Tip 302.3 meter / 992 feet
Height: Observatory 290.4 meter / 953 feet
Floors Above Ground 41
Floors Below Ground 2
# of Elevators 45
Tower GFA 185,000 m² / 1,991,323 ft²
# of Parking Spaces 3200
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Old November 27th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #765
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at 88 floors this tower will have a average floor height of 5,3m . i don't know any other tower on earth with such a high average floor height.
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The tower will reach 88 stories, which sounds like a lot, but when the overall height is considered, that belies exceedingly high ceilings. At the same time, much extra space will also likely be devoted to mechanical systems to keep such a colossus running, as well as the fact that the first five floors, as construction documents show, will be given over to a Nordstroms, as was announced in July. On the seventh through 12th floors, there will be a hotel, and than, boom, 223 residential units. That is almost twice as many units as One57, though the hotel is also considerably larger there.


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Don´t take the floor count too seriously.
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THIS blew my mind when One57 started construction. This one will be an even more dramatic example of a massive tower build in the middle of a cities fabric. Usually, supertalls of that magnitude, occupy an entire plot or block, but not here, not in Manhattan. It seems like the FAR concept´s intention, of creating an interesting, lively and dense fabric, with high verticallity finally works out.
This is how New York builds. 400m+ towers meeting the street in an already superdense area. Dense, denser, Manhattan.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 06:51 PM   #766
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This building will be 500 ft. taller than One57. Crazy.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:18 PM   #767
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This building will be 500 ft. taller than One57. Crazy.
More like 600 ft. taller than One57. At least.

And, to reiterate what other folks are mentioning, what is most impressive is that this is in the middle of a superdense urban fabric.

This is nothing like the supertowers in Dubai, Shanghai, and the like. Those supertowers are stand-alone, usually in a suburban-style environment. 225 W57 is built right up against other buildings, and is just another building in the urban fabric.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:30 PM   #768
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Not to take away anything from this tower but by 2019 this building will not even be in the world's 10 tallest to roof height. It will still be behind Kingdom Tower, Burj Khalifa, J220 (Sky City), Shanghai Tower, Wuhan Greenland Center, Goldin Finance 117, Ping An IFC, Rose Rock IFC, Royal Mecca Hotel Clock Tower, Chow Tai Fook Guangzhou, and Dalian Greenland Center.

All that being said just imagine having a tower with roughly the same height as SWFC in the middle of midtown Manhattan. This tower will dwarf the supertalls around it like One57 and 432 Park Avenue. Finally the U.S. is getting a new tallest building to roof height.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #769
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What would be breathtaking is the view from that accesory lounge open to the sky on the 85th floor.

It would be like the view from the final scene of the movie "Vanilla Sky" from atop that fictional skyscraper from where Tom Cruise jumps.
Watching the Empire State from above!!!

By the way, the movie is from 2001, so is one of the last on which the Twin Towers appeared.

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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:05 PM   #770
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can this tower surpassing both one world trade center and willis tower ???
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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:37 PM   #771
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Seeing the 1,550 foot height in print is still amazing (near the bottom):

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Old November 27th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #772
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can this tower surpassing both one world trade center and willis tower ???
it will surpass Sears tower ( not counting antennas ). But it's not sure if it will be taller than 1WTC, that depends on the decision of CTBUH about the Spire/Antenna of 1WTC.
With a spire 1WTC will be 541m tall and 225W won't surpass it. Otherwise 1WTC will be 417m tall.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:03 PM   #773
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can this tower surpassing both one world trade center and willis tower ???
It will surpass them both
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:11 PM   #774
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Wow crazy news! Renders please!
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:21 PM   #775
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can this tower surpassing both one world trade center and willis tower ???
By roof height it will be the tallest in America...however without a spire both Willis and 1WTC are taller.
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By roof height it will be the tallest in America...however without a spire both Willis and 1WTC are taller.
Except that Willis Tower doesn't have a spire. And apparently, 1WTC won't either. So, this would be tallest in America in absolute terms.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:28 PM   #777
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Wow, I can't wait to see the new amazing renders!!!





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Then continue with Fordham Spire in Chicago, please. And the Post office Development!
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:42 PM   #778
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If, but only if this tower was build today it would haven been the second tallest tower in the world by heighest occupied floor, since the heighest floor in Mecca is 1480 ft ( not counting observatory ). But maybe it won't even make the top ten when finished.
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:45 PM   #779
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I was hoping for a spire but oh well a height of 1550 ft + a crown will be amazing
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Old November 27th, 2012, 09:47 PM   #780
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http://observer.com/2012/11/gary-bar...50-foot-tower/
Gary Barnett’s Biggest Blockbuster Yet: 225 West 57th Street, New York’s First 1,550-Foot Tower

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But a year or two after that, and he might turn his gaze further down 57th Street, past the already striking 1,005-foot One57 tower, Gary Barnett’s billionaire bauble nearing completion despite that crane accident. There it would settle on another tower being developed by Mr. Barnett, at 225 West 57th Street, just one block from what was already going to be the city’s tallest apartment building when it opens next year. The new tower’s height, according to building permits filed last week: 1,550 feet.

That would make it the world’s sixth tallest building—at least until something else comes along and knocks it off its pedestal.

That is a good 50 percent taller than either the Chrysler Building or One57, while all three are about the same size, between 1.2 and 1.4 million square feet. The tower will be slender, but it will also be solid unlike some of its spindly rivals, notably 432 Park and predecessors like the Trump World Tower. (Amazing how that held the record for tallest apartment building for a decade, surpassed by only a few feet by Frank Gehry’s Spruce Street tower, and now, it’s just off to the races, especially when the 1,050-foot MoMA tower is added into the mix. And never mind all the super-tall office towers on the horizon, like the 1,300-footer at Hudson Yards and all those maybe-taller towers coming out of the Midtown East rezoning.)

The tower will reach 88 stories, which sounds like a lot, but when the overall height is considered, that belies exceedingly high ceilings. At the same time, much extra space will also likely be devoted to mechanical systems to keep such a colossus running, as well as the fact that the first five floors, as construction documents show, will be given over to a Nordstroms, as was announced in July. On the seventh through 12th floors, there will be a hotel, and than, boom, 223 residential units. That is almost twice as many units as One57, though the hotel is also considerably larger there.

“I don’t want to confirm anything except to say we’ve filed permits,” Mr. Barnett told The Observer Monday by phone, when asked if the project had financing and was set to rise.
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There won’t be a spire or anything like that, the floors will go all the way to the top, or almost to the top, with some mechanicals above,” Mr. Barnett said. “This is not a gimmick.”

On the highest occupiable floor, the 85th, construction documents call for a “residential accessory lounge open to sky.” Apartments will be from the 15th through 84th floors, with no mention of layouts (full-floor, duplex, etc.). The building permits also mention another residential lounge on the 14th floor, and the seventh floor houses a number of amenities for the hotel: a restaurant, salon, gym, lounge and “sky lobby.” The ground floor has separate entrances for the Nordstroms, the hotel and the residences.

One thing that will not be new is the facade along Broadway, the former BF Goodrich building. Because of a deal struck with the city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission in 2009, the old auto building at 225 West 57th can come down, despite the protests of preservationists, but its sibling at 1780 Broadway must remain. A 1920s red brick building, its 12-story facade must be integrated into whatever Mr. Barnett builds. The building will have T-shaped configuration as a result, with section on Broaway, 57th and 58th streets.
We have a new tallest for NYC!
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