NEW YORK | 225 West 57th Street | 472m | 1550ft | 88 fl | Prep

[Kanto]

Some people might think it requires tremendous heights to impress me, but that is not true. I'm so impressed by the height of this tower that I have tears in my eyes. I don't care whether this building will be in the top 10 when built or not, 472m is for me jaw droppingly impressive

As to why only 88 floors, well, luxury residences have high ceilings and this will be top class luxurious residential space

[MrSlippery519]

Originally Posted by Fabio1976

But why only 88 floors ?

Because the retail below will have very high floors, also much like 432 Park Ave the ceiling heights in the residential will be much higher than you standard building.

Number of floors means nothing

[RobertWalpole]

This tower will be amazing.

[Kanto]

Also, one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that this will be the tallest residential tower in the world. It will beat World 1 In Mumbai. Only the Pentominium could surpass it, but as of this moment the Pentominium has no future at all with zero funds

[KillerZavatar]

Originally Posted by Kanto

Also, one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that this will be the tallest residential tower in the world. It will beat World 1 In Mumbai. Only the Pentominium could surpass it, but as of this moment the Pentominium has no future at all with zero funds

i saw in a picture a few posts back (McSky's post) that this will be mixed use, so it will not be tallest residential building.

[Amastroi2017]

Originally Posted by crawford

You're probably right, but none of those buildings are really in urban environments, so I think it's pretty cool, considering the urban context of Manhattan.

And there may be many taller buildings proposed for Manhattan. Gary Barnett has another site on 57th Street, and there are many other potential towers. We'll just have to wait and see.

You're right most of the buildings mentioned are not surrounded by a dense urban environment. There are some exceptions such as Burj Khalifa, Shanghai Tower, Ping An IFC, and Chow Tai Fook Guangzhou.

However, none of the cities those towers are in can quite compare to the density of tall buildings as in New York.

[L.A.F.2.]

Don't forget it could have a parapet on top of the mechanical floors like 1WTC to make it even taller than, say, 1,635 feet.

And if you wanted an apartment, would you rather have 8 foot ceilings (standard for kitchens), or 15 foot ceilings (standard for aristocrats )? That's why there are only 88 floors.

[1Filipe1]

so this wont have a spire but it might have a crown depending on the design? kind of like the top of hudson yards? so with the mechnical floors added to the height this may actually be a 500m tower?

[L.A.F.2.]

It could very well have a spire. DOB doesn't consider them "integrated into the design" as the CTBUH does. They treat them as nonexistent poles.

[1Filipe1]

Originally Posted by L.A.F.2.

It could very well have a spire. DOB doesn't consider them "integrated into the design" as the CTBUH does. They treat them as nonexistent poles.

the article on the previous page had this quote

“There won’t be a spire or anything like that, the floors will go all the way to the top, or almost to the top, with some mechanicals above,” Mr. Barnett said. “This is not a gimmick.”

[Hudson11]

Originally Posted by L.A.F.2.

It could very well have a spire. DOB doesn't consider them "integrated into the design" as the CTBUH does. They treat them as nonexistent poles.

You didn't read the article. http://observer.com/2012/11/gary-bar...50-foot-tower/

[L.A.F.2.]

My apologies. I was basing that off of the discussion yesterday when the information was first released. Please disregard that statement.

[nyarch21]

What does it mean that it will be "Slender, but solid"?

[KillerZavatar]

Originally Posted by Hudson11

You didn't read the article. http://observer.com/2012/11/gary-bar...50-foot-tower/

"That would make it the world’s sixth tallest building" < haha, i love how they always treat a proposed building like the world would stand still for a while because yeah, if it finishes today it would surely be the sixth tallest, but in at least 4 years it surely will not be anymore. still remarkable height and i hope new york finally gets the iconic tower it deserves

[DinoVabec]

Originally Posted by Kanto

Also, one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is that this will be the tallest residential tower in the world. It will beat World 1 In Mumbai. Only the Pentominium could surpass it, but as of this moment the Pentominium has no future at all with zero funds

You forgot the store here. Which will eliminate it from this category.

[KillerZavatar]

Originally Posted by DinoVabec

You forgot the store here. Which will eliminate it from this category.

also hotel up to like 15 floors.

[Kanto]

Oops, my bad. Btw what are the criteria for a building to be considered residential?

[1Filipe1]

image hosted on flickr


this pic from earlier in the thread has it at similar height to 432 and it looks massive just imagine it now with like 200 ft more to it

[KillerZavatar]

Originally Posted by Kanto

Oops, my bad. Btw what are the criteria for a building to be considered residential?

http://ctbuh.org/TallBuildings/Heigh...S/Default.aspx

look at single-function and mixed use

single function means a building has to use 85% of its total floor area for this function. so 85% have to be residential. about 18 out of 88 floors are not residential, so probably less than 80% of the available space is used for residential function, which makes this a mixed use building.

[Kanto]

Thanks for the info