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Old August 1st, 2011, 09:52 PM   #61
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Hey Dino, just noticed those pictures of mine are in the wrong thread. Those pictures show the new High School on EAST 57th Street, not the demolition at this site.

But given that both are entirely black netting they do look similar :-)
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Old August 1st, 2011, 11:19 PM   #62
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I seriously doubt 350 meters will be allowed. I would love it but I would think the Central Park lovers will put up a big fight about it casting too big of a shadow over the park.

When by the site on Sunday. Demolition is moving along.

When will that stupid grocery store have to move?
I believe that their total air rights allow a structure of around 350m as of right, and therefore, city approvals are not required (like Carnegie 57 and unlike Torre Verre).
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Old August 1st, 2011, 11:24 PM   #63
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Community boards always have a say and if they make a big fight the project could be held up or changed. But hopefully that won't happen. I would never have guessed that Carnegie 57 could go through and obviously it did.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 12:59 AM   #64
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Community boards always have a say and if they make a big fight the project could be held up or changed. But hopefully that won't happen. I would never have guessed that Carnegie 57 could go through and obviously it did.
Community Boards have no power. Their comments are advisory. Only the LPC can force a major change, and they're not involved when a project is as of right.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 01:10 AM   #65
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 01:37 AM   #66
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http://www.observer.com/2011/08/expl...th-tire-tower/

Explosive Extell Demoing West 57th Tire Tower
By Matt Chaban 12:40pm
Riverside South and One57. Which can we expect for Broadway? (Extell)
Gary Barnett continues to bulldoze his way across the city. Just last week, his Extell Development unveiled plans for a new tower at Riverside South; found a partner for a stalled 50-story hotel near Times Square; and secured $700 million in financing from Abu Dhabi toward One57, the condo-hotel tower on West 57th Street that will be the tallest, and likely most expensive, when it is completed. As if that were not enough, the developer has begun work just down the block on another of its long-simmering projects.

At the corner of Broadway and 57th Street, Extell has plans for yet another soaring tower; it will be either commercial or residential, an official decision has not been made. That has not kept the developer from moving ahead with demolition of some of the buildings it owns on the site, a controversial task since Extell fought off an effort by the Landmarks Preservation Commission to preserve two of the structures in 2009.

Extell assembled the T-shaped plot last decade and then took out a $256 million mortgage on it, leading to quite a bit of consternation when the commission unexpectedly decided 1780 Broadway and 225 West 57th Street were worth saving. Once owned by B.F. Goodrich, they are part of a stretch of Jazz Age dealerships known as Automobile Row. In the end, the commission brooked a contentious deal to save 1780 Broadway while allowing 225 West 57th Street to be torn down.

The site, like so many others at the moment, had lain fallow through the downturn but has now reawakened. Between February and June of this year, Extell filed a series of demolition permits for various buildings on 57th and 58th streets, which the Department of Buildings approved last month. One of those buildings is now coming down, with others to follow. “We’re doing salvage work on the interiors of 217 and 221 West 57th and then start this week to take down the three-story 217 floor by floor,” an Extell spokesman said in an email last week.

The spokesman would not disclose whether the project had financing, but that has not stopped Extell before. Demolition commenced years before construction started on either the One57 site or the International Gem Tower in the Diamond District, and both began construction using only Extell’s equity. As shown at One57, this strategy allowed the developer to act faster because Mr. Barnett did not need to wait for the wrecking ball, and his construction progress helped attract investors, a particularly challenging prospect during the current economic malaise.

Extell also declined to discuss an architect or designs for the 57th and Broadway project, which brings the story back to Riverside South.

For years, Mr. Barnett was known for developing rather pedestrian buildings in line with the man he replaced on that redoubt overlooking the Hudson, Donald Trump. More recently, he has striven for greater architectural ambition, hiring SOM for the International Gem Tower and KPF for the aborted World Commerce Centre. Meanwhile, notable firms such as Lucian LeGrange and FXFowle have been designing some of his residential projects.

Perhaps no architect has benefited more than Christian de Portzamparc, the French Pritzker Prize winner who had built nothing in the city besides the LVMH headquarters a decade ago, with few buildings to his name elsewhere. Now, Mr. Barnett has become his biggest patron, tapping Mr. de Portzamparc not only for One57 but also for Riverside Center, the five-tower complex that is the final piece of the Riverside South puzzle. Extell won a tough rezoning fight for the project last year.

Now that Mr. Barnett has turned to Goldstein Hill & West Architects, a firm best known for working with Costas Kondylis on some of the city’s blander buildings, for the final Riverside South tower that is not a piece of Mr. de Portzamparc’s plan, it raises the question of what sort of designs New Yorkers can expect at 57th Street and Broadway. Will it be another Pritzker-worthy prize, or has Extell returned to more pedestrian fare?

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Old August 2nd, 2011, 11:39 PM   #67
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Well see. And I'm sure we won't see the design, till the last minute.
Why are they so secretive about their designs?

Don't you need to hand over designs when you want building permits?
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 11:45 PM   #68
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Why are they so secretive about their designs?

Don't you need to hand over designs when you want building permits?
Developers love the drama and marketing buzz from big reveals staged at press conferences. Having their designs leaked out beforehand spoils the effect.
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Old August 3rd, 2011, 05:44 AM   #69
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Why are they so secretive about their designs?

Don't you need to hand over designs when you want building permits?
I'm sure they think if they keep it to themselves, the NIMBY won't have a chance to kill it. Maybe all the need is blueprints for permits, I don't know.
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Old August 7th, 2011, 12:44 PM   #70
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August 6th, Dan Burnett..

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Old August 7th, 2011, 01:03 PM   #71
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Good news. Yet another 300m+ tower is on the way!
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Old August 7th, 2011, 03:21 PM   #72
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Where are the renders?
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Old August 7th, 2011, 03:34 PM   #73
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We're still waiting for renderings of this project and The Drake.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #74
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I walked by on 9 Aug. 2011, and they were busy taking down 217 W57th. Also, a crew was erecting the sidewalk bridge for the demolition of 220 W58th.

Since NYC is sprouting supertalls like weeds these days, I look forward to another one!

More demo docs were filed with the DOB on 8 Aug. and 9 Aug.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Wo...70&requestid=2
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Old August 10th, 2011, 01:13 AM   #75
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Good news. Yet another 300m+ tower is on the way!
So this'll be a supertall? I'd say it should be moved into the proposed supertalls sub forum then
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So this'll be a supertall? I'd say it should be moved into the proposed supertalls sub forum then
It's being built by the developer of One57, and it has a lot more air rights, as of right. Therefore, it should be at least 350m.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 01:44 AM   #77
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Oh boy, if this really turns out to be yet another supertall i Sin City, i'm just gonna do a backflip Nice to see, that NYC still is #1 in the world, when it comes to tall buildings...now and forever. GO NEW YORK!!!

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Old August 10th, 2011, 01:53 AM   #78
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It's being built by the developer of One57, and it has a lot more air rights, as of right. Therefore, it should be at least 350m.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 05:20 AM   #79
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It doesnt mean anything to me until it's actually u/c
And if this is built I will be pumped
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Will get me pumped too!!...I love the skyline and this just added more supertalls the bunch
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