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Old March 1st, 2013, 01:33 AM   #1321
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The tenants are KPF, CT group (a bank) and TV Guide. Is KPF involved in the design of the building?
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Old March 1st, 2013, 01:41 AM   #1322
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Again - it really was a fleeting glance - but to answer the question of why I thought it was 225 West 57th street, it looked to have already incorporated 432 park and One 57. The crown looked to go up at an angle towards the sky. But it certainly looked boxy to me and very tall.

Interestingly I previously saw the Hudson Yards project too before it was announced but didn't realize it at the time until I saw the the plans on SSC. I work at 11 West 42nd Street so the developers must be listed somewhere I hope.
Neither Extell, nor the architect, is based at 11 W 42nd.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 01:42 AM   #1323
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Neither Extell, nor the architect, is based at 11 W 42nd.
One of the tenants, CT, a bank that could be involved in financing the tower? If not, it is probably a KPF project for something else?

The roof going up at an angle reminds me of the HY tower. Isn't KPF involved in that?
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Old March 1st, 2013, 01:42 AM   #1324
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Are you mental?
I suppose for the spatially inept the concept of what is and is not a box may seem "mental".
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Old March 1st, 2013, 01:52 AM   #1325
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It's a box, but for the crown.
Or the base, which was round on the side facing the river, or the trapezoidal setback partway up the tower. It was a nice design, but it wasn't a box.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 02:51 AM   #1326
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By all means wait for a better source - I suppose we will all have to wait. Personally I would rather something something more cylindrical and tall - around mid-town. The lack of corners could really give it land mark status.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 03:08 AM   #1327
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I suppose for the spatially inept the concept of what is and is not a box may seem "mental".
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Old March 1st, 2013, 03:20 AM   #1328
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One of the tenants, CT, a bank that could be involved in financing the tower? If not, it is probably a KPF project for something else?

The roof going up at an angle reminds me of the HY tower. Isn't KPF involved in that?
They are, but that tower's entire eastern facade slopes backward on an incline. Even if this is KPF's project, which still is speculative, It could have been for anywhere. Anyway, KPF also is designing 1 Vanderbilt.
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Old March 1st, 2013, 09:53 AM   #1329
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I will not have my say until you write a post that is legible.
So why did you bother with this if you didn't want to have a say!!
I just wanted to say if there was a design or a plan the developers are fixed with, what's worth with all our posts talking of "that won't happen" like things.. saying the building would look good with this or that....
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Old March 1st, 2013, 10:48 AM   #1330
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This tower has less than half the square ft of 1 WTC.
Are you sure???
So, what does 40000 square feet footprint mean???
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Old March 1st, 2013, 02:37 PM   #1331
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Old March 2nd, 2013, 07:13 AM   #1332
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Are you sure???
So, what does 40000 square feet footprint mean???
Robert Walpole was talking about the total floor area, not the footprint as the base. Their footprint are indeed similar at roughly 40000 square feet, but overall, 1WTC has 3.5 million square feet vs only 1.2 million square feet for 225 w57th.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 05:02 PM   #1333
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Robert Walpole was talking about the total floor area, not the footprint as the base. Their footprint are indeed similar at roughly 40000 square feet, but overall, 1WTC has 3.5 million square feet vs only 1.2 million square feet for 225 w57th.
Oh! Is it because, it's gonna have only 88 floors or it'll taper abruptly as the Nordstrom store wraps up?
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 05:16 PM   #1334
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Oh! Is it because, it's gonna have only 88 floors or it'll taper abruptly as the Nordstrom store wraps up?
That, and the hotel and residential floors will have tall ceilings, probably at least 14+ feet as standard. The Nordstrom store itself will also be very spacious and it might have 20+ foot ceilings.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 09:02 PM   #1335
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Oh! Is it because, it's gonna have only 88 floors or it'll taper abruptly as the Nordstrom store wraps up?
Both. A lower floor count takes a small chunk out of it, and then this one's design tapering dramatically will make a huge difference as well.
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Old March 3rd, 2013, 11:22 PM   #1336
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Oh! Is it because, it's gonna have only 88 floors or it'll taper abruptly as the Nordstrom store wraps up?
1. Tapering
2. Heigh ceilings
3. Nordstrom Store
4. Mechanical floors which are usually taller
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Old March 4th, 2013, 04:59 PM   #1337
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Thanks friends!!!
And I can't really get it out of my head that we're so close now...
Let's hope whatever but the most awesome thing gets built here...
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Old March 4th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #1338
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So many great projects are currently undertaking here in NYC. Development at the WTC complex, Hudson Yards, 57th street corridor and possibly news of rezoning approval in midtown is just awsome. Looking forward to the completion of the skyscraper boom in NYC.

I actually really like the original rendering for this Nordstrom tower but whatever gets built i am sure Adrian Smith will create a master piece.
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Old March 4th, 2013, 06:45 PM   #1339
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Below is a list that I had compiled during my research of some of the exciting projects in our city that are over 300 meters. (I’m sure it has been talked about but here is mine)

One World Trade Center | 1,776 ft
Nordstrom Tower | 1,550 ft
432 Park Ave | 1,400 ft
Two World Trade Center | 1,350 ft
HY North | 1,337 ft
Three World Trade Center | 1,240 ft
15 Penn Plaza | 1,216 ft (I understand this may never happen)
One Manhattan West | 1,216 ft
Girasole | 1,060 ft (could change to 1,500ft)
Verre Tower | 1,050 ft
80 South | 1,018 ft
One57 | 1,005 ft
One HY | 1,004 ft
360 Tenth | est. 1,000 ft

Honorable Mention: (250 - 300 meters)
Four World Trade | 977 ft
Two Manhattan West | 935 ft
30 Park Place | 912 ft
Coach Tower | 895 ft
425 Park Ave | 855 ft
The Corset | 844 ft
56 Leonard | 821 ft

Not too shabby!
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Old March 4th, 2013, 07:14 PM   #1340
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^ For more detailed info, click on my signature "New York Supertalls".
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