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Old November 19th, 2011, 04:41 PM   #241
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Berlin, Alexanderplatz before WWII:
Kaufhaus Tietz (department store)


During the Communists: Centrum Warenhaus (some kind of department store)


since 2007: Galeria Kaufhof (right...a department store)
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Old November 19th, 2011, 04:52 PM   #242
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The Communist one is the best.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 05:00 PM   #243
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^ Best for those with a strange taste I suppose.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 02:53 PM   #244
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I absolutely love the existing structure. Having been, it fits in well with the square, the interior is light and airy and frankly it has a socialist-realist charm about it in its materiality and proportions.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 07:03 PM   #245
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Deutsche Oper Berlin:
1912:


today:


Leipzig Opera:




Berlin Lehrter Bahnhof:


Toady (Berlin Hauptbahnhof = mainstation);
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 09:23 PM   #246
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I have to say, the Berlin Opera is beautiful and the Leipzig one is lovely and well proportioned as well!
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 09:33 PM   #247
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I have to say, the Berlin Opera is beautiful and the Leipzig one is lovely and well proportioned as well!
well...i really hate the "new" building of the "Deutsche Oper"...itīs so ugly...thanks god, weīve some more operas in berlin...i prefer the "Staatsoper unter den Linden" which is under renovation right now... :




the Leipzig Opera is really a nice building, thatīs true...!
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 01:55 AM   #248
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Deutsche Oper Berlin:



THIS building was built in WEST-berlin...so itīs not a communist building !!!
Lehrter Bahnhof was destroyed in WWII, the new one was opened just a few years ago, the ruins were also removed by the democratic west-berlin government...so what...AND...Leipzig Opera, built by the GDR regime is really a nice building, "staatsoper unter den linden" was rebuilt in east-berlin, by the communists (the classic building in #247)...maybe you should move to disney-world...make the dream come true... (btw: i grew up in west-germany...)
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Old November 23rd, 2011, 08:02 PM   #249
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Berlin, Alexanderplatz before WWII:
Kaufhaus Tietz (department store)


During the Communists: Centrum Warenhaus (some kind of department store)


since 2007: Galeria Kaufhof (right...a department store)
The newest one looks the best. Thank god they tore down that 60s monstrosity.
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Old November 24th, 2011, 01:55 PM   #250
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^ It actually wasn't torn down, but they replaced the facade with the current sandstone one and completely refurbished the interior.

It now creates some nice harmony with the pre-war modernist (1932 finished) Berolinahaus and Alexanderhaus at the square (Alexanderplatz).

Refurbished department store (Galeria Kaufhof) to the left, Berolinahaus in the center, Alexanderhaus to the right - seen from Berlin TV tower:


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More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexanderplatz
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Old November 24th, 2011, 03:57 PM   #251
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actually it was more than just refurbishment. they just left the concrete structure and extended the building...
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Old November 25th, 2011, 02:00 PM   #252
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Indeed, but still it ain't a completely new structure, since the old Centrum Warenhaus wasn't really torn down, as user Botswana assumed.
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Old November 25th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #253
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1772, I am tired of cleaning up after you and deleting your anti communist rants. Please stop politicizing so many threads, or you will be given more infractions.
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Old November 28th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #254
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Old November 29th, 2011, 02:25 AM   #255
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The worst replacement ever?

Historical royal town of Pons/Brüx/Most, North Bohemia (1238-1982)
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after:


Stunning. To survive the war and then be lost.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 03:57 PM   #256
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Yeahh someone should told them no to build the city because of the coal underground.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 05:26 PM   #257
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It would be a good idea just to rebuild the completely destroyed Stary Most
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Old November 29th, 2011, 05:55 PM   #258
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Norddeutscher Lloyd building in Bremen/Germany. Built 1907, partly destroyed 1944, ruins removed 1969:



Today... a shopping mall:

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Would be good to see this vile thing blown up in the near future, but problem now is that it could be replaced by something equally hideous going by some recent proposals.
While it's true that some late 19th c buildings went over the top in their decoration, (they were in the minority) they are still far, far preferable to the vast majority of mediocre banality built in the past WW2 era, most of which are not fit for human purpose.
We seem to be entering a new dark age in architecture, hopefully the economic situation will sabotage the more outrageous and hideous plans.
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Old November 29th, 2011, 06:00 PM   #259
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Totally agree to you, but what plans are you talking about?
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Old November 30th, 2011, 04:07 PM   #260
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While it's true that some late 19th c buildings went over the top in their decoration, (they were in the minority) they are still far, far preferable to the vast majority of mediocre banality built in the past WW2 era, most of which are not fit for human purpose.
To the architectural hell with the dictatorship of human scale! We live in the age of speed, awesomeness, amusement and monumentality. An age in which we observe building by driving, flying, riding a high-speed train past them.

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We seem to be entering a new dark age in architecture, hopefully the economic situation will sabotage the more outrageous and hideous plans.
This sounds like environwackos thinking economic crises are cool because they delay projects of new high-speed railways, development, highways, power plants etc.
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