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Old December 14th, 2011, 07:35 AM   #301
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I'm not saying that all buildings should be made to last only 20-50 years, but the majority of common, non-representative buildings. We could devise cheaper construction techniques. Also, more "disposable" buildings can make whole neighborhoods more transitional, allowing total clearance every 4-6 decades.

I can understand the logic of preserving a palace, a monumental building, bu not the logic of freezing a working class are in time. Or a random commercial street/shopping mall. Dynamite should be the expected fate of every building but the most impressive, made and designed by impressive architects.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 02:33 PM   #302
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Belarus, Minsk railway station. 1955 and 2010.

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Old December 19th, 2011, 02:40 PM   #303
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Belarus, Minsk railway station. Again. But not sure it was exactly the same place.

1871 - 1929

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Old December 28th, 2011, 03:42 PM   #304
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ISTANBUL

Tepebasi Theatre got replaced by TRT studios:

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Galata Bridge:

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Ali Paşa Palace:

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Tarabya Hotel:

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This beautiful building at the Galata Bridge got replaced by a white ugly box with no view:

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Old February 9th, 2012, 08:54 PM   #305
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Essen, Germany

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since 1962...
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Old February 9th, 2012, 09:29 PM   #306
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Le Havre -France- After the English bombardement (Sept 1944)
Le Havre -France- Après le bombardement Anglais (Sept 1944)


City Hall/Hotel de ville
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Théatre
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Place de l'Hotel de ville
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Old February 9th, 2012, 11:20 PM   #307
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You can also put the whole city to the thread, Le Havre is one of the world's ugliest cities.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 08:52 AM   #308
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You can also put the whole city to the thread, Le Havre is one of the world's ugliest cities.
True if you've never travelled outside France
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Old February 10th, 2012, 08:55 PM   #309
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I love the modern cityhall of Le Havre. It is even better than the pre WW2 version.
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Old February 11th, 2012, 06:20 PM   #310
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The only magnificent about Le Havre is its modern church, which I consider one of the very best built after WW2.
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Old February 12th, 2012, 03:13 PM   #311
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I dont think Le Havre deserves all this abuse - it is quite nice - great planning, architecture and materials are of high quality. It is one of the better attempts at modernism out there and certainly trumps later attempst such as council estates and concrete monstrosities.
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Old February 13th, 2012, 12:14 AM   #312
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I agree, Perret's architecture as well as his urban planning is WAY better than all the other shit we got at this time. I wonder how modernism would have evolved if the architectural world had followed his kinda classicistic forms and dense urban planning rather than Le Corbusier and his CIAM fellows.
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Old February 13th, 2012, 12:23 AM   #313
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Le Havre is arguably the ugliest city in France, Grenoble runs it a close second, its pre war buildings are badly maintained and most on the outskirts of the city have been replaced by late 60's commie blocks
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I agree, Perret's architecture as well as his urban planning is WAY better than all the other shit we got at this time. I wonder how modernism would have evolved if the architectural world had followed his kinda classicistic forms and dense urban planning rather than Le Corbusier and his CIAM fellows.
In the 50s there was an attempt (at least in the UK) to keep with the architectural tradition of buildings following the street line and having certain amount of decoration (see the link), but the Post-War World needed to be rebuilt and fast, so the modernists suddenly found themselves in demand...

Its a shame that their buildings were not treated as temporary quick fixes but permanent additions. The low cost of such buildings and quick construction times got the better of council planners and this lead to the greatest architectural crimes the World has ever seen...The saddest thing is architecture took a turn for the worse and it does not seem to be wanting to get back on the right track.

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I'm not saying that all buildings should be made to last only 20-50 years, but the majority of common, non-representative buildings. We could devise cheaper construction techniques. Also, more "disposable" buildings can make whole neighborhoods more transitional, allowing total clearance every 4-6 decades.

I can understand the logic of preserving a palace, a monumental building, bu not the logic of freezing a working class are in time. Or a random commercial street/shopping mall. Dynamite should be the expected fate of every building but the most impressive, made and designed by impressive architects.
WHY the hell would you waste the time and the money to rebuild entire neighborhoods every 4-6 decades!?!?! As the old saying goes, if it's not broke, DON'T fix it! Do you even think before you type.
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Hes still stuck in the 60s.
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Old February 14th, 2012, 08:15 PM   #318
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Not only one ore two buildings, not a whole city, Dortmund was the most destroyed city over 400.000 habitans in germany (98.7%) : Ohno:

In the south the central station, left the big white place is the old market and at the right side is the Dortmund U Tower


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Old February 15th, 2012, 01:43 PM   #319
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Sad pictures... very sad =/ Germany paid a high price...
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