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Old February 17th, 2012, 12:56 AM   #321
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^Just like Britain at 7/7 and the US at 9/11.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 01:19 AM   #322
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...at its own request.
If you choose to equate the wishes of an entire people to those of their leaders then you may well be correct. Much like the Russian people requested that the Ukraine be starved in the 1930's, right?

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Old February 17th, 2012, 01:57 AM   #323
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^Just like Britain at 7/7 and the US at 9/11.
You try to be funny or pathetick?

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If you choose to equate the wishes of an entire people to those of their leaders then you may well be correct. Much like the Russian people requested that the Ukraine be starved in the 1930's, right?
Historical knowledge has not killed anyone yet, so you can try
If you want tell me sth just try by priv.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 02:34 AM   #324
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Well, this isn't really the place for this but...

You are aware, are you not, that prior to coming to power the German government of that period had never received a majority of the German vote, only pluralities.

To that I would add, good sir, that had Hitler's campaign promises included any hint of those intentions for which he's best remembered today, he would have done rather worse at the polls.

Then again, I don't think that very many of the Russians who cheered the Tsar's ouster in 1917 were necessarily anticipating Stalin's, shall we say, less noble deeds.

Of course, I could be mistaken in my suppositions.. but I think not.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 01:56 PM   #325
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You try to be funny or pathetick?
No. I am just highlighting the fact that people are often so harsh against Germany when certain western powers today in some ways act the same. Start an illegal war, kill innocent civilians and voila you get your own cities bombed. That is the nature of war.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 04:23 PM   #326
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No. I am just highlighting the fact that people are often so harsh against Germany when certain western powers today in some ways act the same. Start an illegal war, kill innocent civilians and voila you get your own cities bombed. That is the nature of war.
At some points, your right, one most points, I have no words for these....except one thing: go sh*t bricks.....
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Old February 17th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #327
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Well it's the truth. Difficult for some people to handle.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 09:51 PM   #328
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Well it's the truth. Difficult for some people to handle.
Yup...But it also could be your family which was there at 7/7 or 9/11 Think about it Mr Bricks :P
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Old February 18th, 2012, 02:04 AM   #329
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i know this is iran, but the architecture here in the photo shows many similarities,or infact is very european in a sense

tehran's old post headquarters, in the toopkhaneh square, then and now , i dont know how someone in their right mind can do such thing


http://www.ashreshteh.com/?act=galle...gallery&gid=69



http://coarch.ir/post/6

not only is it ugly but so poorly maintained and surrounded with messy streets

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Old February 18th, 2012, 12:18 PM   #330
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSur...eature=related

Making of 3 new houses in the centre of Tangermuende....
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Old February 18th, 2012, 02:10 PM   #331
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Yup...But it also could be your family which was there at 7/7 or 9/11 Think about it Mr Bricks :P
That doesn't really change things now does it? My family could also had been burnt to crisps on the streets of Hamburg when the RAF flattened much of the city.
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Old February 18th, 2012, 04:30 PM   #332
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That doesn't really change things now does it? My family could also had been burnt to crisps on the streets of Hamburg when the RAF flattened much of the city.

Yup thay could be There a thousands of ways to die my friend....

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Old February 18th, 2012, 06:58 PM   #333
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Yup thay could be There a thousands of ways to die my friend....
The ancient Greeks were the last ones to wage war in a truly civilized fashion. In the event of a dispute between two powers, each would select a champion, this is to say the best fighter from within the realm (or the most proficient mercenary from wherever who was available for hire).

The two men would then fight it out... one on one.

To the kingdom whose champion emerged victorious went the spoils.

No fuss no mess.


And then one not so fine day a modernist came along with a "better" idea...
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Old February 18th, 2012, 08:53 PM   #334
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Yup......But this isn't the place to fight out, no place is....okay except some places but my point is: are there any further buildings replaced with other stuff?

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Old February 19th, 2012, 04:24 PM   #335
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i know this is iran, but the architecture here in the photo shows many similarities,or infact is very european in a sense

tehran's old post headquarters, in the toopkhaneh square, then and now , i dont know how someone in their right mind can do such thing

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Oh my, that was truly a magnificent building... why?
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Old March 26th, 2012, 07:56 PM   #336
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Leipzig University is one of the oldest universities in the world and the second-oldest university (by consecutive years of existence) in Germany. The university was founded on December 2, 1409 by Frederick I, Elector of Saxony and his brother William II, Margrave of Meissen, and originally comprised four faculties. Since its inception the university has enjoyed over 600 years of uninterrupted teaching and research.

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By the end of World War II, 60 per cent of the university's buildings and 70 per cent of its books had been destroyed. The German Democratic Republic was created in 1949 and in 1953 the University was renamed by its government the Karl-Marx-University, Leipzig.
In 1968, the partly damaged Augusteum, including Johanneum and Albertinum and the intact Paulinerkirche, were demolished to make way for a redevelopment of the university, carried out between 1973 and 1978.

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After the reunification in 1991, the University was renamed again to its original name University of Leipzig (Alma mater lipsiensis).
The university's buildings in the center of Leipzig underwent substantial reconstruction since 2005; the new university's main building being drafted by Dutch architect Erick van Egeraat. The estimated total cost for the renovation project is 140 million euro and it will be completed this summer.

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Old March 30th, 2012, 10:07 PM   #337
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Stuttgart/Germany marketplace 1881:


almost the same view, today:
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Old March 31st, 2012, 04:40 AM   #338
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Stuttgart/Germany marketplace 1881:


almost the same view, today:
That postwar Stuttgart Marketplace may very well qualify as the ugliest architectural abortion of the 20th Century.

What the hell were they thinking???

They'd have done far better to turn it into a landfill or a junkyard.
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Old March 31st, 2012, 09:48 AM   #339
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actually it was WWII that transformed the marketplace into a junkyard. and after the war they built a fifties style modern marketplace, which was really great at that time...just remember, that almost 70% of the city was destroyed and in the 50s/60s the local government just had the idea to transform the postwar "junkyard" into a modern 50s - 60s city...it´s always the point of view...during that time it was not "modern" to reconstruct..it was a new beginning

but YES...today it´s just damn ugly!
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Old March 31st, 2012, 05:07 PM   #340
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Well at least in Stuttgart they tried to maintain the building footprints, general development envelopes and organization so that the square's new look didn't disrupt the historical layout of streets. Compare to many cities in Poland where buildings were destroyed in the war > commies took over > bam! commie block plopped into a tight, historical space without regard for context.
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