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april boy · July 25th, 2010, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajkenney

Which gov't department controls licensing for VSAT installations? Are there any online links to the forms and/or procedures to get a license?

I'm planning on putting my own broadband link via satellite for a small island resort I live at in Palawan. There is no mobile signals there so, no 3G.

Thanks to anyone who can help!

NTC I think

amigo32 · July 25th, 2010, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajkenney

Which gov't department controls licensing for VSAT installations? Are there any online links to the forms and/or procedures to get a license?

I'm planning on putting my own broadband link via satellite for a small island resort I live at in Palawan. There is no mobile signals there so, no 3G.

Thanks to anyone who can help!

NTC.
But the provider will take care of everything.

Try Ipstar. not sure if Palawan is covered.
Muntik na akong makapag subscribe ng Ipstar, buti na lang na delay pa ang pag dating ng dish nila, kasi hindi maganda ang latency at performance ng sat internet.

I'm gonna be deploying my last mile broadband access in Leyte. I have already tested the equipments here in Manila. So far so good.
First week of August siguro ma install na to.

If you're interested, just PM me.

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Originally Posted by iantidz

Affordable ba yong price ?

Yeah, it's way cheaper than any other wireless solutions.

ajkenney · July 25th, 2010, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigo32

satellite is my last option.

you can use microwave radios to send DSL broadband to remote areas. you can source DSL as far as Cebu province. as long as there's line of sight between the source and the site.

At the moment, satellite is the only option. No line of site to any provider unless i build a tower..... no thanks!!!

Satellite costs, for broadband, have come way down since IPStar started services. Anyway, the resort guests actually pay for it, I just ride along on the connection as the provider to the resort!!

ajkenney · July 25th, 2010, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iantidz

I believe your VSAT provider should take care for that..

Actually, I'm my own provider. I have my own VSAT with an iDirect modem. There are 2 providers out of Hong Kong, Speedcast and ABS, that have quoted me plans and another provider out of Australia, that has quoted me as well. All are close to IPStar but, have a lot better bandwidth and contention rate, for the price!

So, I'll just purchase direct from them, I just need to know the procedure to get the license... Of course, I could just forget the license and go without it.... who's gonna know??

I would like to make it legal.....

iantidz · July 25th, 2010, 05:12 AM

@ajkenney how much bandwidth you need ? There is a new low latency satellite internet sol'n but i think this one is for ISPs.

http://www.o3bnetworks.com/

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajkenney

Actually, I'm my own provider. I have my own VSAT with an iDirect modem. There are 2 providers out of Hong Kong, Speedcast and ABS, that have quoted me plans and another provider out of Australia, that has quoted me as well. All are close to IPStar but, have a lot better bandwidth and contention rate, for the price!

So, I'll just purchase direct from them, I just need to know the procedure to get the license... Of course, I could just forget the license and go without it.... who's gonna know??

I would like to make it legal.....

amigo32 · July 25th, 2010, 07:13 AM

how low is that?

ajkenney · July 25th, 2010, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iantidz

@ajkenney how much bandwidth you need ? There is a new low latency satellite internet sol'n but i think this one is for ISPs.

http://www.o3bnetworks.com/

Actually, this service will be for anyone from ISP's and corporations to individual users but, it's not available yet. The satellites haven't been built or launched yet!

Either way, I still would like to make it all legal so, I'll have to keep looking for the answer. I'll probably have to visit the NTC to get the answers but, that always means some money into somebody's pocket. Nothing has any value until somebody else wants it!!

iantidz · July 25th, 2010, 03:27 PM

Some of the satellites already been built but the constellation is not yet complete

You should visit the nearest regional NTC office for your concern

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajkenney

Actually, this service will be for anyone from ISP's and corporations to individual users but, it's not available yet. The satellites haven't been built or launched yet!

Either way, I still would like to make it all legal so, I'll have to keep looking for the answer. I'll probably have to visit the NTC to get the answers but, that always means some money into somebody's pocket. Nothing has any value until somebody else wants it!!

iantidz · July 25th, 2010, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigo32

how low is that?

120ms roundrip (ground to ground daw same location)

We are a bit (remote) far from the city also, no DSL, cable and other wireless internet service except 3G, luckily still have a decent 3G signal from Smart and Globe 3G and luckily its HSDPA. My problem is I dont have the signal when I get iinside the house, so I bought a 850Mhz to 2100 Mhz omni 6db antenna and place my router/modem outside the house. So far It's been working well...

image hosted on flickr

image hosted on flickr

amigo32 · July 25th, 2010, 04:23 PM

wow, 120ms, that would be a big jump from their current 1000+ms latency

my current setup

I am using a 3G/HSDPA pico repeater. Cellsite distance is 7km non line of site. You can see this inside malls, parking areas, basement etc... It's a bit pricey though.

No signal without this repeater.

Soon to be replaced with microwave radios.

iantidz · July 25th, 2010, 04:25 PM

wow, saan kaba located pre ? ehehehe

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigo32

my current setup

I am using a 3G/HSDPA pico repeater. Cellsite distance is 7km non line of site. You can see this inside malls, parking areas, basement etc... It's a bit pricey though.

No signal without this repeater.

Soon to be replaced with microwave radios.

amigo32 · July 25th, 2010, 04:32 PM

I have a small biz here in Manila but my wireless projects will be in Leyte.

iantidz · July 25th, 2010, 04:41 PM

Share naman some photos soon of your installation

I can remember googling those equipment before and you are right those were expensive

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigo32

I have a small biz here in Manila but my wireless projects will be in Leyte.

amigo32 · July 25th, 2010, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iantidz

Share naman some photos soon of your installation

I can remember googling those equipment before and you are right those were expensive

del.

post ko mamaya, uwi muna ng bahay. hehehe

Nanflexal · July 26th, 2010, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajkenney

Which gov't department controls licensing for VSAT installations? Are there any online links to the forms and/or procedures to get a license?

I'm planning on putting my own broadband link via satellite for a small island resort I live at in Palawan. There is no mobile signals there so, no 3G.

Thanks to anyone who can help!

you don't have to.

VSAT provider in the philippines is licensed to offer their service.

i have my own project too. my original plan is to use VSAT but VSAT installation is very expensive and latency issue. so i decided to negotiate business grade DSL from digitel in Bulan but we'll need build two tower to transport the signal but still cheaper than VSAT and we can run online games without latency issue.

you can visit our website: http://www.adamos.org

Nanflexal · July 26th, 2010, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajkenney

Actually, I'm my own provider. I have my own VSAT with an iDirect modem. There are 2 providers out of Hong Kong, Speedcast and ABS, that have quoted me plans and another provider out of Australia, that has quoted me as well. All are close to IPStar but, have a lot better bandwidth and contention rate, for the price!

So, I'll just purchase direct from them, I just need to know the procedure to get the license... Of course, I could just forget the license and go without it.... who's gonna know??

I would like to make it legal.....

what kind of license do you need?

license to become legal WISP (Wireless Internet Service Provider) if so, you don't have to acquire does license because when you become WISP, it just a VAS (Value Added Service), just fill-up the VAS form from NTC and pay 30,000.00 every five year to make your WISP legal.

No need for license.

Nanflexal · July 26th, 2010, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by amigo32

puede mag patayo ng mura lang na tower? nag pa quote ako, ang mahal. milyons din pala gagastusin doon

kaya sa bundok ko na lang lagay yung radio ko.

maraming klasi ng tower.

pwedi steel pole.

in my case, Steel Pole ipapagawa ko para hindi masyado mabigat sa bulsa. marami akong tower design, let me know your budget for tower construction.

Igsuonnimo · July 26th, 2010, 08:28 AM

NTC junks VoM bid to extend license

07/26/2010

The National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) has denied the request of VoM (Voice of Manila) Broadcasting Corp. for the extension or renewal of its provisional authority (PA) to install, operate and maintain a wireless cable television system with the use of multi-channel multi-point distribution system.

In a unanimous order signed by NTC Commissioner Gamaliel Cordoba and Deputy Commissioners Jaime Fortes Jr. and Douglas Michael Mallillin, VoM’s motion for extension or renewal of its PA was denied for lack of merit.

“After painstaking examination of the facts and evidence presented, this commission fins no cogent reason to extend the Provisional Authority of VoM since it failed to comply with the terms and conditions of its PA,” the NTC said.

Last Oct. 9, the NTC’s Broadcast Service Division recommeneded that VoM’s motion be dismissed for its failure to implement the terms and conditions for the PA.

VoM’s frequencies are being pursued by shareholder Jaime Zarraga who was recently arrested during one of his court appearances by the National Bureau of Investigation on the strength of 262 arrest warrants issued against him for 759 counts of estafa and illegal recruitment.

“VoM failed to commence its roll-out plan as essentially required in its PA. This fact is bolstered by VoM’s non-submission of its annual reports and its failure to pay the Supervision and Regulation Fees during the duration of its PA,” the NTC noted.

It added that VoM’s failure to construct and install its station within six months from the issuance of its PA “can be construed as VoM’s lack of intent or its incapacity to operate and maintain wireless cable television and radio broadcast with the use of MMDS in the service areas proposed.”

The NTC pointed out that its records show that VoM had only applied for a permit to purchase its transmitter after the expiration of its PA.

“Indubitably, the intention to purchase the needed equipment for its operations is just a mere afterthought on the part of VoM— a belated show of interest in its application,” said the NTC.

VoM was granted an 18-month PA to operate the MMDS system in Metro Manila, Bulacan and Calabarzon but failed to start operations by the time the PA lapsed on Oct. 15, 2004.

The firm claimed hat it failed to start operations because it was still negotiating for the acquisition of the transmitter needed and also blamed currency fluctuations and worldwide recessions and global terrorism which prompted it to take a “wait and see attitude.”

On Aug. 6, 2005, citing the need to keep pace with the rapid development of broadband wireless technologies and to ensure wider access to limited spectrum, the NTC issued a memorandum circular re-allocating several frequency bands, including the frequencies previously assigned to VoM, for a new service called broadband wireless access.

Nanflexal · July 26th, 2010, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amigo32

I have a small biz here in Manila but my wireless projects will be in Leyte.

are you planning the same project?

amigo32 · July 26th, 2010, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iantidz

120ms roundrip (ground to ground daw same location)

We are a bit (remote) far from the city also, no DSL, cable and other wireless internet service except 3G, luckily still have a decent 3G signal from Smart and Globe 3G and luckily its HSDPA. My problem is I dont have the signal when I get iinside the house, so I bought a 850Mhz to 2100 Mhz omni 6db antenna and place my router/modem outside the house. So far It's been working well...

image hosted on flickr

image hosted on flickr

parang ang ganda ng bahay mo ah. hehehe

you're lucky enough, you don't need a pico repeater to get decent HSDPA signal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nanflexal

are you planning the same project?

hopefully, if the first one is a success

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amigo32 99% complete Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boondocks Posts: 3,383 Likes (Received): 247	how low is that? __________________ Sent from my expensive 286 PC on a high-speed dial up internet, running windows 3.11 Video caching helps me save bandwidth VoIP server is now up and running!*

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amigo32 99% complete Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boondocks Posts: 3,383 Likes (Received): 247	wow, 120ms, that would be a big jump from their current 1000+ms latency my current setup I am using a 3G/HSDPA pico repeater. Cellsite distance is 7km non line of site. You can see this inside malls, parking areas, basement etc... It's a bit pricey though. No signal without this repeater. Soon to be replaced with microwave radios. __________________ Sent from my expensive 286 PC on a high-speed dial up internet, running windows 3.11 Video caching helps me save bandwidth VoIP server is now up and running!*

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July 26th, 2010, 08:28 AM	#98
Igsuonnimo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Greater Manila Posts: 523 Likes (Received): 24	NTC junks VoM bid to extend license 07/26/2010 The National Telecommunications Commission (NTC) has denied the request of VoM (Voice of Manila) Broadcasting Corp. for the extension or renewal of its provisional authority (PA) to install, operate and maintain a wireless cable television system with the use of multi-channel multi-point distribution system. In a unanimous order signed by NTC Commissioner Gamaliel Cordoba and Deputy Commissioners Jaime Fortes Jr. and Douglas Michael Mallillin, VoM’s motion for extension or renewal of its PA was denied for lack of merit. “After painstaking examination of the facts and evidence presented, this commission fins no cogent reason to extend the Provisional Authority of VoM since it failed to comply with the terms and conditions of its PA,” the NTC said. Last Oct. 9, the NTC’s Broadcast Service Division recommeneded that VoM’s motion be dismissed for its failure to implement the terms and conditions for the PA. VoM’s frequencies are being pursued by shareholder Jaime Zarraga who was recently arrested during one of his court appearances by the National Bureau of Investigation on the strength of 262 arrest warrants issued against him for 759 counts of estafa and illegal recruitment. “VoM failed to commence its roll-out plan as essentially required in its PA. This fact is bolstered by VoM’s non-submission of its annual reports and its failure to pay the Supervision and Regulation Fees during the duration of its PA,” the NTC noted. It added that VoM’s failure to construct and install its station within six months from the issuance of its PA “can be construed as VoM’s lack of intent or its incapacity to operate and maintain wireless cable television and radio broadcast with the use of MMDS in the service areas proposed.” The NTC pointed out that its records show that VoM had only applied for a permit to purchase its transmitter after the expiration of its PA. “Indubitably, the intention to purchase the needed equipment for its operations is just a mere afterthought on the part of VoM— a belated show of interest in its application,” said the NTC. VoM was granted an 18-month PA to operate the MMDS system in Metro Manila, Bulacan and Calabarzon but failed to start operations by the time the PA lapsed on Oct. 15, 2004. The firm claimed hat it failed to start operations because it was still negotiating for the acquisition of the transmitter needed and also blamed currency fluctuations and worldwide recessions and global terrorism which prompted it to take a “wait and see attitude.” On Aug. 6, 2005, citing the need to keep pace with the rapid development of broadband wireless technologies and to ensure wider access to limited spectrum, the NTC issued a memorandum circular re-allocating several frequency bands, including the frequencies previously assigned to VoM, for a new service called broadband wireless access.